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I said "many" not all. You knew that yet decided to continue with the deception and distortion. Typical lib. Don't put words in my mouth.

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Cali, the ad hominem king.

That lower income people pay more for health care as a percentage of their income than higher income earners is not a huge news story. Obviously!! Duh. So should the solution be to steal by coercive government power from those with higher incomes and give it to the lower income wage earners? That's essentially what our socialist-in-chief is proposing to do. Or perhaps those folks on the lower end of the income scale could go back to night school to learn a trade or profession to increase their salary and better their lives. That is the way it should be, not confiscating wealthier folks' hard-earned salary. Many people at the lower end of the income scale made a decision that school was not fun and they chose to quit school or not pursue a higher education. There are consequences to making bad decisions. Why should I or any other taxpayer pay for those poor choices? Health insurance is not a right.

I don't believe everything I read.

Source? Ridiculous. There is no way to know this and it's a myth that people are dying because they don't have health insurance. Here is something I wrote last year: Health Insurance vs Health Scare Supporters of socialized health care are claiming that there are 47 million Americans who are uninsured. Where this number comes from is questionable but assume it's true. There is a big difference between the number of people with no insurance and the number of people who get no health care. It has been reported in the news that of the 47 million uninsured Americans, the vast majority fall into three categories: 1. Illegal Aliens 2. Folks making at or above $80,000 who choose not to have health insurance. 3. Low-income folks who do not have health insurance but who nevertheless receive free health benefits such as from Medicaid and other government payments. The folks who support socialized medicine try and confuse everyone into believing that 47 million people don't get health care. This is untrue. Every person listed above receives health care but they don't have health insurance. So the entire debate is based upon a false premise that millions of folks don't receive health care because they are uninsured. And the democrats and Obama want everyone to believe that there are droves of people dying because they recieve no health care. This is a disingenuous and deceptive attempt by Obama and his minions to obtain more government control over our lives and has little to do with providing health services to people who need it. This is Health Scare. In summary, this scare tactic is being used by liberals, Obama, and the democrat congress who would have everyone believe that people are dying in droves just because they don't have health insurance. This is nonsense. We don't need a government plan that will drive out all private competition because of an unending supply of our taxpayer money. Then the entire medical system will be run like the Dept. of Motor vehicles or the VA Hospital (I know, I'm a veteran) which will lead to loss of choice, massive red tape, extremely long waiting times for critical testing and surgery, rationing of health care where the elderly are left behind because of cost/benefit will divert funds to younger, healthier people, and good doctors will choose other professions because their salaries will be capped and we will have "C" students doing surgery on us. All of this has been documented and we just have to look it up to see what other countries with government-run healthcare are like. Government is the problem, not the solution. We can reform health care without the aid of bureaucrats and put in place market-based solutions which will encourage competition, provide better service and lower health care costs. Yes we need reform but the government needs to keep its stinking nose out of the process because everyone knows what will happen when the only choice any of us will have is the government – one size fits all – no other choice!

Everyone knows that the so-called, only one government option, is a Trojan Horse where the government will eventually take over health care 100% with what Obama says he is for, "a single-payer system" - which effectively will drive private insurance companies out of business. No private company can compete with the government on a level playing field. The government can be inefficient and have cost overruns because it has an unlimited supply of taxpayer dollars and will effectively put everyone else out of business. Even John Kerry admits this: John Kerry admits single-payer will run private insurance companies out of business “I’m personally for single payer,” Kerry told Single Payer Action. “But we don’t have the votes.” But if you fought for single payer, wouldn’t you have the votes? “No,” Kerry said. “Some people are unpersuadable on the topic. They are ideologically in a different places and we don’t have the votes.” Just admit it, Senator Kerry, single payer would put the insurance companies out of business. “Yes it would,” Kerry admits as he gets on the elevator at the National Press Building. And that’s the reason why you don’t have the votes. “You make that determination,” Kerry said. Instead of taking single payer to the American people, explaining that much of the world has what we don’t have, and fighting and defeating the insurance industry, Kerry and liberal Democrats keep repeating the mantra — we don’t have the votes. Nor do they have the votes for a strong public option — or maybe any public option. It’s a defeatist attitude that is bound to condemn 60 Americans to death every day from lack of health insurance. And good ol' Barney Frank admits that such a public plan will lead to a government takeover of health care: Barney Frank: Yes, a public plan will lead to a government takeover of health care. http://hotair.com/archives/2009/07/30/barney-frank-yes-a-public-plan-will-lead-to-a-government-takeover-of-health-care/comment-page-1/ Obama explains how his plan will eventually lead to the elimination of private health care plans: http://www.breitbart.tv/uncovered-video-obama-explains-how-his-health-care-plan-will-eliminate-private-insurance/

Yeah, but I have a choice which insurance company. When the gubmint takes over health care, I won't. So it's called a death panel when insurance companies are involved in this but not death panels when the gubmint gets involved in counseling and end of life decisions?

It's in the bill. Read it. I thought you promised your last word a few posts ago. LOL!

hahahahahahahahahaha You are a crackup! What is your source for this? The White House? LOL! Irrational gullibility reigns!

If Obama has his way, I probably will do just that - lose everything I worked so hard to get. And the wait in line for any illness will be so long I'll die waiting or a bureaucratic government death panel will say "he's too old to keep him alive" and I won't be treated anyway.

