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Totally agreed that this was predictable. Well, I'm sure it's happened in the past but it will add a meaningful amount of pressure once this becomes public. And, admittedly, this will be really messy as programs/boosters/players figure out how to navigate this. Some programs/boosters will take the approach of coming out strong and throwing gobs (and assuming a ton of risks) and others will play the long game of having more bankable commitments (be that playing time or NIL). Miami/UM's boosters are clearly taking a big swing on the short game. They better hope that they don't wind up with another Quinn Ewers. I'd imagine, a program only gets so many of those before they start to build a bad wrap.

My gut-reaction takes are (repeating my common refrain): Let's start the debate by acknowledging that boosters/programs have always been paying players which means that CFB has effectively been a pro sport already If a player flops and some idiot/program is in for $10M with said player, that's their fault for misjudging the talent and the market. Really, that's a great outcome. Now they're publically in for $10M that they can't spend somewhere else. What's the alternative? That sponsorship money goes somewhere else? Or, that we move it back to going under the table?

(re)Posted from recruiting thread https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10040029-jaden-rashada-reportedly-agreed-to-95m-nil-contract-with-miami-booster-john-ruiz There are some posts in the 2023 recruiting thread but I'm moving this here so we don't hijack that thread.

You should create a dedicated thread If sponsorship dollars in college football recruiting registers on the list of "problems that are most significantly contributing to societal decay" then things are a lot better off here than I had thought

Agreed that the percentages are low. But, alternatively, the vast majority of college football players don't receive an education that prepares them for a post-college non-athletic career, let alone have available time or focus factor to consider non-football concerns without running the risk of eroding what little chance they have of an NFL career. Put another way, at this point in his life, someone at Moore's level is already so invested in football and so unlikely to establish the basis of another career over the next 2-3 years that he might as well continue to ride out this path.

kinda feel we'd have a better shot at Young if they danced behind him with a 360-degree camera. That look alongside those icy whips? passe.

Yeah, he and Keon ace the eyeball test.

Live look at me, a (perhaps soon-to-be former) technologist, trying to wrap my head around commercializing a non-fungible digital token.

Hiestand's track record with 3-stars is pretty stellar. And, this kid's tape definitely pops. As someone that has passing knowledge of OL theory and practice, I would have used the adjectives explosive and violent watch just a few clips of his film. This kid has a lot to work with.

Can we really expect an answer to this sort of question? I mean, either this isn't happening (and he'll never say anything to that effect because it's not like people go around listing all of the things they're not going to do) or he is doing it, in which case he won't say it publicly (since that would hurt his efforts to gain followers, max NIL and, in general, establish a broad, marketable, reputation) and neither will schools since revealing that would hurt their broader recruiting efforts not to mention job prospects (see, Pearl, Bruce).

I'm gonna hijack golson5's point a bit and say that "for ND to get to the top of the mountain, they'll need to be able to recruit blue chip QB's 3 out of every 4 years". So, in that sense, it shouldn't have an impact. Of course, in the present context, there's a distinct possibility it will have an impact. As a matter of fact, if history is any guide, it will. It's a great opportunity for the staff to show how big of a leap we're going to take.

247 lists Lloyd Carr as his grandfather. 👀

I think local businesses for sure. And, I would go back to 'where this all began' and say social media presence. I do wonder about apparel, which will certainly be a battleground since that is a major source of revenue for football programs. But, that wouldn't be the first time a player and a league locked horns over competing interests sponsorships

I looked this up yesterday and the only date I found suggested TAMU on the 19th.

He's that sort of prospect that screams "playin' sundays" just by looking at him

Lots of changes around the RB situation since he committed. Seemed like a talent and I hate to lose him but wish him well. This provides an early and great litmus test of how real our recruitment game is. If you lose a lower-ranked recruit, do you have to go lower in the rankings to backfill or do you level up?

I wonder if Reggie Bush or Poodle contributed to that sponsorship 😏

It certainly will ruin the widely and warmly held perception that A) this hasn't been a pro sport (aka, handsomely compensated) all along and B) players have a deep commitment to universities (and aren't just under the thumb of the much more powerful programs/conferences)

https://www.si.com/campus-union/2013/07/29/alabama-signee-dee-liner-holding-wads-cash-instagram-photo-0

I bet. Like I said, other teams having a public (and likely prolonged) slap fight can only benefit us.

Valid but, save one generational talent, Harbaugh's not elevated one QB that he's come across. By that measure, we're even, at worst.

Lots of strongly-held and conflicting opinions on NIL. Personally, I think that most here would agree that Saban picking fights about it with other programs (allegedly) skirting NIL taking can only be good for us. Let them slap-fight publicly over the issue. Reminds me of the old adage - "Don't go wrestling with pigs. You both get dirty and the pig likes it." I have no idea WTF he's thinking, either. It's not going to curb any 'bad' behavior that may be occurring and just gonna change the headlines around him/the Bama program and introduce distractions.

The program that just lost the one OC that managed to field a dynamic, passable offense under the harbaugh/UM era to Miami (and who trashed them on the way out the door)? Or the one that's returned to the "Co-OC" model that bombed so badly for Harbaugh a few years back? I have no insider information but I see as many reasons that an elite QB recruit would pass on UM as I do reasons a homegrown recruit might be enticed by it.

I'm with you there. Since maybe that window around Peyton's Harrison/Wayne/Clark offense-2007 Patriots Offense, passing has obviously been where the majority of successful teams (college and pro) distinguish themselves from the middle-of-the-pack teams. Seeing the transformation in Saban's offensive approach is pretty telling that you generally need a dynamic playmaker at QB to compete. And, historically, that's always been the case for ND.