2023 Fighting Irish X's and O's Thread

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no shock here we will be in the 4-4 defense for Navy. Kiser and Ausberry working from depth. No need for a 2 safety look vs Navy as they don't throw much

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Depth Charts came out today

 

What they did say

Thomas has moved to an outside receiver position, backed up by Colzie. So I assume thats Lenzy's spot.

Tyree starting at what I am going to call z(slot), He's backed up by Greathouse. So I assume its a Small z for their motion/RPO stuff and A Big Z for their 3 and 6 in a crucial situation stuff.

They're starting Tobias  Merriweather at the #1. Can't teach 6'4 with speed. Just hope he is ready for the increased responsibility.

 

 

What it doesn't say.

ND runs a base nickle defense. No mention of the nickel back. I guarantee we won't be in 4-3 much against Ohio State, USC or Clemson.

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2 hours ago, FaithInIrish Forever said:

Depth Charts came out today

 

What they did say

Thomas has moved to an outside receiver position, backed up by Colzie. So I assume thats Lenzy's spot.

Tyree starting at what I am going to call z(slot), He's backed up by Greathouse. So I assume its a Small z for their motion/RPO stuff and A Big Z for their 3 and 6 in a crucial situation stuff.

They're starting Tobias  Merriweather at the #1. Can't teach 6'4 with speed. Just hope he is ready for the increased responsibility.

 

 

What it doesn't say.

ND runs a base nickle defense. No mention of the nickel back. I guarantee we won't be in 4-3 much against Ohio State, USC or Clemson.

I found this interesting too, because I thought they would mention it. This whole Aztec Position that I thought Lewis would be in. 

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17 minutes ago, Baldy said:

I found this interesting too, because I thought they would mention it. This whole Aztec Position that I thought Lewis would be in. 

I think they are trying to save something for the big moments. 

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23 minutes ago, FaithInIrish Forever said:

I think they are trying to save something for the big moments. 

Yeah, that makes total sense.

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14 hours ago, FaithInIrish Forever said:

Depth Charts came out today

 

What they did say

Thomas has moved to an outside receiver position, backed up by Colzie. So I assume thats Lenzy's spot.

Tyree starting at what I am going to call z(slot), He's backed up by Greathouse. So I assume its a Small z for their motion/RPO stuff and A Big Z for their 3 and 6 in a crucial situation stuff.

They're starting Tobias  Merriweather at the #1. Can't teach 6'4 with speed. Just hope he is ready for the increased responsibility.

 

 

What it doesn't say.

ND runs a base nickle defense. No mention of the nickel back. I guarantee we won't be in 4-3 much against Ohio State, USC or Clemson.

I wonder if future depth charts with include the nickel - can't remember if they did last season. Maybe because they're running a 4-4-3 on Saturday, they didn't include it. 

Regardless, I believe the nickel depth chart would be: 1. Harper 2. Lewis

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3 hours ago, tneun89 said:

I wonder if future depth charts with include the nickel - can't remember if they did last season. Maybe because they're running a 4-4-3 on Saturday, they didn't include it. 

Regardless, I believe the nickel depth chart would be: 1. Harper 2. Lewis

Given that they have at least 3 different defensive packages (base, nickel, dime - or whatever they call them these days) and at least two different offensive packages (one vs two TEs), it is possible that someone will start (i.e. play in the very first play of the game) who is not technically listed as a starter on the official depth chart.

In any case, I believe that you are correct regarding Harper and Lewis at the nickel.

Edited August 22, 2023 by jbrown_9999

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Its a beautiful problem to have when you have multiple guys in multiple positions who are starter worthy  🙂

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Here is the Estime/ Hartman Effect. If I was predicting a play up top its a 90 percent running formation. You have two tight ends acting like fullbacks inserting blocks into the line of scrimmage to lead Estime for a gain. Except Sam Hartman's on the field. By reputation we better keep two safties back. The percentages are correct your down a hat in the run game and you just gave up ten yards and a first down on the ground

 

Well next play. Sam's throwing for sure. Navy  is in soft zone. Well there's a 10 yard throw available to Jayden Thomas, But what are the odds he rips it wide side his first throw? Very good actually. Snap, Rocker(thats a Brian Kelly term) and fire in between the corner and safety for a second straight 1st down.

Later in the Series there is a 3rd and 10 where they just call a hand-off because 1) they wanted to use 4 downs and 2.) with off coverage and 2 safeties deep its such a good run look.

Hartman's passing complimenting the ND running has me smiling.

 

 

 

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On 8/22/2023 at 6:46 AM, tneun89 said:

I wonder if future depth charts with include the nickel - can't remember if they did last season. Maybe because they're running a 4-4-3 on Saturday, they didn't include it. 

Regardless, I believe the nickel depth chart would be: 1. Harper 2. Lewis

I’m just taking a wild guess and thinking that they didn’t care about Navy throwing and wanted to preserve(keep guys fresh) for future opponents. I think we’ll see more done and nickel coverage once ND plays Ohio State and probably NC State. 
 

Wasn’t Harper coming back from a shoulder injury?  Maybe the need to thrust him into a hit first role against Navy wasn’t needed. 
 

Lastly, it looks like this defense is going to be prepared to play all types of exotic looks and fronts. We may never see the same defense weekly- 4-4-3, to 4-3-4, 5-1-5.  And so in. 

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Cool view of Hartman's 1 minute drill

 

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My time of year is here! Game 1 for all opponents in the books ND has two games on tape.

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Here's NCST first 3rd down stop. They  have the "center fielder" single safety and the corners playing "half-way"   To me there's 3 types of cornerback depths. Press, halfway, and off. To me the guys to the Field are half-way the guy to the bottom is pressed, and the running back and safety are "off". The corner takes the guy behind the LOS and the safety takes the wideout on the. It look like if he threw the in-breaking route the drive would have continued but he went for the wheel route and threw it out of bounds

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Brennan Armstrong is a good runner with a strong build so he needs to be wrapped up he will break arm tackles

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Armstrong still appears to have the wide stance and the long release. So I assume they are coaching to get your hands up. This was a tipped ball. Gotta get more  pressure than this.

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This is a 5 man rush with a stunt, well covered deep ball.

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Power running football team out of spread formations. Feels alot like ND is playing the same style as they play themselves this week.

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#2 ALLEN is really good. Plays all purpose back. Screen pass went for a first down plus here

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34 Mimms is their short yardage guy.