Great JRE podcast on Converting White Nationalists

[Kelly Gruene 26]

Scared, many probably are. But many are also in bed with the cartels too. Corrupt politicians and corrupt cops, and those who try to stand up the cartels and gangs become targets. As a citizen what do you do, you can't trust anyone from the government. You can't defend yourself either due to strict gun laws. Not a place I would want to live.

 

The female FBI agent I mentioned earlier was born and raised in Mexico City. She is afraid to, and now doesn't, go to Mexico any more. She is afraid that the cartel will identify her as FBI and go after her family, who remain in Mexico City. It's said that she can't even go visit her family because the cartels are so into every aspect of Mexican life and government.

[echo88 74]

Agreed. No problem with immigrants, but it needs to be controled and done legally. US policy used to be more restrictive once upon a time, and many western countries used to be the same way until recently. The plight of the "refugee" has made a mess of the entire process.

 

America is truly an island in the world where freedom and opporrunity can be found nowhere else. If we let in everyone who wants to live here there would be 6-7 billion people or basically all of mankind.

 

For the life of me, i still don't understand how being anti-illegal immigration gets looped in with wanting to keep all immigrants out of the U.S....

 

It's not the same thing at all...

[jessemoore97 1,280]

For the life of me, i still don't understand how being anti-illegal immigration gets looped in with wanting to keep all immigrants out of the U.S....

 

It's not the same thing at all...

 

I can't explain it either. Basically whatever you want to do and how dare anyone try to limit, fence in, impose restrictions on, or acceot responsibility for anything. As long as you belong to whatever "marginalized" group of people that is.

 

Thankfully a lot of people are starting to wake the heck up and are rejecting the extreme views of the left.

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For the life of me, i still don't understand how being anti-illegal immigration gets looped in with wanting to keep all immigrants out of the U.S....

 

It's not the same thing at all...

 

When did illegal immigrants become "undocumented immigrants"?

 

Does that mean that a bank robber is simply making an "undocumented withdrawal"?

 

Should I expect to be able to go to any country and gain entrance without showing a passport/visa and start living there regardless of their laws?

[corysold 0]

Youvtwo can’t explain it because you are clearly unwoke, xenophobic, racist bigots. Duh.

 

[Tenacious_ND 0]

When did illegal immigrants become "undocumented immigrants"?

 

I think it was right about the time corporations realized they could get super cheap labor. Those AT&T fiber lines aren't going to install themselves.

[irishwavend 571]

I think it was right about the time corporations realized they could get super cheap labor. Those AT&T fiber lines aren't going to install themselves.

 

Pretty sure it’s when Democrats learned that being apologists for illegals doesn’t poll well, so they had to rebrand them for more sympathy. But, hey, maybe their position isn’t such a bad idea. If we don’t believe in borders, maybe we should go take over a cool place like Bora Bora or the Bahamas. I mean with no borders, I’m sure people won’t care where I stick my flag, build a house, and enjoy my life, right? Especially if I work with an entire battalion of US soldiers to claim luxury areas across the globe. No borders!!! Partaaay!!!

[Tenacious_ND 0]

Pretty sure it’s when Democrats learned that being apologists for illegals doesn’t poll well, so they had to rebrand them for more sympathy. But, hey, maybe their position isn’t such a bad idea. If we don’t believe in borders, maybe we should go take over a cool place like Bora Bora or the Bahamas. I mean with no borders, I’m sure people won’t care where I stick my flag, build a house, and enjoy my life, right? Especially if I work with an entire battalion of US soldiers to claim luxury areas across the globe. No borders!!! Partaaay!!!

 

I have no problem with them. I say slap them with an EIN at the border pull taxes from them and let them build our infrastructure. We already let china take over the product department.

[irishwavend 571]

I have no problem with them. I say slap them with an EIN at the border pull taxes from them and let them build our infrastructure. We already let china take over the product department.

 

Not a bad idea if they didn't ship all their money back south. I guess we could slap a tax on that, too. Part of the problem is that you can't force them to work, so if you give them and EIN and allow them in, they get all the constitutional rights that afford them our social programs. And, I think that the way the economy is running now, I think the idea works, but what happens when the economy goes in the tank and they're taking jobs from those who were here first? That's kind of the point of legal immigration - to measure how many folks the country can handle economically. If you let everyone in, you may over-saturate.

