I Wish Obama could do a third term

[PJacksonsDred15 110]

I thank God that Domer Domain doesnt get to choose the President.

[hawaiiirish 62]

Odds are Uberhigh that you will get Hillary so I wouldn't worry , she is a horrible candidate who struggled to beat a 74 year old jewish socialist who wasn't even a democrat-------but she has so much money , a 20 year old political machine in every swing state loaded with operatives, a highly sympathetic press----Trump can't seem to go a week without putting his foot in his mouth---so Hillary supporters should be EXTREMELY confident.....

 

That said my best guess of what a H Clinton presidency will give us is ...

 

War, Scandal & Recession--- sometimes what we want is not as helpful as we would hope.

 

aloha's

[VCDomer 68]

I thank God that Domer Domain doesnt get to choose the President.

 

Exactly. Cuz the registered voters in this country don't either. Let's leave it up to the outdated and corrupt delegate system that decides based on who can spend the most or has the better connections through back room handshakes and wink guarantees. Better yet, let's have them battle it out in the Octogon. Last man, Jew, woman, Anglo, Hispanic, Native American, African American, -------------- (Fill in here) standing. But of course the price of entry must be paid first.

Edited August 1, 2016 by VCDomer

[PJacksonsDred15 110]

Odds are Uberhigh that you will get Hillary so I wouldn't worry , she is a horrible candidate who struggled to beat a 74 year old jewish socialist who wasn't even a democrat-------but she has so much money , a 20 year old political machine in every swing state loaded with operatives, a highly sympathetic press----Trump can't seem to go a week without putting his foot in his mouth---so Hillary supporters should be EXTREMELY confident.....

 

That said my best guess of what a H Clinton presidency will give us is ...

 

War, Scandal & Recession--- sometimes what we want is not as helpful as we would hope.

 

aloha's

 

I disagree Hawaii. While I recognize that Hillary is a severely flawed candidate with character issues, I think she is competent and globally recognized and respected. I dont think the country goes backwards. Trump is the unknown candidate who could potentially destabilize the market and the world with his instability and lack of knowledge and experience. He is hated in every country but Russia for a reason.

 

DISCLAIMER: This is not an endorsement for Hillary Clinton, I just think she's the safer pick for me and I don't want to take the risk of a Trump presidency.

Edited August 1, 2016 by PJackson'sDred15

[hawaiiirish 62]

Its a fair assessment PJ , and I get it. But there will be risk to Hillary as well , she is quick on the trigger and very hawkish----challenged by Russia is scary to me ----she pushed for the aggressive Lybia action more then any other , she wants a "no fly zone" in Syria , and loves regime change, war from this Clinton administration is a high risk IMHO. Likely even more so then the neo- isolationist in my view .

 

If this was Biden vs J Bush the risk would be lower on both counts--or for the more ideological Sanders vs Rubio would still be a safer bet.....

 

But it seems we have made our bed as a nation---we either get the Orange is the new Black or we get the predator ex president wandering around the White house while his president wife shows us all how tough she is.....

 

As the old comedian Yakoff Smirnoff used to say---"what a country"!

 

aloha's

[Synoptico 334]

Its a fair assessment PJ , and I get it. But there will be risk to Hillary as well , she is quick on the trigger and very hawkish----challenged by Russia is scary to me ----she pushed for the aggressive Lybia action more then any other , she wants a "no fly zone" in Syria , and loves regime change, war from this Clinton administration is a high risk IMHO. Likely even more so then the neo- isolationist in my view .

 

If this was Biden vs J Bush the risk would be lower on both counts--or for the more ideological Sanders vs Rubio would still be a safer bet.....

 

But it seems we have made our bed as a nation---we either get the Orange is the new Black or we get the predator ex president wandering around the White house while his president wife shows us all how tough she is.....

 

As the old comedian Yakoff Smirnoff used to say---"what a country"!

 

aloha's

 

And Trump isnt?

[Soko 128]

And Trump isnt?

 

I think Trump is actually not well in the head and has, as Mark Cuban put it, 'gone off the reservation and went bat **** crazy'.

