Vegas Shooting

[LasVegasIrish 0]

But so glad every sheep with a FB/Twitter account will hear of tragedy and run to their accounts so that they can send their "thoughts and prayers". Those thoughts and prayers mean d|ck to those affected.

 

It's essentially a means of saying "hey don't forget about me" in light of this news-monopolizing event....

 

Well, they don't mean dick to me. Someone who knew hundreds of people at the event, someone who was supposed to be there, someone who knows someone who died at the event, someone who knows several others who were wounded at the event.

 

Thoughts and prayers might make you puke, but they mean something to me.

[Jim2Dokes 3]

Well, they don't mean dick to me. Someone who knew hundreds of people at the event, someone who was supposed to be there, someone who knows someone who died at the event, someone who knows several others who were wounded at the event.

 

Thoughts and prayers might make you puke, but they mean something to me.

 

My thoughts are with you Vegas. I am glad you did not go, sad to hear about your friends.

[JTennant 290]

ugh. He used a bump fire stock. If you have a good bolt in your gun, it will fire with no problems. You can hear him trying to manage the stock in the video of the actual shooting. You can hear the rate of fire increase and decrease throughout bursts from the gun. This can be attributed to how he's holding the rifle and body movements during trigger pull. The AR I had was known for having 20,000 rounds fired without any gun-related misfires or jams without ever being cleaned. They're not complicated and prone to failure unless you have a cheap rifle and/or cheap ammo. Usually the only separation between a semi auto rifle and a full auto rifle is a sear and a cutout in the lower. Most bolts that are not bottom of the barrel quality are rated for full auto. He also had multiple rifles in the room. If one were to jam or burn up (which takes a huge volume of constant firing), he could simply pick up another and continue the assault on the crowd below. His main issue would have been dealing with the heat off the rifle vs. something within the rifle failing.

 

There were 2 broken windows in his suite. With circulating air from the vents and the access to open air, I doubt he had an issue with the expelled gasses.

 

Military spec m-16s are far superior in terms of the barrel, gas block, and other internals.. not just a modified bolt but sure he sent thousands of rounds through cabella's grade AR rifles within a few minutes. The gun will

Speed up and slow down and accuracy will change in terms of heat. Like a car's engine you need it to be at operating temp to run efficiently.. running too hot or too cold can damage the parts.

[nickman54 0]

Military spec m-16s are far superior in terms of the barrel, gas block, and other internals.. not just a modified bolt but sure he sent thousands of rounds through cabella's grade AR rifles within a few minutes. The gun will

Speed up and slow down and accuracy will change in terms of heat. Like a car's engine you need it to be at operating temp to run efficiently.. running too hot or too cold can damage the parts.

 

You don't know as much about the platform as you think you know.

[Soko 128]

There are always lots of questions when someone manages to kill 50+ people in a single setting, but introducing the idea that this was somehow an operation orchestrated by someone else ( or an organization) using this idiot as a perch is seriously the dumbest, laziest conjecture I'd expect from a generation who gets its news from social media.

 

He's a psycho. Psychos used to have to rely on household means and old fashioned creativity to accomplish their goals of killing lots of people. They dont anymore. Now psychos can rely on the interwebs to answer their questions about how to inflict mass casualties and how to get away with it. Killers will get better and better at this and we should just get used to it. Ban guns and you will get mass stabbings like they have in China. It doesnt matter. It's not even like there are a lot of questions here: his dad had violent tendencies and virtually everyone who knew this guy said he was a compulsive gambling a$$hole with a possessive streak who routinely threatened his "girlfriend" who worked at the casinos he frequented.

 

Societal tendencies worldwide are breeding lunatics who want their names scattered across mainstream media headlines as their final act...and it's working. ISIS publishes videos because it elicits a response. And if this idiot was alive, Im sure he'd be proud of the ridiculous news coverage this story is getting from the same people who sh|t a brick when a Kardashian land whale is spotted wearing a new bathing suit.

 

Social media has only accomplished linking up stupid people with other stupid people.

 

Reading comprehension is clearly not your forte. You also don't seem to get your news from the actual news where the COPS in Vegas have stated they suspect he had help and actually planned to escape.