 

My pet peeve is when people say that the illegals "do the jobs no one wants." If you don't have a job, you don't have the luxury of sticking your nose in the air and saying you don't want the job. Get your butt off the couch, move, or do whatever and get a job... I don't care if you want it or not. We shouldn't be paying you if there is something available, regardless how crappy it is.

[ckp160 10]

My pet peeve is when people say that the illegals "do the jobs no one wants." If you don't have a job, you don't have the luxury of sticking your nose in the air and saying you don't want the job. Get your butt off the couch, move, or do whatever and get a job... I don't care if you want it or not. We shouldn't be paying you if there is something available, regardless how crappy it is

 

I get what you're saying here, but it's not that simple. I'll give you a personal example. I got laid off for about 6 weeks. When I got laid off, I filed for unemployment. Here in WA State, they go based off your last couple of quarters of earnings for how much you'll make. Like most people with a decent job..... well FORMER decent job..... I maxed out how much I could get. Sounds great, but it's not all that much. You have to apply for 3 jobs a week. There are some rules about that. One of them is that you do NOT have to take any job that pays less than what you made before. It's also kind of weird because there were a million jobs for $15 bucks an hour to drive a forklift in a warehouse, but I would've made LESS money working than if I continued to collect unemployment and look for a job.

 

The whole experience was an eye-opener about how they could improve the system. Fortunately, my situation was a short term one, and I knew that from the beginning. It was just a matter of time before I was going to get called back. I gained a ton of empathy for people who work hard and lsoe their jobs. It's a miserable experience.

[irishwavend 571]

I get what you're saying here, but it's not that simple. I'll give you a personal example. I got laid off for about 6 weeks. When I got laid off, I filed for unemployment. Here in WA State, they go based off your last couple of quarters of earnings for how much you'll make. Like most people with a decent job..... well FORMER decent job..... I maxed out how much I could get. Sounds great, but it's not all that much. You have to apply for 3 jobs a week. There are some rules about that. One of them is that you do NOT have to take any job that pays less than what you made before. It's also kind of weird because there were a million jobs for $15 bucks an hour to drive a forklift in a warehouse, but I would've made LESS money working than if I continued to collect unemployment and look for a job.

 

The whole experience was an eye-opener about how they could improve the system. Fortunately, my situation was a short term one, and I knew that from the beginning. It was just a matter of time before I was going to get called back. I gained a ton of empathy for people who work hard and lsoe their jobs. It's a miserable experience.

 

I see what you're saying, and I had bankruptcy clients that were like that. So, I guess I'm not really talking about that situation. I'm talking more about the folks who permanently sit on their as$es.

[GunSlinger 28]

The next major terror attack in this country will originate from people who entered this country by illegal means through our southern boarder, and it won't be people of Central or South American descent. It's that simple...but hey let's let everybody in because they're just poor people looking for a better life. I'm all for LEGAL Immigration though.

[Tenacious_ND 0]

The next major terror attack in this country will originate from people who entered this country by illegal means through our southern boarder, and it won't be people of Central or South American descent. It's that simple...but hey let's let everybody in because they're just poor people looking for a better life. I'm all for LEGAL Immigration though.

 

check the stats, I'm pretty sure Homegrown terrorism is more of a threat.

[Soko 128]

check the stats, I'm pretty sure Homegrown terrorism is more of a threat.

 

You should define that better. White, domestic, homegrown terrorists.

[jessemoore97 1,280]

You should define that better. White, domestic, homegrown terrorists.

 

Are you saying the majority of US terrorism fits that demographic?

 

I would like the definition of terrorism defined better. Who's definition?

 

I've charged people with terrorism before. Prior to and until it was changed post 9-11, Iowa had a terrorism law on the books. We usually applied it to shooting incidents. If a person(s) shot up a neighborhood and multiple properties were struck by gunfire, no one was hurt, and there was no clear indicator of an intended victim, terrorism was applied. The law was amended after 9-11, and now we have a different charge for the above example.

 

How is terrorism applied. For instance, had he lived, would the Vegas shooter be charged terrorism? I have yet to hear any motivation in the case. Which strikes me as very odd that it pretty much dropped off the map. Wonder why?

[Kelly Gruene 26]

You should define that better. White, domestic, homegrown terrorists.

 

Bernie bros?

