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Still kind of waiting to see what unfolds with that other candidate and ties to Russia as well...

 

Just saying call balls and strikes evenly.

 

As of right now I am, only Trumps people are charged by and grand jury with 12 plus counts of federal charges. Did you have some news on the other "candidate", who now is a private citizen btw not a candidate for anything. So even if there was some fire, does it matter? Would you say well they did it too? Promoting treason as long as someone else does it?

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As of right now I am, only Trumps people are charged by and grand jury with 12 plus counts of federal charges. Did you have some news on the other "candidate", who now is a private citizen btw not a candidate for anything. So even if there was some fire, does it matter? Would you say well they did it too? Promoting treason as long as someone else does it?

 

Did you pay attention to the previous few weeks of information that came out about Hillary during her time as SOS and that uranium deal by chance? Or the dossier from Russia about Trump and its background?

 

So because she lost, Hillary and cohorts are exempt from any further investigations into their dealing with Russia or whoever that may also be illegal or treasonous? She was a high ranking member of the government and should be held to the same standards. To me there seems to be a lot more zeal to go after possible wrong doing one direction while ignoring mounting evidence of it the other way that may have occurred much earlier and may have been purposefully glossed over. Both instances need to be vetted.

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Still kind of waiting to see what unfolds with that other candidate and ties to Russia as well...

 

Just saying call balls and strikes evenly.

 

Haha! Still hanging on to that BS Russia narrative put out by the Democrats to distract from the fact that they literally gave Russia uranium for their own personal benefit so that Russia can make nukes to be used against us... Keep it up! I mean, first you guys start with Russians hacking ballots, insinuating they changed votes. Then, it moved to oh, Russian disinformation made the American public hate Hillary...not the fact that she sucks and anybody could've beaten her, especially when she was up against 8 years of an ineffective Obama presidency. Now, it's - there's a connection! Trump's buddies personally benefited from a relationship with Ukraine! Trump's guilty! Guilty of F'ing what? I know it's hard to imagine, because Trump is insufferable, but Hillary was even worse though she was less offensive publicly. At least Trump is returning sovereignty to this nation and getting rid of all of the bogus regulations that have held our economy back. If Dems would ever learn that getting away from over regulating businesses and the economy means a boom, they could rule forever. But, no, they insist on that socialist baloney which kills the economy and forces a lot of people onto the government dime who actually would rather make their own money. Dems also need to get away from the BS conspiratorial racial narrative. You know what? Whether you theoretically think minorities can't be racist or not, white people make up 70% of this country and don't like it when you discriminate against them based solely on skin color. Reasonable minorities recognize the hypocrisy as well, just as reasonable white people hate when there is discrimination against minorities. When you push these conspiracies that turn literally everything racist, there ultimately becomes push back, because reasonable people see through it. An Elsa costume is racist? A Moana costume is racist? That's not the world anybody wants to live in. We also don't want open borders, because nations are sovereign for a reason - to protect the values of the nation. Democrats love open borders and love to yell Xenophobia which is a term invented by those who want to subvert a nation's sovereign claims. The first people to b*tch when we have to go to war always scream about the target nation's sovereignty...yet, here, it's taboo for the same liberal who's screaming about it on the international front. The Democratic party is laden with hypocrisy which was exposed in the last election, but Russians didn't convince anybody that Hillary sucks. Hillary did that herself by being exposed for decades to the public and Obama contributed by stagnating our economy and doing nothing but stoking racial tension and division. Every moment that started a riot or race issue during Obama's tenure was disproven by the facts, except maybe one incident. Ferguson Hands up don't shoot was a proven lie by people who were there (read the grand jury testimony). Baltimore - all five officers acquitted. Harvard police incident involved black officers. Charlotte - shot by a black officer after refusing to put down a hand gun. And, the biggest issue with all of it aside from the actual facts being so contrary to the narrative, is the utter destruction that unnecessarily followed each of the events.

