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The oil from Canada is expotentially cheaper then oil from OPEC because the pipeline would cut the delivery cost to give us huge savings. Of course we pay more at the pump because of Obama's refusal to promote energy and build a pipeline that would employ thousands and save us money at the pump. Can anybody come up with one reason not to dump this anti American president??

 

thats easy ROMNEY

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Killing jobs by not building the oil pipeline.... Kind of like all the Republican governors who refused to accept any federal monies so their states could improve their transportation systems and develop high speed rails? That wouldn't have created construction jobs or anything.

 

 

And what about the Forbes article Okie? That's not substance? And the fact that you quoted Donald Trump on employment numbers is hilarious.

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Killing jobs by not building the oil pipeline.... Kind of like all the Republican governors who refused to accept any federal monies so their states could improve their transportation systems and develop high speed rails? That wouldn't have created construction jobs or anything.

 

 

And what about the Forbes article Okie? That's not substance? And the fact that you quoted Donald Trump on employment numbers is hilarious.

 

California has no money to do that right now (coming from a resident). The estimates kept rising and rising. Plus the central valley is one of the worlds largest agricultural areas, and they would of had to use imminent domain to take away hundreds of miles of farmland along the CA 99 freeway. I could go on about this issue. But the overwhelming number of Californians from the area that this high speed rail project would have affected is not in favor of this project.

 

Oil pipeline was completely different in my opinion. EPA clowns shut that down. Horrible mistake.

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Killing jobs by not building the oil pipeline.... Kind of like all the Republican governors who refused to accept any federal monies so their states could improve their transportation systems and develop high speed rails? That wouldn't have created construction jobs or anything.

 

 

And what about the Forbes article Okie? That's not substance? And the fact that you quoted Donald Trump on employment numbers is hilarious.

 

Actually Dred, it has nothing to do with the Republican governors refusing to take federal monies. Spending federal monies is about to push this country over the cliff of financial annihilation. Thank God for those Republican governors who don't sell their soul for a few bucks.

 

Quoting Donald Trump is hilarious??? Donald Trump makes a lot of fiscal sense. He is a proven winner. He understands the American dream. I choose to listen to people like Donald. I know Obama lies. We both know that.

 

I'm not familiar with the Forbes article. Where do I find it?

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Killing jobs by not building the oil pipeline.... Kind of like all the Republican governors who refused to accept any federal monies so their states could improve their transportation systems and develop high speed rails? That wouldn't have created construction jobs or anything.

 

 

And what about the Forbes article Okie? That's not substance? And the fact that you quoted Donald Trump on employment numbers is hilarious.

 

That Forbes article was written by a left wing nut who got his information from another leftist hack. The link you provided clearly states that the author is the "token lefty." Why is he the token lefty Forbes? Because most economists are fiscal conservatives who realize that Keynesian economics don't work. It's basically watered down socialism. Well, this Rick Ungar guy at Forbes published his commentary http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickungar/2012/05/24/who-is-the-smallest-government-spender-since-eisenhower-would-you-believe-its-barack-obama/ based on this story that is linked to his article http://articles.marketwatch.com/2012-05-22/commentary/31802270_1_spending-federal-budget-drunken-sailor written by Rex Nutting. The premise of the Forbes article is based on this which is completely false. Here is the link that debunks both the commentary on Forbes and the piece on marketwatch. http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/05/24/Obama-Budgethawk

 

Nobody really believes that Obama is a small spender. That's fairy dust.

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Who wants to argue with the facts, or worse, refuse to see them and yet presumes to judge what they refused to see? The author of this movie carefully, and without embellishment reveals and backs up facts that are sobering. If the truth is your conquest, why do you fear carefully substantiated facts?

 

I urge everyone who loves our Country to see this movie. You will see the incontravartable facts that are well documented and whatever side of the fence you are on, you will come away with a keen understanding of Obama's history and his life view. Then his denial of the pipeline, spending us into subservience to our debtors, mandates that illegally usurp congresses power and process and slap us with greater burdens of debt and laws, weakening of our military, funnelling of arms to drug cartels and ?, denial of his circle of closest friends and mentors, absolute irresponsibility, vast secrecy and arrogant absence of accountability with "stimulus" funds, strange coldness and animosity to Israel while coddeling those countries that bully and threaten her, and astounding disrespect for those who build small business, and his encouragement of division and jealousy among races and classes -- well - it all makes sense. In Obamas own words that he thought were off mic to the Russian leader - he promised much more "leverage" after he is re elected. Because of one of his "mandates" which is his self made edict, Catholic institutions like schools and hospitals are being forced to either close or drop their employees insurance rather than violate our conscience. If this is what Obama will do in an election year prior to reelection, what will he do after when he thinks he will have greater "leverage???"