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/17/us/politics/bernie-sanders-supporters-nevada.html

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/warren-says-sanders-has-lot-questions-answer-about-his-supporters-n1137836

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/01/27/bernie-sanderss-trump-like-campaign-is-disaster-democrats/

 

Tonight's debate will be "must see" tv.

Bloomberg will be attacked by Sanders and Warren, and he will do some attacking of his own.

And at the end of the stage, there will be Amy all alone, saying, "What about me?"

Whether you agree or disagree with these candidates, the entertainment value alone will be high.

Edited February 19, 2020 by Kelly Gruene

[irishwavend 571]

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Antifa terrorists...

[Kelly Gruene 26]

Tonight's debate will be "must see" tv.

Bloomberg will be attacked by Sanders and Warren, and he will do some attacking of his own.

And at the end of the stage, there will be Amy all alone, saying, "What about me?"

Whether you agree or disagree with these candidates, the entertainment value alone will be high.

 

 

The debate did NOT disappoint.

And after today, a man who has never been a member of the democratic party, a man who espouses "democratic socialism" but has a strong history of embracing communist leaders and ideas, will take a commanding lead to be the party's nominee for President of the United States. I thought they may have to have a brokered convention in Milwaukee, but once Biden and Buttigieg fall by the wayside on Super Tuesday, Sanders will likely have enough delegates to win the nomination outright.

Bloomberg had an awful debate. He is going to have to do better in upcoming debates if he wants to beat Bernie. I thought Bloomberg's spending on commercials would be enough, but I'm beginning to doubt that.

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/will-sanders-long-ago-praise-socialist-regimes-hurt-democrats-november-n1139811

 

Here's a little ditty from the Communist Party USA website: https://www.cpusa.org/article/how-to-win-in-2020-to-the-left-march/

[jessemoore97 1,280]

The debate did NOT disappoint.

And after today, a man who has never been a member of the democratic party, a man who espouses "democratic socialism" but has a strong history of embracing communist leaders and ideas, will take a commanding lead to be the party's nominee for President of the United States. I thought they may have to have a brokered convention in Milwaukee, but once Biden and Buttigieg fall by the wayside on Super Tuesday, Sanders will likely have enough delegates to win the nomination outright.

Bloomberg had an awful debate. He is going to have to do better in upcoming debates if he wants to beat Bernie. I thought Bloomberg's spending on commercials would be enough, but I'm beginning to doubt that.

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/will-sanders-long-ago-praise-socialist-regimes-hurt-democrats-november-n1139811

 

Here's a little ditty from the Communist Party USA website: https://www.cpusa.org/article/how-to-win-in-2020-to-the-left-march/

 

Socialists...Milwaukee...I feel a Wayne's World reference coming on strong.

 

In all seriousness though, even if Bernie wins the delegates state by state he is far from a shoe in for the nomination. Remember the D party that is trying to dismantle the Electoral College in favor of simple majority democracy, has built into their party superdelegates who are beholden to no one and can choose whoever THEY want overruling the will if their own denocratic process. Hypocrits much, I think so.. I have little doubt that these bastions of the D party will find a way to keep Bernie out yet again when the time comes helping to further drive stake into the party.

 

Its funny how people fail to see how that party is scared of their own talking points and had to enact rules allowing them to maintain control over the mob rule majority. Allowing elections in even the most corrupt places is always acceptable. Its not democracy that needs to be controlled, all that matters is who counts the votes...paraphrasing Stalin.

[irishwavend 571]

Socialists...Milwaukee...I feel a Wayne's World reference coming on strong.

 

In all seriousness though, even if Bernie wins the delegates state by state he is far from a shoe in for the nomination. Remember the D party that is trying to dismantle the Electoral College in favor of simple majority democracy, has built into their party superdelegates who are beholden to no one and can choose whoever THEY want overruling the will if their own denocratic process. Hypocrits much, I think so.. I have little doubt that these bastions of the D party will find a way to keep Bernie out yet again when the time comes helping to further drive stake into the party.

 

Its funny how people fail to see how that party is scared of their own talking points and had to enact rules allowing them to maintain control over the mob rule majority. Allowing elections in even the most corrupt places is always acceptable. Its not democracy that needs to be controlled, all that matters is who counts the votes...paraphrasing Stalin.

 

They got rid of superdelegates I thought...