 

As a "Trump person," even though I think it is much more accurate to say somebody who has a little more tolerance for him than necessarily associating with him (I actually had a discussion with my daughter the night of the election how neither candidate was ideal - Hillary was bad and Trump was less bad), this is what motivated us to vote for Trump over Hillary:

 

Hillary is a lying hypocrite who victim shames sexual assault victims of her husband;

Hillary would continue open borders and lack of national security;

Hillary would sell every asset this country has for her own personal benefit through the Clinton Foundation;

Hillary uranium deal;

IRS targeting conservatives/tea party;

Incompetence militarily - Benghazi/ISIS/Syrian red line;

We would continue to excuse race riots and demean police officers;

We would continue depressing the economy which kills jobs and kills wage competition by putting all the power in corporations who aren't subject to competition since they're the only ones who could survive in a depressed economy;

Dependence on government would continue;

Dishonest and non-objective research/narrative regarding global warming would continue;

We would keep struggling with energy independence;

We would continue giving jobs away to other countries without getting anything in return except for low prices for those who can afford to buy anything;

We would continue getting sanctuary cities and claims that deporting illegal immigrants is racist (not immigrants...funny how democrat liberal arts majors who are supposed to be good at English drop that modifier "illegal" and insinuate that "all" immigrants are being targeted) enforcing the law restores sovereignty;

We would vet new immigrants rather than randomly trying to change voting demographics by placing unvetted immigrants everywhere;

We would continue with social experiments in the military rather than letting the military focus on defending our country;

We would continue with the growing government so all of the liberal cronies can give their buddies jobs and give each other pay raises, deals, and other corrupt benefits...

 

The list goes on of all the things we hated about Hillary and Obama. Ordinary people just want to work to feed their families, have pride in the country, not be discriminated against based on race or any other reason, and to know that the country is protected from outside forces.

 

Btw, I know you're going to delve into the baloney about "pride in country" and race that is being kneeled about in the NFL. Again, look at the facts. The narratives have been disproven by actual facts and the fact that more minorities are incarcerated does not make the point that the system is broken. It makes the point that certain civil values are missing amongst the groups which results in the incarceration which makes complete logical sense when you see the numbers of broken families, dense population, and drugs. You simply can't raise a significant population of youths who are socially conscious when you have those issues - surrounded by crime and drugs as well as no family system to pass down lessons learned by parents, let alone have the support necessary to make education a priority or sustain proper schools. It's not about money either, because putting rural American side by side with inner city America who are equally impoverished and with rural America getting substantially less federal funding, the statistics are night and day. It really comes down to the family structure. There is a lot of meth and heroine in the rural areas and those folks are incarcerated just the same and their kids/families are just as bad...it's just not as prevalent and the difference seems to be having fewer broken families proportionally. Further, looking at other minority communities who have historically been discriminated against destroys the race narrative as well. Asians and Indians (from India) are disproportionately successful. They make up less than 2% of the population in this country, yet inhabit a large proportion of medical schools and business schools compared to their 2% demographic. How can this be so if they've been so discriminated against and live in their own urban communities oftentimes? Again, it has to be the family unit or some other medium for passing down the lessons learned from the past and the values that come from that. Either way, it destroys the narrative pushed by liberals and Democrats about race. Some morons will argue that Asians are basically white, which is just ridiculous...

 

So all of that said....that's why Trump was elected even though the guy acts like douche. It has NOTHING to do with Russians. Actually, it does.... We were really pissed about Hillary's uranium deal.

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Did you pay attention to the previous few weeks of information that came out about Hillary during her time as SOS and that uranium deal by chance? Or the dossier from Russia about Trump and its background?

 

So because she lost, Hillary and cohorts are exempt from any further investigations into their dealing with Russia or whoever that may also be illegal or treasonous? She was a high ranking member of the government and should be held to the same standards. To me there seems to be a lot more zeal to go after possible wrong doing one direction while ignoring mounting evidence of it the other way that may have occurred much earlier and may have been purposefully glossed over. Both instances need to be vetted.