Obviously from the Samuelson camp. Liberal indoctrination goin' on at many universities. You probably thought Obama's stimulus would have a mulitplier effect and would create jobs. LOL!

You reveal your ignorance here about what socialism is. First of all, socialism involves taking from those who have worked and produced and giving to those who have worked little or produced nothing by force and the threat of imprisonment if you don't. Social security is something that was forced out of my paycheck first by the government. They took some of my money without my consent that I sweated my ass off to earn and decided that me and millions of other Americans were too stupid and unsophisticated to take care of our own retirement. So the social security system itself it a socialist notion from jumpstreet. That being said, when the government later in our lives at retirement gives us that money, they are merely giving back to us what WE earned and were forced to give to them. That money is MY money, not YOUR money! So it is not socialist to get back from mommy and daddy gubmint what you aleady earned. What is socialist is taking money from the government that you did not earn. Government does not produce a product from which it can receive money - it has to take some of our money to do what it does, so if you get something from the government that you didn't earn and that particular program is not a legitimate, Constitutional function of the federal government, it's legalized theft. Our Founding Fathers created the Constitution to protect Americans from government as much as from foreign enemies. Milton Friedman aptly wrote about the Constitutional and proper role of the federal government and we should all be willing to pay taxes for the these, but not for unconstitutional social programs that are out of control - you know, entitlement programs. Friedman wrote: Friedman was right on! You should study some economics and world history and learn the difference between a command society and a free capitalist society. The primary reason why people all over the world want to come to America is because we are a free people and capitalism, not big-government socialism is what makes us the envy of the world.

IS OBAMA A SOCIALIST? http://www.wnd.com/index.php/index.php?pageId=78330

What did Reagan do that was "socialist." Reagan worked hard by first cutting taxes, firing the federal air traffic controllers union, decreased the size of social government, increased the military budget because Carter had left it in shambles. He got government off of our backs. How is, in Obama's words, "redistributive justice" not socialist? How is "spreading the wealth" not socialist? How is taking over a private corporation and firing its CEO not socialist? How is taxing the rich more than they already pay (the top 1% pay more than the bottom 90%) not socialist? How is a confiscatory progressive tax system not socialist? (A plank in Marx's Communist writings) Capitalism is about prosperity and freedom of the individual while socialism is about big government distribution of "fairness" by coercion. Obama is clearly a socialist. His policies, his speeches, his desire to have free health care for all are socialist policies where you by coercion take from the producers and give to the nonproducers. This is not only immoral but it is what all tyrannical dictators and failed socialist countries have tried. It rewards sloth and punishes success. Take a look at the plank of the socialist party in the U.S. - it reads like an Obama speech. What they want, he wants. The government does not have Constitutional authority to fine me or anyone else if they choose not to have health insurance yet our socialist-in-chief wants to do just that. Socialism doesn't work, never has, never will. As Maggie Thatcher said, "the problem with socialism is that sooner or later you run out of eveyone else's money." She got that right. Anyone who doesn't think Obama is a socialist hasn't studied the subject or any world history and is completely ignorant of economics, human behavior, and how and why capitalism is the greatest system on the face of the earth for increasing everyone's standard of living - if they are willing to work hard and do what they can and should do for themselves to become self-sufficient rather than to be a parasite waiting for a handout from others. People like you and Obama naively and falsely think poor people are poor because rich people are rich. And liberals have been shown to be among the stingiest people on the face of the earth when it comes to giving charity. Take Joe Biden for example. For over nearly a decade when he earned over $200,000 per year, he gave a measly $365 per year to charity; yet, he has the audacity to tell Americans that they don't pay enough taxes to help the less fortunate. That's the hypocrisy of the left - of people like you. You are very compassionate with MY money. Well you and your socialist buddies don't have the right to go beyond the Constitutional function of the federal government to confiscate my money for your useless giveaway programs that end up hurting the very people you think you are helping. We've had enough of you socialists and in November you will hear from us just like they heard from others like us in Massachusetts who love this country and their personal liberty. How's that for my own thoughts?

I'm giving up using KY and therefore requiring longer and slower foreplay.

They call Obama a socialist because he espouses socialist policies. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism Most socialists share the view that capitalism unfairly concentrates power and wealth among a small segment of society that controls capital and derives its wealth through exploitation, creates an unequal society, does not provide equal opportunities for everyone to maximise their potential and does not utilise technology and resources to their maximum potential nor in the interests of the public. jt allen md

You didn't see it?

purple microdot. not sure where i was then. when there is a kalidiscope in your head and you are flipping out while the walls are moving and people's faces are melting, nothing is creepy, even that song. And you hear shit you never heard before in the music. Far out. That's Richard Harris the actor.

donna summer? heck I must be old. that song was sung by Richard Harris as I remember it: No I did not know it was written by J. Webb. What the hell what that song about? It only made sense on LSD.

Is that the cake that was left out in the rain?

I'm giving up my body.

You can't make me!:tape:

Rumor has it that Jimmy Clausen won't need any of the black-eye stuff to put under his eyes, he makes his own.

The Reformed Church categorizes law into three aspects: 1. Civil 2. Ceremonial 3. Spiritual or Moral While many of the first two have been fufilled in Christ and are no longer applicable today, the 3rd aspect of law has never been abolished because the 10 Commandments reflect the very character of God, who is unchanging. As I said before, Jesus raised the bar on the 10 Commandments in His Sermon on the Mount.