Something NDisNCin posted in a different thread got me thinking, and inspired this post. And considering how there are SO many guys that I've heard mentioned as guys, "You have to make room for, no matter what", It'd be nice to see how things really shake out when everyone gets taken into affect.

 

Here's mine as of today (and I KNOW ND's is different).

 

#1 - Michael Floyd

#2 - Steve Filer

 

^^^^--- Guys you take no matter what. Save a spot for them, whatever it takes. The first tier.

 

#3 - Trevor Robinson

#4 - Etienne Sabino

#5 - Marcus Forston

#6 - T.J. Bryant

#7 - Jonathan Baldwin

#8 - Dan McCarthy

#9a - Matt Patchan

#9b - Kenneth Page (I'm still stubbornly driving the Kenny Page fan bus, though the Robinson visit means the bus is real low on gas).

#11 - Ryan Williams

#12 - Jeremy Brown

#13 - Carlton Thomas

 

^^^^--- Guys you woo, show some preferential treatment to. If they visit, have a key recruiter and their position coach on hand to answer their every need, make 'em know they're loved. The second tier.

 

#14 - Will Compton

#15 - Khaled Holmes

#16 - Art Forst

#17 - Chris Harper

#18 - Kapron Lewis-Moore

#19 - Masengo Kabongo

#20 - Martavious Odoms

 

^^^^--- Third tier.

 

In the words of Rick, what say you?

1. Floyd- Must get a big time WR in this class

2. Filer

3. Forston

4. Patchan

5. Robinson

6. Sabino

7. Bryant

8. Baldwin

9. McCarthy

10.C. Thomas

11. J. Brown

12. R.Williams

 

agree 100% on the third tier guys.

Great theme Calves... here's mine...

 

TIER 1

 

Filer, Steve LB (because he's the best local product)

Floyd, Mike WR (critical need with talent from pipeline)

Forston, Marcus DL (because he's a beast)

Patchan, Matt OL (OL monster)

Brown, Arthur LB (talent * talent = awesome)

 

TIER 2

Baldwin, Jonathan WR (top WR wish after Floyd, insurance)

Brown, Jeremy WR (fleibility --> dependent on McCarthy)

Bryant, T.J. DB (talent, but depth is good)

Butler, Brice WR (between he and baldwin)

Hale, Shayne LB (talent)

Hill, Will DB (talent, talent, talent)

McCarthy, Dan DB (talent, heart, talent, heart, smart)

McGuffie, Sam RB (speed kills)

Robinson, Trevor OL

Sabino, Etienne LB (I like him as much as Filer, but we gotta go with the local kid)

Thomas, Carlton RB (great moves)

 

Tier 3

Holmes, Khaled OL

Jenkins, Josh OL

Lewis-Moore, Kapron DL

McGuffie, Sam RB

Odoms, Martavious WR

Page, Kenneth OL

Scott, Darrell RB

1. Floyd

2. Filer

3. Sabino

4. Trev.

5. Patchan

6. Bryant

7. Baldwin

8. Khaled Holmes (USC lock or not, he's coming for a visit and he's good)

9. Jeremy Brown

10. McCarthy

11. Carlton Thomas

12. Ryan Williams

13. Ken Page

 

--------You may be asking, where is Forston? I don't think it's a good move to take friggen SIX DL guys. Thats overstocking in one year for only 3 DL spots. We've got ND kids at those spots already and why should they have another guy be waited for all the way until NSD. I think you stick with the guys that are awesome to begin with. Besides it's been stated that the staff was higher on Omar Hunter than Forston so thats all you need to know about that. Odoms, won't qualify and is waiting until NSD....definently not happenin. I'm not really a beleiver in Forsts abilities that much having seen him play and just uses his body to bull over people and doesn't have much technique or ability that will get him by in college besides the fact that he's going to RU. I don't see Compton getting an offer because Filer will most likely verbal to ND soon and that would mean we'd have 3 ILB's which is more than enough and he's to short and small for OLB/DE hybrid. Harper still has no ND offer, he may eventually but still none yet and he's raw and doesn't really have a position yet. Kabongo, well if I'm not waiting on Forston I'm definently not waiting on Kabongo. Alot of the guys I listed are longshots like Bryant, Patchan, Page, and Holmes but if they visited here and have an offer and are elite then they're on my list. I also don't see Cyrus Gray being recruited that much harder after we pick up some more verbals later this summer. Love it or hate it, thats my list.

