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Well I was watching those games and I didn't notice as I was watching that any of the cheerleaders were flat. How can you say that?

That was more like a sharp left turn if you ask me.

Anyone else think that JC's comment: "I wouldn't be here if it weren't for CW" was interesting?

Wow! That sounds kinda Goofy to me.

Don't go down that slippery slope.

Walk carefully but gently up to the photo of the gay deer that another poster uses and with your mouse, right-click on that photo and select "properties." When you see the url address, highlight the ENTIRE address and then copy and paste it where you would like it to be seen in your post. At the beginning of the pasted url address, use brackets and type the letters img inside the bracket. At the end of the url address, place the following inside the bracket: /img and your gay deer will show up in your posts. If you drop your mouse, don't bend over to pick it up. Instead, drop down on the floor on your butt and drag yourself to the mouse, pick it up and rise immediately facing the gay deer. Example: gaydeerurl

You make a good case Katzenboyer. Although I think there are two fallacious arguments being made on these boards: First: 1. Charlie Weis came from the NFL where he was successful, 2. Charlie Weis has not been successful at the college level, 3. Ergo, hiring coaches/coordinators from the NFL will result in failure for ND Second: 1. Some college coaches have been successful in smaller programs, 2. Some of these college coaches have also been successful at larger programs, 3. Ergo, ND needs to hire a college coach who is successful at a smaller program in order for it to be successful I'm not saying you are using the second argument. You make many valid points. I just think it is a much more complicated decision than picking someone from a smaller program or not picking someone just because they were successful in the NFL. Someone could argue picking someone who was successful at a smaller program and ND could end up with someone like Jerry Faust who had much success as a high school football coach. On the other hand, someone like Graben could bring ND back to glory for many years to come because there are some examples of successful NFL coaches who carried that success to the college level. To give an example of how complicated this can be, let's look at Ara's history: Ara coached under Woody Hayes at Miami University for one year. The next year he was made head coach and ended his career there with a record of 39-6-1 in five years. Northwestern, licking its chops, hires Ara for eight years where his record was 36-35-1, (not spectacular) but which was actually a good record at Northwestern and he beat ND four times while he coached there. He had no "connection" to ND, not being a graduate there nor was he Roman Catholic, (neither was Rockne who did convert to RC however) but ND hired him anyway in 1964 and his record in 11 years was 170-58-6, taking the Irish to five bowl games and two national championships. Ara's record in his first four years at ND was 33-5-2 and ND was in the top 10 all four years and top five 3 of the 4 years while winning the NC in his 3rd year. Dan Devine was on the short list in 1964 for a job at ND. So Ara did very well in his first coaching position but not so well at Northwestern. If we would have not selected him because of his poor record, well, then history would not have been made. I'm just saying that it's not as simple as having a good W-L record. I would have liked to have been a fly on the wall during the deliberations for choosing a head football coach in 1964 at ND and to have learned why they selected Ara over Devine. What were their criteria for selection and what was it about Ara that impressed them so much? Hey, if we can pick a President with no executive experience, we can pick anybody to be head coach at ND and be successful, right?

I'd bet he felt up a babe who eventually went to ND. Does that count?

I have been simply amazed at CW's ability to learn from losses and make the appropriate adjustments and to inspire and motivate his players to play with excellence, especially after a disappointing loss. Because of these facts, book this: Notre Dame beats Pitt by 21 points. Take it to the bank! Mark this post down and put it up to the front of the message board after the game to show you that I know what I'm talking about as an unapologetic CW supporter! I can't wait to tell you "I told you so."

You mean American fries?

False choice! I would venture to say that if we would have had the right coach this year, we would be undefeated at this point even with a weak defense. We have the studs to get the job done if only we had the right coach who can really provide a decided schematic advantage and not just talk about it. With the wrong coach, we are where we are and we could easily have only one or two wins at this point. Good coaches matter! CW: Doing less with more.

Facts are stubborn things.

Well-coached and disciplined players tend to execute much better than poorly-coached and undisciplined players.

The unofficial top five notre dame coaching prospects http://bleacherreport.com/articles/286923-the-unofficial-top-five-notre-dame-coaching-prospects

Spot-on Katzenboyer!

I'll take a loss to Navy and losing the last few games rather than be this poor sap: Sam and Becky are celebrating their 5th wedding anniversary. Sam says to Becky, "Becky, I was wondering - have you ever cheated on me?" Becky replies, "Oh Sam, why would you ask such a question now? You don't want to ask that question..." "Yes, Becky, I really want to know. Please..." "Well, all right. Yes, 3 times..." "Three? Well, when were they?" he asked. "Well, Sam, remember when you were 22 years old and you really wanted to start the business on your own and no bank would give you a loan? Remember, then one day the bank president himself came over the house and signed the loan papers, no questions asked?" "Oh, Becky, you did that for me! I respect you even more than ever, to do such a thing for me. So, when was number 2?" "Well, Sam, remember when you had that last heart attack and you were needing that very tricky operation, and no surgeon would touch you? Then remember how the doctor came all the way up here, to do the surgery himself, and then you were in good shape again?" "I can't believe it! Becky, you should do such a thing for me, to save my l ife. I couldn't have a more wonderful wife. To do such a thing, you must really love me darling. I couldn't be more moved. So, all right then, when was number 3?" "Well, Sam, remember a few years ago, when you really wanted to be president of the golf club and you were 17 votes short..?"

Clausen got caught in a retaliation shove to the helmet on a Navy guy who was attempting to block JC - if you want to call it that.

CW motto: Doing less with more.

If cows could fly, we'd all have to wear steel helmets.

Jolly good job! Pip-pip old bean!

You can bomb this thread for all I care. Aloha. Go Irish!

I have seen it all too often and have had this crap on me. There is a bunch of low integrity, or simply hating losers that dwell on these sites. Some time they want to simply corrupt the discussion and sometime they want to be fu**ing a**holes. Normally they are just anti ND fans that are pricks! I want to apologize to those who are actually ND fans who just speak negatively – see you guys are the biggest a**holes of all!!! Hawaii and Wave (I apologize to a number of great posters that I left out) have carried this site over the last 10 months. They just can’t be asked to carry the flag in the face of these trends where even excellent sites, like dome domain, are moods from this and other sites have developed week knees in responding to bogus postings designed to destroy the moral of ND fans. Thanks to you warriors ND is rising above/ Thanks to you for your ND spirit and f*** the rest of you slimy, lying bastards! You are either intelligent enough to know how much of a march back to prominence that ND is on, or you are too imbecilic to realize what it takes to make the climb. We have come from nuclear devastation to the verge of greatness. If you cannot enjoy what we have experienced the first five game – f*** You slime buckets!!!!!! You think it is something special to attack the program via messages designed solely to discourage – low lives! You really are pathetic! Go IRISH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Lassie's Master

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I never uttered a negative word about either of them or about CW. Real fans don't criticize. Real fans are real fans win or lose---for better or for worse....we are real fans. Aloha. Go Irish.

Hey, I was right!!!!