 

If she broke the law she should be held accountable as any other citizen. But what information do you have about the uranium deal? You realize there is no evidence she had anything to do with it right? http://www.factcheck.org/2017/10/facts-uranium-one/

 

So youre talking about fiction, while the fact remains that 3 trump high level associates are charged with felonies. Not conspiracy theories, facts. Charged by a grand jury. Not even Jeff Sessions is investigating Clinton. Trump will be glad to see you fell for the smoke screen though.

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If she broke the law she should be held accountable as any other citizen. But what information do you have about the uranium deal? You realize there is no evidence she had anything to do with it right? http://www.factcheck.org/2017/10/facts-uranium-one/

 

So youre talking about fiction, while the fact remains that 3 trump high level associates are charged with felonies.

 

Aaaahahahaha...you're so naive... "She'd be held accountable like any other citizen..." You do know that her email server alone should have gotten her time, infiltrated or not. Most citizens are prosecuted for such gross negligence of confidential info. I see the IRS was held accountable too.... Dude, Democrats are dirty.

 

To your other point, I don't see Trump involved in anything those associates were charged with... Learn the law. Go to law school if you need to, but if you read the indictments, there's nothing related to Trump in there. But leave it to a liberal to make up sh*t that fits his own narrative without looking at facts.

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Aaaahahahaha...you're so naive... "She'd be held accountable like any other citizen..." You do know that her email server alone should have gotten her time, infiltrated or not. Most citizens are prosecuted for such gross negligence of confidential info. I see the IRS was held accountable too.... Dude, Democrats are dirty.

 

To your other point, I don't see Trump involved in anything those associates were charged with... Learn the law. Go to law school if you need to, but if you read the indictments, there's nothing related to Trump in there. But leave it to a liberal to make up sh*t that fits his own narrative without looking at facts.

 

Uhm maybe you should go back to law school, youre the one making accusations about the uranium deal without and indictment or charges. I never said Trump was in the indictments. I said 3 high level Trump associates are charged with felonies. All your post are filled with bs and no facts it's just your opinion. I am not making anything up, look in the mirror.

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If she broke the law she should be held accountable as any other citizen. But what information do you have about the uranium deal? You realize there is no evidence she had anything to do with it right? http://www.factcheck.org/2017/10/facts-uranium-one/

 

So youre talking about fiction, while the fact remains that 3 trump high level associates are charged with felonies. Not conspiracy theories, facts. Charged by a grand jury. Not even Jeff Sessions is investigating Clinton. Trump will be glad to see you fell for the smoke screen though.

 

You understand that this investigation is turning up names for the other side too right? Leon Panetta(sp) said he predicts that parties from both sides of the aisle may be implicated and more indictments may be coming down the pipe. The Podestas, who are very closely tied with the Clintons, specifically Tony is in the indictment paperwork against Manifort along with the Podesta's company in dealings with Ukraine.

 

If Trump is smart and let's this play out, it could back his message and the general feeling the people have of the swamp that is D.C. politics. Manifort was someone who was recommended to his campaign by the RNC. He clearly has worked with and connects to powerful figures from the other side too. These SOB's are all in bed together working to keep the power and money within their corrupt circles. How and why any sane person believes Washington needs more power, money, and influence to control is beyond me.

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You understand that this investigation is turning up names for the other side too right? Leon Panetta(sp) said he predicts that parties from both sides of the aisle may be implicated and more indictments may be coming down the pipe. The Podestas, who are very closely tied with the Clintons, specifically Tony is in the indictment paperwork against Manifort along with the Podesta's company in dealings with Ukraine.

 

If Trump is smart and let's this play out, it could back his message and the general feeling the people have of the swamp that is D.C. politics. Manifort was someone who was recommended to his campaign by the RNC. He clearly has worked with and connects to powerful figures from the other side too. These SOB's are all in bed together working to keep the power and money within their corrupt circles. How and why any sane person believes Washington needs more power, money, and influence to control is beyond me.

 

Trump never lets anything play out so expect many more outbursts before this is over. The long game is not his friend.

 

Paul Manafort was his campaign manager and involved in all sorts of nefarious activities. The optics are terrible regardless of any collusions charges. It's become very clear that many members of his campaign and family were more than open to Russian help and it'll be interesting to this plays out. The noose is tightening and if people start to talk then he won't see out his term.