1. Floyd

2. Filer

3. Sabino

4. Trev.

5. Patchan

6. Bryant

7. Baldwin

8. Khaled Holmes (USC lock or not, he's coming for a visit and he's good)

9. Jeremy Brown

10. McCarthy

11. Carlton Thomas

12. Ryan Williams

13. Ken Page

 

--------You may be asking, where is Forston? I don't think it's a good move to take friggen SIX DL guys. Thats overstocking in one year for only 3 DL spots. We've got ND kids at those spots already and why should they have another guy be waited for all the way until NSD. I think you stick with the guys that are awesome to begin with. Besides it's been stated that the staff was higher on Omar Hunter than Forston so thats all you need to know about that. Odoms, won't qualify and is waiting until NSD....definently not happenin. I'm not really a beleiver in Forsts abilities that much having seen him play and just uses his body to bull over people and doesn't have much technique or ability that will get him by in college besides the fact that he's going to RU. I don't see Compton getting an offer because Filer will most likely verbal to ND soon and that would mean we'd have 3 ILB's which is more than enough and he's to short and small for OLB/DE hybrid. Harper still has no ND offer, he may eventually but still none yet and he's raw and doesn't really have a position yet. Kabongo, well if I'm not waiting on Forston I'm definently not waiting on Kabongo. Alot of the guys I listed are longshots like Bryant, Patchan, Page, and Holmes but if they visited here and have an offer and are elite then they're on my list. I also don't see Cyrus Gray being recruited that much harder after we pick up some more verbals later this summer. Love it or hate it, thats my list.

 

I definitely respect it. I go back and forth on the whole Forston thing... its too bad that I really like him as a prospect, 'cause logic tells me 5 is tops, especially now.

Nice lists guys.... I do think the following are interchangeable:

Sabino and Filer

Baldwin and Floyd

Once we get one of those players the other is still important but not must have. After that we go for best available players.

Interesting that so many of you have Bryant (the number 1 corner in the country) so low on your lists. I'm assuming that's because you don't think our chances are realistic. Here's my list: (Basically, it's who I want the most to least...)

 

1. Arthur Brown

2. Michael Floyd

3. TJ Bryant

4. Steve Filer

5. Etienne Sabino

6. Patchan

7. Robinson

8. Jonathan Baldwin

9. Bryce Butler

10. Dan McCarthy

11. Marcus Forston

12. Khaled Holmes

13. Josh Jenkins

14. Kenneth Page

15. Jeremy Brown

16. Sam McGuffie

17. Carlton Thomas

18. Ryan Williams

Now you know I have to chime in with my fide cent worth on this topic.

 

1. Floyd.....Greatest need at the moment

2. Sabino.....2nd Greatest need (don't shoot me I think he is better that Filer)

3. T. Robinson/Patchan.....Different positions, but both mean and nasty first to pull the trigger is it, done with OL

4. Baldwin.....Calvin, I mean Jonathan is playing for the next 10 years

5. McCarthy.....To damn versatile to pass up

6. Filer/Compton......Since I think Filer goes elsewhere, Compton fits the scheme well

7. Bryant/J. Brown......Bryant is the longshot, more than likely it will be JB who is no slouch

 

I think that we only have room for "7"! Forston I would love to have, but we need to show the 4 that we already have some love and support. DL is full. LBs we do need alot of. I'm stickin' to my guns about Filer going elsewhere. Plus with McDonald and Sabino are you frickin' kidding me. Lastly, I don't think that we need a running back in this class, but if I had to guess it will be Williams, which means that one of my "7" up top is out and I would say that the long shot is Baldwin. (But not that long, I still think he is very probable

Now you know I have to chime in with my fide cent worth on this topic.

