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Guest irishrick

seems like last year it was Texas a couple of years ago, then Florida, Now its California, , i say if i had a choice of kid from California, or Pennsylvania, i would pick the kid from Pennsylvania, simply these coal mine kids Know what hard work is and know what has to be given to make the grade, , California kids on the other hand OFTEN, have things given to them , this might be a perception of city kids vs farmer kids. i will let you decide, , T his why iam sticking with Zach to be one of the qb's at ND. this season. What say you . ? :) :roll:

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So many things wrong w/ that thought process, not sure where to begin. Firstly, not sure of the Texas connection....hasn't been a strong pipeline since Davie left w/ his A&M background, just a few here and there. Reading Rick's post I could only think of a conversation I had w/ a Russian exchange student years ago. He said that he liked America once he saw it firsthand, growing up he thought everyone was spoiled and rich, living in Beverly Hills. Funny how perception and truth contrast when both are exposed. Rarely do people who base their opinions on generalizations have the possibility of weighing both, all they have is perception. Rick, I suggest you find the truth, maybe visit Watts or Compton and then follow up on that post of yours.

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I would pick the kid who is the best athlete and the best character. I don't care where he is from.

 

Where the kid is from shouldnt really account for anything. The league/division they play in is a good indicator of true talent but not what state they are from; especially CA which has small towns, country kids, city kids, desert kids, suburb kids, and everything in between depending on what part of the state. A generalization of a CA kid is not as easy to define as you might think.

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Guest heismancaliber
wow rick so all kids from pa are coal miner kids. so i guess everyone in california is a surfer? come on get out of your bubble. very ignorant thing to say. on the other hand VERY WELL PUT SCOTTY88!!

 

Cowabunga dude!

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The thing about California football, IMO is this...back in 1974 the Los Angeles School District open up the door enough for people to stick their foot in it. They started to bus students from inner city schools to schools in the San Fernando Valley. Until then, the most talented athletic (football) programs (of SoCal) were from the core of the Los Angeles area...period.

 

San Fernando High School was having their way with the whole SFV as a rule. They were a conduit for USC with the likes of Anthony Davis, Charles White and Kevin Williams just to name a few. But then with the busing of students, this all changed. True, the original purpose was to equalize the students academically...but then so did athletic programs...become equal.

 

But then there is a whole different animal going on here, IMO. With the 'private' schools...open enrollment is not only allowed, but they can recruit out of the immediate area. As Oaks Christian did in recruiting Marc Tyler, whose family actually lived in my area...but his address was with Jimmy Clausen's. It's all tolerated, acceptable and for the most part...legal.

 

Teams such as Servite, Mater Dei, Eisenhower, Bishop Amott and so forth have not only established themselves on the field...but they are offering an education with a real chance for college too. These schools mentioned, and several others go out and get the studs to play. Not all are financially able to make tuition. Look, if you have the talent, the grades and your folks are able to place you in a situation to help you succeed...and you want to play at the next level...what would you do? Play at Palmdale High School and go relatively unseen...or go to Notre Dame of Sherman Oaks High School where it is located in USC's back yard?

 

High School football is like boxing in this way...the most talented of player never makes it out of the 'neighborhood' for either lack of grades or the ability to get to where they can play to be noticed. The best boxers in the world are not the ones on television, but the ones who had no one to help finance them at the earliest part of their careers, the most important part...where they needed to travel cross country to be in a nationally recognized tournament?

 

Please understand, I am not a historian. And if my facts about the busing or open enrollment is seemingly off base...know that this is to the best of my understanding. I was a school when the change came...I saw it first hand. With all due respect to all who post and have their opinions on California football...the kids are not handed anything.

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Guest cri8nd

we have been getting a few scouts from D-1 colleges for the last few days here at Palmdale, but its just the players that have the talent never have the grades.

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we have been getting a few scouts from D-1 colleges for the last few days here at Palmdale, but its just the players that have the talent never have the grades.

 

By the way, no disrespect intended towards Palmdale High School...I live in Lancaster and only intended to express an example is all. AV, Quartz Hill and Palmdale have always had the talent, but as you mentioned...the grades are a bit lacking.

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Guest cri8nd

none taken on the disrespect, and i don't think its going to change anytime soon with the grades. though there is one player named walter woods, i don't know if you've heard of him, hopefully he makes it. He is going to be a junior next year and he has what it takes and he has the grades.

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