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Exactly. Johnson sucks. He'd get alot done with a rep or dem congress. He'd struggle to get a scotus candidate through before his term ends.

 

The biggest loser to me appears to be the republicans. Trump ain't going nowhere if he loses. He'll give speeches and right books and will do what glen beck and sarah palin couldn't, create a cable network to rival fox and divide the party imo.

 

I would suggest that people follow the wikileaks dumps that are going on right now. The emails are downright damning for the democrat party. They show media collusion between the clinton camp and the MSM. If i were a Bernie supporter i would be pissed.

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I would suggest that people follow the wikileaks dumps that are going on right now. The emails are downright damning for the democrat party. They show media collusion between the clinton camp and the MSM. If i were a Bernie supporter i would be pissed.

I agree but they wont catch on cause it wont grab the attention of most americans because in this country sex sells and the audio of trump and billy bush is a much sexier story line.

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I would suggest that people follow the wikileaks dumps that are going on right now. The emails are downright damning for the democrat party. They show media collusion between the clinton camp and the MSM. If i were a Bernie supporter i would be pissed.

 

Seems like the only place I see anything reported is on Facebook posts. ABC, CBS, NBC, and CNN can't get enough of Trump and sexual implications, but report on something that's really important to this country? Nah, too much work. They just seem to go for the tabloid headlines, not the meaty stories.

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Seems like the only place I see anything reported is on Facebook posts. ABC, CBS, NBC, and CNN can't get enough of Trump and sexual implications, but report on something that's really important to this country? Nah, too much work. They just seem to go for the tabloid headlines, not the meaty stories.

 

Fully agree. The media is as much at fault for a lot of this mess as the politicians.

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Fully agree. The media is as much at fault for a lot of this mess as the politicians.

 

Media is a business and they cater to the people. It sucks, but the reason we are in this political mess is because many (A big many) Americans are essentially Kardashian watching drooling idiots.That is why the news stopped being informative and started being "entertaining". Even informational websites are filled with little more than a running tape of morbid reports about death, violence, racism, and political mudslinging.

 

The truth is anyone looking to make an educated choice this November has the resources to get good information and make an informed choice, sadly most people won't. Most people who will pick whoever the popular candidate is at the time, whoever is "in the lead" so they can feel like they are on the winning team.

 

I love America, my family has been fighting for this country since World War II, it really does pain me to see what it has come to. So many lives lost so we can put a freaking Muppet into office. And not even one of the good Muppets. SMH

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Fully agree. The media is as much at fault for a lot of this mess as the politicians.

 

Yeah, but we feed the beast. Americas new hobby is being angry. We love to be angry. I see these talking heads on TV and I know if we all truly came together a lot of people would lose money. We can gripe about it but it's us. don't blame the drug dealer for selling you crack to smoke.

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Media is a business and they cater to the people. It sucks, but the reason we are in this political mess is because many (A big many) Americans are essentially Kardashian watching drooling idiots.That is why the news stopped being informative and started being "entertaining". Even informational websites are filled with little more than a running tape of morbid reports about death, violence, racism, and political mudslinging.

 

The truth is anyone looking to make an educated choice this November has the resources to get good information and make an informed choice, sadly most people won't. Most people who will pick whoever the popular candidate is at the time, whoever is "in the lead" so they can feel like they are on the winning team.

 

I love America, my family has been fighting for this country since World War II, it really does pain me to see what it has come to. So many lives lost so we can put a freaking Muppet into office. And not even one of the good Muppets. SMH

 

I truly hope this election is finally the bottom but I'm thinking we just set the tone for the future. I'd be curious to see how election coverage ratings are doing this year.

 

What also baffles me is how a Dem and a Rep can talk one on one and agree on a lot of things or at least compromise.

 

It's gotten so predictable. The media knows exactly what to report to get a reaction. Thanks hashtags

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Media is a business and they cater to the people. It has sucks, but the reason we are in this political mess is because many (A big many) Americans are essentially Kardashian watching drooling idiots.That is why the news stopped being informative and started being "entertaining". Even informational websites are filled with little more than a running tape of morbid reports about death, violence, racism, and political mudslinging.

 

The truth is anyone looking to make an educated choice this November has the resources to get good information and make an informed choice, sadly most people won't. Most people who will pick whoever the popular candidate is at the time, whoever is "in the lead" so they can feel like they are on the winning team.

 

I love America, my family has been fighting for this country since World War II, it really does pain me to see what it has come to. So many lives lost so we can put a freaking Muppet into office. And not even one of the good Muppets. SMH

 

To some extent I agree. The media is supposed to be the watch dog of the .gov and work to show corruption. At some point the media got together and decided the better paychecks and kickbacks come from the government tit and began to shill for them.

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To some extent I agree. The media is supposed to be the watch dog of the .gov and work to show corruption. At some point the media got together and decided the better paychecks and kickbacks come from the government tit and began to shill for them.

 

That's part of the problem. Another problem is no one wants to be told that they are wrong. Now we all have places to tell us what we want to hear. An objective news outlet could not get ratings and would still be accused of being biased.