 

1. Floyd.....Greatest need at the moment

2. Sabino.....2nd Greatest need (don't shoot me I think he is better that Filer)

3. T. Robinson/Patchan.....Different positions, but both mean and nasty first to pull the trigger is it, done with OL

4. Baldwin.....Calvin, I mean Jonathan is playing for the next 10 years

5. McCarthy.....To damn versatile to pass up

6. Filer/Compton......Since I think Filer goes elsewhere, Compton fits the scheme well

7. Bryant/J. Brown......Bryant is the longshot, more than likely it will be JB who is no slouch

 

I think that we only have room for "7"! Forston I would love to have, but we need to show the 4 that we already have some love and support. DL is full. LBs we do need alot of. I'm stickin' to my guns about Filer going elsewhere. Plus with McDonald and Sabino are you frickin' kidding me. Lastly, I don't think that we need a running back in this class, but if I had to guess it will be Williams, which means that one of my "7" up top is out and I would say that the long shot is Baldwin. (But not that long, I still think he is very probable

 

------I used to think Filer would end up elsewhere also. Key word "USED TO" if you have followed his recruitment recently at all you'd realize that it's almost in the bank for us. Unless he pulls a shocker and goes to OSU, which I don't think he will.

^^^^^^I thought he would go to Michigan and was such a pessimist about his recruitment, but now I think he is all Irish.

Floyd

Filer

McCarthy(were getting him the 16th, unless he chooses anOSU

Brown

Sabino

Baldwin

Robinson

Butler

Forston

Compton(if Filer doesn't come here)

Williams

Will Hill(even though i know we arent getting him.

I say we're taking 25 and they would be... for the top class in the land...

 

 

1. Filer

2. Floyd

3. McCarthy

4. Brown

5. Robinson

6. Sabino

7. Butler

8. Will Hill/ Forston... If these were the last two guys left... I'd say goodbye to both Crum and Lambert... But those guys are going to have great years and get drafted... Sabino would come in early and take his job...

 

And in looking at that list we could be done by fall camp and just wait on those two guys... I think we could end up doing that...

I wouldn't say that isn't unattainable...

I think its obtainable too TAA! However, as I've said for the last 3 weeks, Filer is going elsewhere so plug Compton in his slot.

I say we're taking 25 and they would be... for the top class in the land...

 

 

1. Filer

2. Floyd

3. McCarthy

4. Brown

5. Robinson

6. Sabino

7. Butler

8. Will Hill/ Forston... If these were the last two guys left... I'd say goodbye to both Crum and Lambert... But those guys are going to have great years and get drafted... Sabino would come in early and take his job...

 

And in looking at that list we could be done by fall camp and just wait on those two guys... I think we could end up doing that...

I wouldn't say that isn't unattainable...

 

Your saying Sabino as a freshman would come in and take Mo Crum's job? Not a chance.

 

Won't matter though, if Crum is healthy he's goin to the league.

Crum not being taken back for a 5th year just shows how caught up you people get in recruiting. It's a no brainer that Weis will take back our best defensive player on the side of the ball where theres not much experience and talent coming back from those classes. Get your head out of your a**.

Crum not being taken back for a 5th year just shows how caught up you people get in recruiting. It's a no brainer that Weis will take back our best defensive player on the side of the ball where theres not much experience and talent coming back from those classes. Get your head out of your a**.

 

IK, your correct assuming that IF both Crum and Weis want a 5th year. Crum may have a good enough year to go to the NFL, or he may not want to apply/get accepted into grad school, its hard to say, but a 5th year has to be agreed upon by both parties - I think its more up to Crum than CW.

I think you are correct in saying that if Crum wants to come back for a 5th yr, CW will let him.