[jessemoore97 1,287]

Its a fair assessment PJ , and I get it. But there will be risk to Hillary as well , she is quick on the trigger and very hawkish----challenged by Russia is scary to me ----she pushed for the aggressive Lybia action more then any other , she wants a "no fly zone" in Syria , and loves regime change, war from this Clinton administration is a high risk IMHO. Likely even more so then the neo- isolationist in my view .

 

If this was Biden vs J Bush the risk would be lower on both counts--or for the more ideological Sanders vs Rubio would still be a safer bet.....

 

But it seems we have made our bed as a nation---we either get the Orange is the new Black or we get the predator ex president wandering around the White house while his president wife shows us all how tough she is.....

 

As the old comedian Yakoff Smirnoff used to say---"what a country"!

 

aloha's

 

The Russia dilemma is something the next president is going to have to deal with right out of the gate. Obama has done little when it comes to Putin and Russia, and has probably emboldened Putin more than anything.

[Soko 128]

The Russia dilemma is something the next president is going to have to deal with right out of the gate. Obama has done little when it comes to Putin and Russia, and has probably emboldened Putin more than anything.

 

And Trump is going to do what, tickle his balls? His infatuation and praise for Putin is mind boggling. Remember only last week he encouraged Russia to hack the DNC!!

[nickman54 0]

And Trump is going to do what, tickle his balls? His infatuation and praise for Putin is mind boggling. Remember only last week he encouraged Russia to hack the DNC!!

 

No he didn't. He told them they ought to give the rest of the emails to the fbi. Which in turn made the morons in Hilary's camp admit her emails were a matter of national security. Which is it? Yoga and wedding emails that are no biggie or national security? Lol, he trolled the media and Hillary pretty good.

[VCDomer 68]

And Trump is going to do what, tickle his balls? His infatuation and praise for Putin is mind boggling. Remember only last week he encouraged Russia to hack the DNC!!

 

This is the classic distortion of the facts and what he actually said. It was an epic jab at Hillary' deleted email and the security of her server.

[hawaiiirish 62]

I would refer you to Stephen Cohen, one of our most prominent Russian experts over the last 30 years , he believes Trump is interested in preventing another cold war , while the media seems to have no interest in that. Détente in some fashion with Russia makes for a safer world while confrontation is a risky business.

 

Look Trump is an impulsive character , and clearly undisciplined as a rookie politician but the media is simply OVER THE TOP with their hatred and manipulation of fact.

 

Case in point---yesterday the president tries to soft sell what was obviously RANSOM FOR HOSTAGES--- a violation of US law and a true scandal---Iran /contra the exchange of a few missles for a few hostages plagued the REAGAN administration for its entire run and ruined the careers of Weinburger and North ----this exchange of pallates of cash was clearly a worse offense by any measure, especially for an administration that THREATENED the Folley family for wanting to pay to save their son.

 

YET CNN spent the entire day dwelling on TRUMP who misinterpreted the plane that was returning the hostages for the plane that was delivering the money--an easy mistake since CNN ran the story of the plane delivering 400 million in swiss franks over the video of the plane returning the hostages----

 

The idea that the exchange of money for hostages--the payment of ransom to iran itself took a back seat all day to trump thinking one airplane was the other is absolutely an INCREDULOUS DISPLAY OF IN THE TANK JOURNALISM by CNN and others....

 

I cannot defend many of Trumps meanderings but the coverage -- the anti-trump coverage is NOTHING like I have ever seen in the media before. Its simply ridiculous.

 

aloha's

[Kelly Gruene 26]

I would refer you to Stephen Cohen, one of our most prominent Russian experts over the last 30 years , he believes Trump is interested in preventing another cold war , while the media seems to have no interest in that. Détente in some fashion with Russia makes for a safer world while confrontation is a risky business.

 

Look Trump is an impulsive character , and clearly undisciplined as a rookie politician but the media is simply OVER THE TOP with their hatred and manipulation of fact.