 

If this finally ends lobbying on both sides of the aisle with several lengthy jail sentences then hip hip hooray. I have no sympathy for any of them and I wish this would also include all gun, pharma, energy etc... lobbyists who poison politics. Ban them all from lobbying, everywhere, all the time.

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You understand that this investigation is turning up names for the other side too right? Leon Panetta(sp) said he predicts that parties from both sides of the aisle may be implicated and more indictments may be coming down the pipe. The Podestas, who are very closely tied with the Clintons, specifically Tony is in the indictment paperwork against Manifort along with the Podesta's company in dealings with Ukraine.

 

If Trump is smart and let's this play out, it could back his message and the general feeling the people have of the swamp that is D.C. politics. Manifort was someone who was recommended to his campaign by the RNC. He clearly has worked with and connects to powerful figures from the other side too. These SOB's are all in bed together working to keep the power and money within their corrupt circles. How and why any sane person believes Washington needs more power, money, and influence to control is beyond me.

 

I thought we were talking about Uranium. And right, yeah it's the big swamp not Trumps fault blah blah. He never said "I hire the best people". You can keep defending the least effective and least popular president ever. There were people that supported Nixon too after his scandals. But I am not going to continue to dive into your speculations, you brought up Uranium, it's clear who your sources are, also clear you are just spilling white house talking points, and I am not going to waste my time. I could just go gouge my eyes out watching Sarah Sanders press briefing.

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I thought we were talking about Uranium. And right, yeah it's the big swamp not Trumps fault blah blah. He never said "I hire the best people". You can keep defending the least effective and least popular president ever. There were people that supported Nixon too after his scandals. But I am not going to continue to dive into your speculations, you brought up Uranium, it's clear who your sources are, also clear you are just spilling white house talking points, and I am not going to waste my time. I could just go gouge my eyes out watching Sarah Sanders press briefing.

 

Have you read my posts at all? Seriously I mentioned more than the Uranium situation, which may not be fully investigated and it maybe never will be, I don't know since I have zero control of it.

 

How have I defended Trump? I firmly believe he was one of the worst candidates ever, but Hill was just as bad. The double standard is deafening though when it comes to eerily similar activity the DNC was engaged in with Russia and the Trump dossier. If you can't admit that you're a hypocrite.

 

I have no idea how you think I get my news etc, since I haven't posted any one way or another. BTW many of those "fact check" sites are biased and do get a fair amount of info wrong or will very begrudgingly admit to it after they're called on it FWIW. Call balls and strikes is all you can do man. The truth still matters above everything else.

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Have you read my posts at all? Seriously I mentioned more than the Uranium situation, which may not be fully investigated and it maybe never will be, I don't know since I have zero control of it.

 

How have I defended Trump? I firmly believe he was one of the worst candidates ever, but Hill was just as bad. The double standard is deafening though when it comes to eerily similar activity the DNC was engaged in with Russia and the Trump dossier. If you can't admit that you're a hypocrite.

 

I have no idea how you think I get my news etc, since I haven't posted any one way or another. BTW many of those "fact check" sites are biased and do get a fair amount of info wrong or will very begrudgingly admit to it after they're called on it FWIW. Call balls and strikes is all you can do man. The truth still matters above everything else.

 

You have defended trump by falling for the narrative the far-right has setup for you to distract from 3 high level Trump croanies being indicted. You don't believe fact check websites that do actual research, but will believe what the White House, who has proven to lie daily, in that there needs to be more investigation into Clinton and the DNC. DNC has not denied funding the dossier btw. It is a non-issue. Why should anyone care about the dnc paying a US based research firm for Russia dirt on Trump? The dossier was first funded by a conservative news outlet btw The Uranium deal was debunked years ago, its from 2010 man, all of sudden it's now an issue. The repubs have had 7 years to investigate that deal, and there was really no deal Russia never got any Uranium from the US. This information is out there and not hard to find if you are not watching Hannity or clicking through breitbart, that's why I mentioned your sources. Only hard right loonies are peddling this bs.

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