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I have to be a methodist now piratey---:grin:---i don't know, jesus seemed to be a pretty liberal fella--pacifist,anti-authoritarian,uber-tolerant, the classic wealth redistributor, pro-universal helath, anti-materialsim--:grin:---indeed perhaps the only rare expression of anger was at the ( money changers) capitalists putting wealth & power above all else.

 

Now if he had set up the loaves and the fishes as simply an "equal opportunity" to get some---everyone starts at the olive grove & races to the hilltop and to the victor belongs the spoils, the meek & the weak can simply eat their dust---then maybe i would expect a more conservative bent from catholicism, but alas jesus was way off in left field, waay off--:grin:--I think expecting more liberalism from the representive of jesus in the church should not force me out among the heretics of the reformation--:grin:

 

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I have to be a methodist now piratey---:grin:---i don't know,jesus seemed to be a pretty liberal fella--pacifist,anti-authoritarian,uber-tolerant,the classic wealth redistributor,pro-universal helath,anti-materialsim--:grin:---indeed perhaps the only rare expression of anger was at the(money changers)capitalists putting wealth&power above all else.

Now if he had set up the loaves and the fishes as simply an"equal opportunity"to get some---everyone starts at the olive grove&races to the hilltop and to the victor belongs the spoils,the meek&the weak can simply eat their dust---then maybe i would expect a more conservative bent from catholicism,but alas jesus was way off in left field,waay off--:grin:--I think expecting more liberalism from the representive of jesus in the church should not force me out among the heretics of the reformation--:grin:aloha's

 

Lmao! I know you're joking here. I'm Thinking you are a fellow member of the Knights of Columbus

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Peter Turkson is the way to go. African Born. American educated. Young(64). He might be a little more conservative than I think you're hoping for, but if you're looking in that direction...try the Methodist Church. I like his stance on contraception in Africa, slyly acknowledging condoms but pointing out their poor quality in Africa. I don't want a a liberal pope, a liberal pope would be disastrous. I want a pragmatic pope.

 

No more European Pope's please...They don't represent the religion, for it has left Europe...I want an African/North/South American pope.

 

I was thinking unitarian "church"...

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St Malachy and his papal predictions --fortelling of future events---end of days stuff--

 

I'm sorry but i find this somewhat disturbing--i thought most all the nostradamus stuff and the end of days chatter was the purview of Born again evangelicals---not the more rational elements of catholicism.

 

Please tell me this is just a little fun exercise and is not really taken seriously.

 

On the pope---i have NEVER been a fan of this pope for so many reasons----- hopefully he is resigning for the reasons he says and not because he is about to be emersed in scandal. i will say his departure does not bother me one iota.

 

I hope we get to a more progressive pope---young and preferably italian---so many of the italian candidates have been passed by because they are for the most part, much more liberal.

 

Reason can coexist with Faith IMO. But its often challenging.

 

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Hawaii how can you say Benedict excludes reason? Have you ever read any of his work? It's incredibly philosophical and theological.

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I meant that in a more generic sense coaster--my lack of enthusiasm for this pope is not rooted in intellectual ground , he's always been simply too much of a power player IMO , i found his whole selection lacking , and i have several other problems with him that are more of a personal nature then philosophical , but lets not speak ill of the soon to be resigned.

 

Anyhow its on to the college of cardinals, a charming exercise in nonpolitical goings on--:-)

 

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Benedict's been pretty good in my opinion. Took on the sex abuse scandal as soon as he was elected unlike many before him who often passively-aggressively allowed the decisions to roll down hill so as not to divide followers.

 

Benedict was hand picked by John Paul to keep the Church true to its roots. I thought he did quite well and being 85 years old he may well be making the right choice.

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