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shark, you did mention this kid in your report. he was at the NIKE camp at happy valley....... any thoughts????????

shark, you did mention this kid in your report. he was at the NIKE camp at happy valley....... any thoughts????????
Morgan Carter isn't going to be the burner that guys like Michael Floyd and Brice Butler could be. However, Weis had success with Mo Stovall and that is who I "saw" when I watched Carter. He did a great job of catching the ball at it's highest point and has a very long frame.

 

I wouldn't mind seeing him offered.

You don't need burners to win championships. IT kills me all the time when people say that. What you need is a running game, cause if your their front 7 can't stop the running game. That means the safety will creep up. Play action pass, TD!!!!!!!!. I mean last years running game wasn't respected. Our line was at best (and i'm being nice) was mediocre. If we win the battle at the line of scrimmage, you'll be surprised on how fast our recievers will be.

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i agree...and big possession receivers who can block help the running game as well.

I'd gladly take another Stovall type. The man was a beast in the red zone, could stretch the field, had great size, and was a beast blocking.

 

Look at some of Nevin's videos from 05. He sprung Fasano and the shark on a lot of their TD's and drew double coverage a lot. Not to mention some of the ridiculous catches he made. In my opinion he was the best WR Notre Dame has had in years. The shark may hold the records, but he wouldn't have had the numbers without Stovall.

The reason people want to see a burner so bad is because its been a while since we've had an elite one, and because we seem to have trouble recruiting them. We do NOT seem to have trouble recruiting the long, body control, redzone, Stovall type receiver, as I think that Duval Kamara and John Goodman from this class can be very good in that role. Others from previous classes include Rob Parris and Richard Jackson.

 

The bottom line is, while we have been successful at recruiting receivers in that mold, we have failed to consistently recruit a speed compliment. A good offense is built on balance, so having multiple skill sets on the field should be a priority.

 

My hope, along with sucess recruiting speed (starting with this class), is that Richard Jackson and Golden Tate become polished enough to be legitimate receivers. Jackson is still very raw, and Tate is inexperienced at the position, but they definitly have the speed and could add whole new dimensions to the offense.

I think people sleep on Tate. He most likely won't have an impact in his first or maybe even 2nd year, but i think down the line he will be a legitamate threat and will be real good. I expect him to return kickoffs this year with West or AA.

Good post Black Irish. I think you hit the nail on the head with the balanced idea. We talked a lot about complementary skills at running back with the big types (JA, TT and Hughes) to go along with the shiftier guys like AA, but we definitely need that with in our receiving corps too.

 

I'm still anxiously waiting to see what Hord brings in the fall. I'm hoping he is recovered and can get back in football shape enough to make an impact.

Somewhere I heard that an achilles injury takes almost 2 years to fully heal. Hopefully Hord can have an impact this season.

I read that he looked to be full tilt in drills and practice, but appeared rusty. Not surprising since he has to re-learn timing and get confidence back in catching the ball and taking contact.

I heard the same about how he was rusty. I also read an article and Hord said that his calf muscle became a blob of skin.

Hord will be skiddish till he takes his first good hit in front of the fans and is able to get up from it. Sometimes you just gotta get smacked around to know your healty again.

Yeah i had a buddy on my team tear his ACL and other things and came back Sr. year not the same player and it took him a while to feel confortable. He was our best receiver as a jr. and a non factor sr. year, plays mind games.

While we may not be able to sight specifics, I think somewhere in the back of our heads we remember what Matt Shelton did for our offense. In 2004, he didn't make a ton of catches (just 20), but averaged 25 YPC, with 6 TD's. He had that kind of speed to take some of the attention of our possession guys. IMO, I think big possession receivers are typically ideal for the college game as starters, with a speedy slot guy or two to draw attention away from safeties. Thats what most fans are hoping for when they long for a "burner".

 

We can get by with just big guys, but we want some diversity, to allow us to exploit defenses through different means, and take our attack to another level.

i know i've sounded like a downer on here lately but this is another guy I'm in no rush to get excited about. Seems like a plan b option all the way. Looks like a less talented Kamara. I will say, however, that he seems to have a great head on his shoulders and a great attitude/work ethic.

 

And whoever brought up Tate, I also expect G Tate to have a lot impact as a frosh, as much as anyone other than Jimmy if he wins the QB job. I bet you hear Charlie raving about all the great things he can do during training camp. He's the kind of kid that will contribute in everyway asked of him (even on special teams when he's not receiving the ball). He seems like a Holtz player to me

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