 

It's not hard. It was in the original posts before you posted your usual diatribe.

 

Here it is in plain writing for you as I'm sure you are too lazy to do any research on it. Includes actual quotes from the sheriff for your perusal.

 

http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-las-vegas-shooting-live-updates-las-vegas-gunman-may-have-wanted-to-1507165324-htmlstory.html

[corysold 0]

Reading comprehension is clearly not your forte. You also don't seem to get your news from the actual news where the COPS in Vegas have stated they suspect he had help and actually planned to escape.

 

It's not hard. It was in the original posts before you posted your usual diatribe.

 

Here it is in plain writing for you as I'm sure you are too lazy to do any research on it. Includes actual quotes from the sheriff for your perusal.

 

http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-las-vegas-shooting-live-updates-las-vegas-gunman-may-have-wanted-to-1507165324-htmlstory.html

 

Well, that was a few days ago in the beginning stages of the investigation. They've since said they believe he acted alone and had no help.

 

From CNN:

 

Authorities: Paddock acted alone

There was initial speculation that Paddock had outside help in perpetrating the shooting spree, but authorities now say there is nothing to suggest he had assistance.

Law enforcement officials briefed on the investigation told CNN they have seen no indication so far that Paddock had an accomplice or that anyone was aware of his attack planning.

[echo88 74]

Reading comprehension is clearly not your forte. You also don't seem to get your news from the actual news where the COPS in Vegas have stated they suspect he had help and actually planned to escape.

 

It's not hard. It was in the original posts before you posted your usual diatribe.

 

Here it is in plain writing for you as I'm sure you are too lazy to do any research on it. Includes actual quotes from the sheriff for your perusal.

 

http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-las-vegas-shooting-live-updates-las-vegas-gunman-may-have-wanted-to-1507165324-htmlstory.html

 

What else you got? Lol.

[JTennant 290]

You don't know as much about the platform as you think you know.

 

For all intents and purposes, take your AR out to a range and try to run 1500 rounds through it in 10 minutes. Good luck. You're gonna need a new upper. Make sure you have gloves and eye protection BTW

Edited October 6, 2017 by JTennant

[nickman54 0]

For all intents and purposes, take your AR out to a range and try to run 1500 rounds through it in 10 minutes. Good luck. You're gonna need a new upper. Make sure you have gloves and eye protection BTW

 

All of my rifles are mil-spec. Sure a pos dpms oracle wouldn't last long on rapid fire. The guy had DD rifles which are mil spec. Do you really think a colt or FN m4a1 is vastly superior to any other mil spec rifle? (minus the select fire of course)

[JTennant 290]

All of my rifles are mil-spec. Sure a pos dpms oracle wouldn't last long on rapid fire. The guy had DD rifles which are mil spec. Do you really think a colt or FN m4a1 is vastly superior to any other mil spec rifle? (minus the select fire of course)

 

Meh. Not sure. I wouldn't trust my DD. I'm leading you to digress a bit here as he brought several decently built rifles so the lone wolf scenario is plausible, but I wouldn't be surprised if my DD cooked after 1000 bump fired auto rounds in a short amount of time.

 

According to the police, he only had maybe 40k worth of plinkers mods and glass as opposed to full auto weapons that would have been 10-20k/each.

 

I think I'm gonna buy a Tavor X95 FDEe 16.5" tomorrow..

Edited October 6, 2017 by JTennant

[nickman54 0]

Meh. Not sure. I wouldn't trust my DD. I'm leading you to digress a bit here as he brought several decently built rifles so the lone wolf scenario is plausible, but I wouldn't be surprised if my DD cooked after 1000 bump fired auto rounds in a short amount of time.

 

According to the police, he only had maybe 40k worth of plinkers mods and glass as opposed to full auto weapons that would have been 10-20k/each.

 

I think I'm gonna buy a Tavor X95 FDEe 16.5" tomorrow..

