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Was going to post this on Rocks thread about the 2008 class but decided it might be better on its own.

 

First, nothing groundbreaking as my thinking has been shaped by reading DD more than anything...I take CW at his word that he wants around 20 per year. However, I agree with the others that post here that if that top recruit with all the skills wants on board we'd have room.

 

 

Second, I saw in another thread the other day that one recruit was thinking of early entry. So I ask all of you with the steel trap minds...

 

How many schollies were counted in the class we took this Februrary?

 

How many could we therefore take this year?

 

And last...any thoughts on who all might be trying for EE this year?

 

 

Some interesting things to consider now with the number of commits at such a great number so early. Also ZFs transfer will open a spot.

 

My take is that while CW only will take 20 or so per class, things like EE and transfers will actually let that number be 22 or 23.

 

My math be completely wrong, I haven't really thought this through, I mostly was wondering if anyone had heard that any of these guys are thinking EE already.

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if ND only brings in 23 commits this year then things could get sticky. assuming johnson, floyd and mccarthy are the next three that would give ND four more spots (depending on EE). so who would be the most important.

 

17. ethan johnson

18. micheal floyd

19. dan mccarthy

20. bruce buttler

21. Steven Filer

22. Etienne Sabino

23. Kenneth Page

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Here's how I see it playing out:

 

17. Will Compton

18. Ethan Johnson

19. Michael Floyd

20. Dan McCarthy

21. Ryan Williams/Carlton Thomas

22. Art Forst/Matt Patchan/Kenneth Page

23. Steven Filer

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if ND only brings in 23 commits this year then things could get sticky. assuming johnson, floyd and mccarthy are the next three that would give ND four more spots (depending on EE). so who would be the most important.

 

17. ethan johnson

18. micheal floyd

19. dan mccarthy

20. bruce buttler

21. Steven Filer

22. Etienne Sabino

23. Kenneth Page

 

The only thing I might change here is Page for Baldwin. I think with the DL haul we have going on this year, we may be able to skip a year for OL and keep some of the guys that where going to switch from OL to DL on the offensive line.

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Why would EE have anything to do with how many spots we have open? The spring semester doesn't burn a year of eligibility. I'm a little confused by your statement.

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Why would EE have anything to do with how many spots we have open? The spring semester doesn't burn a year of eligibility. I'm a little confused by your statement.

 

The EE guys can be counted toward last years class. Remember CW took a class of 28 b/c of the EE guys (Stewart, Aldridge, and can't remember if it was Walls or McNeil).

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Not to be completely stupid, but so? In any given year, we are allowed 85 or 86 ships, right? So what difference does it make what class they are attributed to? The EE still have 4 years of eligibility and take up a spot on the roster. The bottom line # is what counts, not what recruiting class they fall in to. If we take 23 but 3 are EE we only have 20 in 08 but all 23 count towards the 85/86 (I can't remember how many right now). If we take 23 and 3 are EE are you saying we can take more? Or did I miss the meaning of the thread and we are just talking about how many recruits will be attributed to this class. Jeez, it just kinda dawned on me that I may have missed the whole point...

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Why would EE have anything to do with how many spots we have open? The spring semester doesn't burn a year of eligibility. I'm a little confused by your statement.

 

The EE guys can be counted toward last years class. Remember CW took a class of 28 b/c of the EE guys (Stewart, Aldridge, and can't remember if it was Walls or McNeil).

 

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Not to be completely stupid, but so? In any given year, we are allowed 85 or 86 ships, right? So what difference does it make what class they are attributed to? The EE still have 4 years of eligibility and take up a spot on the roster. The bottom line # is what counts, not what recruiting class they fall in to. If we take 23 but 3 are EE we only have 20 in 08 but all 23 count towards the 85/86 (I can't remember how many right now). If we take 23 and 3 are EE are you saying we can take more? Or did I miss the meaning of the thread and we are just talking about how many recruits will be attributed to this class. Jeez, it just kinda dawned on me that I may have missed the whole point...

 

My understanding of it is the same as yours ctsubalum, 85 is the number and it really doesn't matter how you get there. Weis said that he wanted to try and balance his classes at about 20 (once he builds the talent level back up of course), this leaves a little room for 5th yrs and walk-ons. As far as I know, EE's don't have any real affect on the 85 number, just on the size of each class. I may be wrong in my understanding, but I think thats how it works.

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Tnks NDFan. I think you and I have it the same. An EE is still with his class as far as balancing because he will graduate with the class he was recruited with. So, i'm still not sure what we are talking about here?

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The EE will count toward the earlier class and it allows the classes to be made more even. You don't get more than the 85 total, but if you want to max out a class b/c of talent it will allow you to take more in one year and help balance the classes. Last year was low on numbers allowing the EE to have an effect on this years class.

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Is there an NCAA rule about how many kids can be in a class? If not it doesn't make any sense. It's accounting speak that effectively does nothing. It doesn't really balance anything. A 2008 EE classified in the 2007 recruiting class is still a 2008 recruit in terms of when he will leave.

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25 is the limit, unless your previous years class was under 25. They factor in transfers into that calc, too. But, the grand total for the program is 85.

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