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I truly hope this election is finally the bottom but I'm thinking we just set the tone for the future. I'd be curious to see how election coverage ratings are doing this year.

 

What also baffles me is how a Dem and a Rep can talk one on one and agree on a lot of things or at least compromise.

 

It's gotten so predictable. The media knows exactly what to report to get a reaction. Thanks hashtags

 

Democrats and Republicans are essentially the same thing at this point. Neither is willing to induce any worthwhile change, they want to maintain the status quo, which is the cycle of pass a bill, veto a bill, tie it up in congress, promise to repeal, collect fat paycheck, repeat. So much time and money is spent infighting and why change it and put yourself out of a job? The only change I see coming has to be initiated by someone outside of those two bloated gluttonous diseased parties. Politics are wholly corrupt and worthless, just another mad cash grab. Trump might come in and change "business as usual" but at what cost? Most people are comfortable and after the election is over I am afraid that business as usual is going to resume and no one will give a crap about having a turd in the White House until 4 more years have passed.

 

Unfreakingbelievable.

 

To some extent I agree. The media is supposed to be the watch dog of the .gov and work to show corruption. At some point the media got together and decided the better paychecks and kickbacks come from the government tit and began to shill for them.

 

There is a tremendous amount of collusion that goes on and it renders the majority of mainstream media useless. Most news outlets are owned one way or the other and just can't report anything that is not completely biased. Most of the Hollywood is ultra left so around election time you see nothing but an endless stream of anti-right garbage. I can't watch SNL on an election year because it is impossible to see humor amidst so much agenda.

 

It would be simple to say the media caters to the government, but which government?

 

In the end I am obviously a fairly far right conservative and up until lately I self identified (haha) as a Republican, but I just can't accept the party actions anymore, they don't line up with traditional GOP party values. Damned if this election and ND football aren't awful parallels right now. If BK wins 6 or 7 games we are in for another ho hum year, whoever wins the White House, we are in for the same.

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Democrats and Republicans are essentially the same thing at this point. Neither is willing to induce any worthwhile change, they want to maintain the status quo, which is the cycle of pass a bill, veto a bill, tie it up in congress, promise to repeal, collect fat paycheck, repeat. So much time and money is spent infighting and why change it and put yourself out of a job? The only change I see coming has to be initiated by someone outside of those two bloated gluttonous diseased parties. Politics are wholly corrupt and worthless, just another mad cash grab. Trump might come in and change "business as usual" but at what cost? Most people are comfortable and after the election is over I am afraid that business as usual is going to resume and no one will give a crap about having a turd in the White House until 4 more years have passed.

 

Unfreakingbelievable..

 

I think a lot of it has to do with just winning. Who cares who the president is as long as they sport your color.

 

I agree nothings gonna change in Washington that's why I just want to scream at my republican friends and tell them to calm DF down. The world is not gonna end if you don't get what you want. Obamas getting ready to finish his second term and those predictions of $10 a gallon gas, al Qaeda did not take over the US, No socialism, he didn't take money out of your bank account and distribute it to blacks and you still have your guns. You just about made it through.

 

And to my Democratic brothers. You don't have to be offended by every thing. Stop looking for reasons to be a victim. I'm a democrat (although strangely I've often been accused of being a conservative on this board) but even I have gotten to the point where I'm saying to myself 'damn, a Republican can't say anything these days without being accused of something' . If you're gonna preach tolerance, practice a little yourself. If someone has concerns about a man sharing a bathroom with their wife or daughter, take a beat and give them time to process it before branding them.

 

Good night... Deplorables :grin:

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I think a lot of it has to do with just winning. Who cares who the president is as long as they sport your color.

 

I agree nothings gonna change in Washington that's why I just want to scream at my republican friends and tell them to calm DF down. The world is not gonna end if you don't get what you want. Obamas getting ready to finish his second term and those predictions of $10 a gallon gas, al Qaeda did not take over the US, No socialism, he didn't take money out of your bank account and distribute it to blacks and you still have your guns. You just about made it through.

 

And to my Democratic brothers. You don't have to be offended by every thing. Stop looking for reasons to be a victim. I'm a democrat (although strangely I've often been accused of being a conservative on this board) but even I have gotten to the point where I'm saying to myself 'damn, a Republican can't say anything these days without being accused of something' . If you're gonna preach tolerance, practice a little yourself. If someone has concerns about a man sharing a bathroom with their wife or daughter, take a beat and give them time to process it before branding them.

 

Good night... Deplorables :grin:

 

One night of drinking with me and you would pull a straight R ticket hoss.:grin:

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Well it's over. Just like the ND season. GOP was stupid as I said in the past they did not nominate Kasich, would have won. I would have voted for him. Anyone blaming the media for going after Trump is ridiculous. You say sex sell? No sorry, I don't want someone who sexually assaults people as my president. Clinton Wikileaks, small potatos. Seems the Russians came out with their big stuff in August. Clinton was up by 5 before Trump was exposed sexuality assaulting folks and now she is up by 10, either way she would have won. Go to 538 to get the real stats. And Nicknan you can't even even get good cold beer in your state thanks to repubs. Tell me can you get a cold beer at a convince store or how about a beer on Sunday? The only good thing about Indiana is 3 Floyds. Thanks repubs! Meanwhile, I can get a great beer for 4.50 at any brewery/bar in Portland. Sorry I have seen GOP policies and I have seen Dem states. Dem states work and build small business. BTW I am back. Can't let this alt right site slide with Mis-information. You can have your gun but damn it's hard to get a beer.