 

Case in point---yesterday the president tries to soft sell what was obviously RANSOM FOR HOSTAGES--- a violation of US law and a true scandal---Iran /contra the exchange of a few missles for a few hostages plagued the REAGAN administration for its entire run and ruined the careers of Weinburger and North ----this exchange of pallates of cash was clearly a worse offense by any measure, especially for an administration that THREATENED the Folley family for wanting to pay to save their son.

 

YET CNN spent the entire day dwelling on TRUMP who misinterpreted the plane that was returning the hostages for the plane that was delivering the money--an easy mistake since CNN ran the story of the plane delivering 400 million in swiss franks over the video of the plane returning the hostages----

 

The idea that the exchange of money for hostages--the payment of ransom to iran itself took a back seat all day to trump thinking one airplane was the other is absolutely an INCREDULOUS DISPLAY OF IN THE TANK JOURNALISM by CNN and others....

 

I cannot defend many of Trumps meanderings but the coverage -- the anti-trump coverage is NOTHING like I have ever seen in the media before. Its simply ridiculous.

 

aloha's

 

It is comically sad that this administration says its just a coincidence that the timing worked out like it did. Just a coincidence that $400,000,000.00 loaded on actual wooden pallets landed in Teheran the same day, almost the same moment, that the hostages were boarded onto an airplane at the same airport to be sent home.

And the media buys it!!!!!!!!!!

O.M.G.

And yet they focus on every little Trump statement.

Crazy. Just crazy.

[AlabamaDuck 0]

I have never heard or read any where that Trump or anyone else, said Hillary or Democrats are better with the economy.

 

The last eight years has been a total disaster for the majority. Hillary just announced that she will raise taxes on the middle class.

[Soko 128]

I have never heard or read any where that Trump or anyone else, said Hillary or Democrats are better with the economy.

 

The last eight years has been a total disaster for the majority. Hillary just announced that she will raise taxes on the middle class.

 

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/aug/05/donald-trump/donald-trump-wrongly-says-hillary-clinton-wants-ra/

[Kelly Gruene 26]

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/aug/05/donald-trump/donald-trump-wrongly-says-hillary-clinton-wants-ra/

 

Interesting that it takes a linguistics expert using a computer program to understand what she actually said.

Kind of reminds me of, "It depends on what the meaning of the word 'is' is". (And I actually thought he was a pretty good President).

 

And, just for once, regardless of party, I would love for candidates to explicitly define what the 'middle class' is. The income range for a family to be defined as middle class seems to have one definition in economics but something quite different in politi-speech. A constantly shifting target.

Edited August 7, 2016 by Kelly Gruene

[Soko 128]

Interesting that it takes a linguistics expert using a computer program to understand what she actually said.

Kind of reminds me of, "It depends on what the meaning of the word 'is' is". (And I actually thought he was a pretty good President).

 

And, just for once, regardless of party, I would love for candidates to explicitly define what the 'middle class' is. The income range for a family to be defined as middle class seems to have one definition in economics but something quite different in politi-speech. A constantly shifting target.

 

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that shouting 'I will raise taxes on the middle class' will lose you an election hence it is highly unlikely that is what was said.

 

However in todays news cycle that is basically irrelevant. It is out there now - Hillary raises taxes on middle class. Facts don't seem to matter these days and he or she who shouts loudest and often can imprint mistruths onto the public's conscience. If I hear one more person cite the 94 million people of of work I might just self combust.

[AlabamaDuck 0]

I LOL every time I see this post.

[AlabamaDuck 0]

By now you have seen the replays of Hillary saying that there will be a tax hike. Trump is going to tax the super rich and cut taxes for everyone else. She said that she is not taxing the rich but is going to tax the middle class. And the idiots in the audience were laughing and clapping.

 

The liberal media tells the truth as often as Hillary.

 

https://www.youtube/watch?fpjuw1yNZxi

Edited August 7, 2016 by AlabamaDuck
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[Soko 128]

By now you have seen the replays of Hillary saying that there will be a tax hike. Trump is going to tax the super rich and cut taxes for everyone else. She said that she is not taxing the rich but is going to tax the middle class. And the idiots in the audience were laughing and clapping.

 

The liberal media tells the truth as often as Hillary.

 

https://www.youtube/watch?fpjuw1yNZxi

 

Case in point.