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I urge everyone who loves our Country to see this movie. You will see the incontravartable facts that are well documented and whatever side of the fence you are on, you will come away with a keen understanding of Obama's history and his life view. Then his denial of the pipeline, spending us into subservience to our debtors, mandates that illegally usurp congresses power and process and slap us with greater burdens of debt and laws, weakening of our military, funnelling of arms to drug cartels and ?, denial of his circle of closest friends and mentors, absolute irresponsibility, vast secrecy and arrogant absence of accountability with "stimulus" funds, strange coldness and animosity to Israel while coddeling those countries that bully and threaten her, and astounding disrespect for those who build small business, and his encouragement of division and jealousy among races and classes -- well - it all makes sense. In Obamas own words that he thought were off mic to the Russian leader - he promised much more "leverage" after he is re elected. Because of one of his "mandates" which is his self made edict, Catholic institutions like schools and hospitals are being forced to either close or drop their employees insurance rather than violate our conscience. If this is what Obama will do in an election year prior to reelection, what will he do after when he thinks he will have greater "leverage???"

 

Everyone that sees this movie seems to get an understanding of what Obama is about by learnig where he came from. He is not a true democrat. He is not a true American. His background is very anti American and he is trying to dismantle our country, and doing a pretty good job of it.

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This movie is basically a long-format political commercial to help Mitt Romney and the Republican Party win the 2012 election. It was funded by a small group of very wealthy conservative businessmen… that’s all a superPAC is, but since it’s a movie and not a commercial or robo call they don’t have to file as a SuperPAC.

 

http://www.blareshare.com/politics/irony-2016-movie-obama-you-dont-even-know-him-mitt-romney/

 

 

interesting..the libs should do one on Mitt, how can we know Mitt w/out those returns? What is he hiding? This could actually be a "docu-drama"

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This movie is basically a long-format political commercial to help Mitt Romney and the Republican Party win the 2012 election. It was funded by a small group of very wealthy conservative businessmen… that’s all a superPAC is, but since it’s a movie and not a commercial or robo call they don’t have to file as a SuperPAC.

 

I will see the movie soon.

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This movie is basically a long-format political commercial to help Mitt Romney and the Republican Party win the 2012 election. It was funded by a small group of very wealthy conservative businessmen… that’s all a superPAC is, but since it’s a movie and not a commercial or robo call they don’t have to file as a SuperPAC.

 

 

http://www.blareshare.com/politics/irony-2016-movie-obama-you-dont-even-know-him-mitt-romney/

 

 

interesting..the libs should do one on Mitt, how can we know Mitt w/out those returns? What is he hiding? This could actually be a "docu-drama"

 

It doesn't matter who funded it as long as they have the well being of our country in mind. The movie sticks to facts and that is what is important. It is obvious when you see the movie that it is a good and wholesome attempt to save our country.

 

Of course the liberals are going to attack Mitt Romney on his taxes. Wouldn't you if you had such a pathetic record to run on?? The problem is, the tax returns that have been released show millions of dollars in charitable contributions. On the other hand, the returns by Joe Biden show a pathetic contribution to the poor. Supposedly they are the party that wants to help the poor, but the fruit from the tree is rotten. Jesus taught us how to recognize these scoundrels.

 

Still no substance. NONE...

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Killing jobs by not building the oil pipeline.... Kind of like all the Republican governors who refused to accept any federal monies so their states could improve their transportation systems and develop high speed rails? That wouldn't have created construction jobs or anything.

 

 

And what about the Forbes article Okie? That's not substance? And the fact that you quoted Donald Trump on employment numbers is hilarious.

 

P, I'm not sure if your high speed rail is only refering to passenger travel or freight. I know locally there has been a movement to have a high speed passenger rail from Iowa City to Chicago, of course funded by the Feds. One of the biggest hurdles to the rail has been whether its actually needed and how many would actually use this service to keep it viable. To say the least its been a very difficult sell to us locals.