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Seems like the only place I see anything reported is on Facebook posts. ABC, CBS, NBC, and CNN can't get enough of Trump and sexual implications, but report on something that's really important to this country? Nah, too much work. They just seem to go for the tabloid headlines, not the meaty stories.

 

So admittting you sexually assault people is not important? Dude said he sexually assaults women. His words, I don't know what else to say.

 

My biggest fear right now:

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_58014995e4b0162c043c1e90

 

Serious terriost threat after Clinton wins, brought on by fear mongering. I also fear for journalist just doing their job.

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Well it's over. Just like the ND season. GOP was stupid as I said in the past they did not nominate Kasich, would have won. I would have voted for him. Anyone blaming the media for going after Trump is ridiculous. You say sex sell? No sorry, I don't want someone who sexually assaults people as my president. Clinton Wikileaks, small potatos. Seems the Russians came out with their big stuff in August. Clinton was up by 5 before Trump was exposed sexuality assaulting folks and now she is up by 10, either way she would have won. Go to 538 to get the real stats. And Nicknan you can't even even get good cold beer in your state thanks to repubs. Tell me can you get a cold beer at a convince store or how about a beer on Sunday? The only good thing about Indiana is 3 Floyds. Thanks repubs! Meanwhile, I can get a great beer for 4.50 at any brewery/bar in Portland. Sorry I have seen GOP policies and I have seen Dem states. Dem states work and build small business. BTW I am back. Can't let this alt right site slide with Mis-information. You can have your gun but damn it's hard to get a beer.

 

 

http://i991.photobucket.com/albums/af36/nickman54/its_over_zpsbf50fd941_zpskrvoycyq.gif

 

Go back where you came from moron, grown ups are talking.

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Express a assertive factual comment and get called names. That sounds familiar. But the gif is nice, that pretty much represents the presidential race right now.

 

You are bringing a stupid argument and you should feel bad. Now take your ball and go home again. I'm not even sure why you are bringing me specifically into the argument. I am not making any argument in this thread. Are you obsessed with me? I can send you Dick pics if you want.. I'm glad you can get a good beer in Portland, it helps you cope with the massive homeless issue you have.

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You are bringing a stupid argument and you should feel bad. Now take your ball and go home again. I'm not even sure why you are bringing me specifically into the argument. I am not making any argument in this thread. Are you obsessed with me? I can send you Dick pics if you want.. I'm glad you can get a good beer in Portland, it helps you cope with the massive homeless issue you have.

 

More falsehoods. Actually in other threads I ignored most of your comments, giving you the benefit of the doubt when you would reply obscenities. I usually would deflect the conversation on purpose when you directed comments at me. Anyways, you have been preaching the Repub talking points of the media is out to get Trump ect and with the have a beer be a Repub comment I thought it deserved a reply. I didn't call you names, I didn't even say anything about you personally. I was brought the hypocrisy of your state that it is easier to get a gun than a beer due to conservative policies.

 

And no you can't send me dick pics because you don't have my number, but you did give me yours 8-)

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More falsehoods. Actually in other threads I ignored most of your comments, giving you the benefit of the doubt when you would reply obscenities. I usually would deflect the conversation on purpose when you directed comments at me. Anyways, you have been preaching the Repub talking points of the media is out to get Trump ect and with the have a beer be a Repub comment I thought it deserved a reply. I didn't call you names, I didn't even say anything about you personally. I was brought the hypocrisy of your state that it is easier to get a gun than a beer due to conservative policies.

 

And no you can't send me dick pics because you don't have my number, but you did give me yours 8-)

 

Send them big boy!8-)

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So admittting you sexually assault people is not important? Dude said he sexually assaults women. His words, I don't know what else to say.

 

My biggest fear right now:

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_58014995e4b0162c043c1e90

 

Serious terriost threat after Clinton wins, brought on by fear mongering. I also fear for journalist just doing their job.

 

I don't know. It just seems to me that when a democrat was president from 1992-2000 (and this is a President I voted for and actually liked) and he was not only accused of rape but also caught on a blue dress of having what he denied as sexual relations under the oval desk in the White House, the discussion in the media seemed to be more about, 'well, what he does in his private life isn't as important as what he does as President'. So it seems to me like there's a media double standard.

 

I don't think that someone talking big talk in a locker room or trailer or on film ever threatened the security of an entire country. As more and more and more and more comes out about Clinton and her mails, it appears to me like she has already placed the country at risk. Even in the last couple days we learn that Obama had personally communicated by email with Clinton on her non-secure site. They covered it up and now it's finally exposed. The President and the Secretary of State can communicate through illegal nonauthorized electronically hackable methods and nothing happens, but Trump remains the headline. Just a terrible thing.

 

But I'm sorry for thinking this way. I really must be deplorable.

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