 

I'm not trying to be a jerk so please don't take it that way. The only reason full auto stuff cost that much now is limited supply. There hasn't been a transferable machine gun manufactured since 1986. That's why you see them go for so much. Those old pre86 samples are no better in terms of quality of build or metallurgy than what your dd rifle is, in fact your dd probably is better on all fronts other than it doesn't have the happy switch. Definitely get the tavor, my buddy loves his.

[Rocketsan 773]

Never seen a gun save for the ones out cops carry. Never even held one let alone fired one...

[stdntDrvr 12]

Never seen a gun save for the ones out cops carry. Never even held one let alone fired one...

 

You’re missing out!

[Jim2Dokes 3]

I think maybe gun control and gun specs deserve a separate threads. Pretty sure this thread was made by Our fellow brother Vegas to mourn the victims that were close to him.

Edited October 7, 2017 by Jim2Dokes

[Soko 128]

You’re missing out!

 

No. I don't think he is.

[nickman54 0]

I think maybe gun control and gun specs deserve a separate threads. Pretty sure this thread was made by Our fellow brother Vegas to mourn the victims that were close to him.

 

Good call. Prayers to you vegas. I'll bow out on any further comment.

[Domer Dude 0]

Never seen a gun save for the ones out cops carry. Never even held one let alone fired one...

 

You couldn't stop talking about Speedster's gun but I digress.

[AlabamaDuck 0]

Now the guns at bars or while intoxicated we agree with. Iowa has similar laws at least from this little snippet. We can report an individual who is carrying to the sheriff to have their CCW permit revoked. Not totally sure of Nevada's specifics in their laws. But it's their state, their laws.

 

I'm personally not a fan of some high capacity mags, like a 100 round style, but that's my personal preference due to functionality and tendencies to jam. When an object is used as an instrument to assail someone...doesn't that make it an assault weapon? Really dislike the loosy goosey terms used like assault weapons and military type weapons. What's that mean?

 

I wouldn't trust CNN's edited snippet about Nevada's gun laws. I'm certain there's a lot more language in the laws than their wham bam abbreviated version that may clarify some things. Even if there isn't many Americans may feel those laws are sensible.

 

 

Chicago has stringent gun laws on the books and has multiple shooting deaths every week. In most cases the guns were illegal and the shooters, the ones that got caught, did not have a permit.

The enforcement of the laws on the books would help. Teenagers caught with a stolen pistol and get a slap on the wrist, is not enough.

[JTennant 290]

Chicago has stringent gun laws on the books and has multiple shooting deaths every week. In most cases the guns were illegal and the shooters, the ones that got caught, did not have a permit.

The enforcement of the laws on the books would help. Teenagers caught with a stolen pistol and get a slap on the wrist, is not enough.

 

I've always said this.. it's already a felony to be a felon in possession of a firearm, and they just catch and release these guys while the simultaneously tie up vast resources for convicting non violent criminals for weed or vandalism.

 

Mandate a 5/10/Life prison sentence if you're a felon in possession of a firearm for first/second/ third convictions respectively.

[echo88 74]

I've always said this.. it's already a felony to be a felon in possession of a firearm, and they just catch and release these guys while the simultaneously tie up vast resources for convicting non violent criminals for weed or vandalism.

 

Mandate a 5/10/Life prison sentence if you're a felon in possession of a firearm for first/second/ third convictions respectively.

 

That only works when prison serves as an actual deterrent. Our prison system is a joke, offering cable tv, 3 squares a day, and essentially a worry-free existence. Compare that to the situations these guys were in before.

 

It's the same reason government welfare programs don't foster employment and self-sufficiency. It's easier to just let the tax dollars of hard-working, law-abiding Americans be put towards taking care of you.

 

Not sure if you've ever seen videos of the Brazilian prison system, but that is the very definition of a deterrent. Right now we are just paying for criminals to hang out and play board games with their friends and removing any concerns they might've had about where their next paycheck was coming from....

 

Im a fan of letting criminals police themselves behind bars and a supporter of immediate execution for guilty pleas/DNA convictions (one bullet is cheap). Being sentenced to death and asking taxpayers to support their sustenance for 10+ more years is insane. Not even kidding when I say those on death row should be delivered to an island and left to their own.

Edited October 8, 2017 by echo88