Synoptico 334 Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 1 hour ago, coltssb said: I don’t think people are really thinking here. Maybe a Rees wants the job so he can stick it to Kelly every year? Why would you think Rees hates BK? He played and worked for him. He had multiple opportunities to leave prior to BK leaving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Captain 19 373 Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 1 hour ago, cali_domer said: Golden is being rumored to have a wandering eye. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coltssb 1,044 Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 25 minutes ago, Synoptico said: Why would you think Rees hates BK? He played and worked for him. He had multiple opportunities to leave prior to BK leaving. Because he didn’t take the job to go when BK asked him and was willing to pay him more. Maybe not hate. But it’s always nice to stick it to your old boss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcgov12 1,237 Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 2 hours ago, cali_domer said: Golden is being rumored to have a wandering eye. Heard as well. I don’t know that I would call it a wandering eye as much as depending on how the NFL coaching searches go, he is most likely on some lists to get back there. I never saw Golden as a long term d coordinator here…just my opinion, which is relatively worthless. I’ve heard some rumblings that Leonhard from Wisconsin was on the list last year and gave ND a no. I wonder if he would get another call with saying he won’t be back at WI next year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synoptico 334 Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 45 minutes ago, mcgov12 said: Heard as well. I don’t know that I would call it a wandering eye as much as depending on how the NFL coaching searches go, he is most likely on some lists to get back there. I never saw Golden as a long term d coordinator here…just my opinion, which is relatively worthless. I’ve heard some rumblings that Leonhard from Wisconsin was on the list last year and gave ND a no. I wonder if he would get another call with saying he won’t be back at WI next year That would be a great hire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jessemoore97 1,287 Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 4 hours ago, reneg said: I've seen that Carr was made aware Rees may or may not be here when he arrives, but what about some of the other 2024 offensive commits/targets? Cam Williams, Jack Larsen and Aneyas Williams are big ones that come to mind. Rees was the secondary recruiter on all 3 and the primary recruiter for Carr. I think by now every recruit understands a coach or whole staff may not be at a school by the time they arrive on campus. IF Rees or Golden leave, then Freeman will have to find replacements for them. His job is to win. Winning takes care of a lot with recruiting. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcgov12 1,237 Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 I think having to replace Rees (and potentially Golden) will put Freeman front and center with how he fills his staff. This will be huge for him 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soulpatch 149 Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 15 hours ago, Jersey Irish said: Why? You ever see those sideline shots of Saban screaming into his headset? Who do you think is catching his crap? That's right the OC! And they can only take his crap for so long. At ND, Freeman lets Rees run the show on with no interference. It will take guts but he'd be wise to tell Saban "no thanks, I'll pass on the ulcer" and take that salary ND is willing to match and stay put. A coordinator at Rees' level has zero issues with getting reamed out. You don't make it to that level without being around people that are willing to hurt feelings if that's what it takes to succeed. He might enjoy having more latitude and it might be possible that Freeman gives him that, but he won't turn down Saban (or leave him early) because he got yelled at. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian_nd88 89 Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 I would expect to Golden to be looking around. He used to be a head coach so it is unlikely he will be satisfied as a coordinator long term. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian_nd88 89 Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 1 hour ago, mcgov12 said: I think having to replace Rees (and potentially Golden) will put Freeman front and center with how he fills his staff. This will be huge for him It then is truly all Freeman's team. He either shows that he can win or fails. I'm hopeful that he can succeed, including getting good replacements for any coach who leaves. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InLikeFlynn 261 Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 Looks like Rees took the Alabama job...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soulpatch 149 Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 (edited) 16 minutes ago, InLikeFlynn said: Looks like Rees took the Alabama job...... If you're looking for a silver lining, there can be no doubt that ND has graduated from being a "farm system for bottom dweller's of the Big 12" to "a farm system for the top of the SEC" Edited February 3, 2023 by soulpatch 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mcgov12 1,237 Posted February 3, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted February 3, 2023 4 minutes ago, soulpatch said: If you're looking for a silver lining, ND has firmly gone from "farm system for bottom dweller's of the Big 12" to "farm system for the top of the SEC" Yup. Sorry but any ND fan that thinks this is a lateral move is just looking through those shamrock glasses. I’m not upset he’s going, let’s find a great OC. But bama is a giant new step up and challenge for his coaching trajectory 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InLikeFlynn 261 Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 1 minute ago, mcgov12 said: Yup. Sorry but any ND fan that thinks this is a lateral move is just looking through those shamrock glasses. I’m not upset he’s going, let’s find a great OC. But bama is a giant new step up and challenge for his coaching trajectory Agreed. You can't blame him at all. I think someone mentioned this earlier, I think he coaches a year under Saban and gets a HC gig somewhere in 2024. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big23Head 2,279 Posted February 3, 2023 Author Share Posted February 3, 2023 Updated the title, he gone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USAFA03_HUGENDFAN 242 Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 Is it too late for Hartman to ask to transfer elsewhere or stay at Wake? Guessing since he’s enrolled he’s staying regardless but man just when one thought the O was going to be a strong point next season we are back to a huge question mark. How many ‘24 O skill recruits bail now? Glad the whining about Rees being a bad OC has ended at least. On to some other excuse of why the O stinks. Freeman needs to make a very strong hire and fast. Only what a month till spring practice? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasDomer 1,290 Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 Good for him. Next man up! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jessemoore97 1,287 Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 9 minutes ago, USAFA03_HUGENDFAN said: Is it too late for Hartman to ask to transfer elsewhere or stay at Wake? Guessing since he’s enrolled he’s staying regardless but man just when one thought the O was going to be a strong point next season we are back to a huge question mark. How many ‘24 O skill recruits bail now? Glad the whining about Rees being a bad OC has ended at least. On to some other excuse of why the O stinks. Freeman needs to make a very strong hire and fast. Only what a month till spring practice? I would guess that Freeman knew this was a possibility. Hopefully he has a list of people already in mind and has been reaching out gauging interest. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synoptico 334 Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 I believe he could transfer after the spring but he would be set for ND for the spring semester Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4thand1 272 Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 I would have been fine with either outcome of the Rees situation. Frankly, he was going to be gone in the next 1 to 3 years regardless. Might as well be now when ND isn't a legit championship contender for next season. Might be some debate on that but I view best possible outcome for ND in '23 as a playoff berth and not anything more. On the other hand, it continuously stings for ND to lose recruits and coaches anytime one of the top 3 or 4 programs comes calling. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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