 

I'm all for upgrading our infrastructure nationwide, especially the rail services. I would be elated to see the major freight lines become more efficient and available for the transporting of goods across the county. This would greatly reduce semi traffic on the roadways, which would help to preserve our major highways, reduce traffic flow, reduce CO2 emmitions, reduce repairs to roads and bridges, and speed up the transport of those goods and services.

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It doesn't matter who funded it as long as they have the well being of our country in mind. The movie sticks to facts and that is what is important. It is obvious when you see the movie that it is a good and wholesome attempt to save our country.

 

Of course the liberals are going to attack Mitt Romney on his taxes. Wouldn't you if you had such a pathetic record to run on?? The problem is, the tax returns that have been released show millions of dollars in charitable contributions. On the other hand, the returns by Joe Biden show a pathetic contribution to the poor. Supposedly they are the party that wants to help the poor, but the fruit from the tree is rotten. Jesus taught us how to recognize these scoundrels.

 

Still no substance. NONE...

 

yeah, not planning on catching this one

 

...and good toss with that first stone, be proud

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Have you SEEN this movie? Whether you are republican, democrat, tea party, or independent, if you are interested in indisputable facts about the identity and agenda of this president, you will find them in the movie. Please don't vote in the dark when the future of our free country depends upon each one of us.

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Have you SEEN this movie? Whether you are republican, democrat, tea party, or independent, if you are interested in indisputable facts about the identity and agenda of this president, you will find them in the movie. Please don't vote in the dark when the future of our free country depends upon each one of us.

 

In the post above I said I did not and do not plan to. I do not think you or Okla have a grasp on "factual" or "indisputable".

 

The filmmaker had an agenda and will not disclose who financed the movie...similar to Romney hiding his taxes.

 

 

 

"I'm not concerned about the very poor, there is a safety net there" -Mitt Romney

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In the post above I said I did not and do not plan to. I do not think you or Okla have a grasp on "factual" or "indisputable".

 

The filmmaker had an agenda and will not disclose who financed the movie...similar to Romney hiding his taxes.

 

 

 

"I'm not concerned about the very poor, there is a safety net there" -Mitt Romney

 

 

Well, obviously Romney is very concerned about the poor as evidenced by his generous contributions to them. Again, the facts are indisputable as they come straight from Obama. Would still like to hear from those who have seen the movie so that your opinion will have some meaning. I know it has grossed about 10 million and people cheer and clap afterwards. It is an awesome movie!!!!:razz:

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In the post above I said I did not and do not plan to. I do not think you or Okla have a grasp on "factual" or "indisputable".

 

The filmmaker had an agenda and will not disclose who financed the movie...similar to Romney hiding his taxes.

 

 

 

"I'm not concerned about the very poor, there is a safety net there" -Mitt Romney

 

Does it matter who financed the movie? Or is it just important that the movies claims can all be substantiated with actual facts?

 

Do you really want to get into funding issues? You don't want to take the conversation there, you'll just look stupid.

 

Your arguments are just like your beloved leaders--- ALL RHETORIC AND NO SUBSTANCE.

 

Grow up and make a big boy argument

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Hey Okie. Can you tell me what's Romneys plans are for America? Or what's a therapy horse is? You know. The one that Romney got a tax write off for around $70,000. Everyone talks about Obamas' influences. What about Ryan and Ann Ryn (sp)? Or the fact that Ryan requires his staff to read it.

 

Here's a good one. Obama "stole" 716 billion from medicare to pay for ACA. The same $716 billion that's in the Romney/Ryan plan. Are they stealing too? Obamas $716 billion comes from the supply side of tje equation. While RR comes from the beneficiary side. And they are gonna use that to pay for the tax cuts for the wealthy.

 

Romney panders to whoevere he's talking to at the moment. Hence all of his flip flops on pretty much all of the major issues.

 

Why can't his plan be scored? Every other plan has been scored. What makes his so special? What about the two wars that Bush started and hadn't paid for? Was the Bush tax cuts paid for? The ones that Ryan rubber stamped. Was he worried about big government then? He bashed the stimulus plan. It won't work and it won't create jobs. But in his letter asking for money. He stated the total opposite. Funny.

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