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1. QB Terrelle Pryor- Jeanette (PA) Jeannette

2. WR Julio Jones-Foley (AL) Foley

3. LB Arthur Brown-Wichita (KS) East

4. WR A.J. Green-Summerville (SC) Summerville-Committed to UGA

5. S Will Hill-Jersey City (NJ) St. Peter’s Prep

6. OT Stephen Good Paris (TX) Paris-Committed to Oklahoma

7. RB Darrell Scott-Ventura (CA) St. Bonaventure

8. CB T.J. Bryant-Tallahasse (FL) Lincoln

9. DT DaQuan Bowers-Bamberg (SC) Bamberg-Ehrhardt-Clemson Commit

10. OT Michael Brewster-Orlando (FL) Edgewater-Committed to Ohio St.

11. LB Nigel Bradham-Crawfordville (FL) Wakulla-Committed to FSU

12. RB Jermie Calhoun-Van (TX) Van-Committed to Oklahoma

13. CB Patrick Johnson-Pompano Beach (FL) Ely-Committed to Miami

14. LB Shayne Hale-Monroeville (PA) Gateway

15. OT Michael Adams-Dublin (OH) Coffman-Committed to Ohio St.

16. DE R.J. Washington-Keller (TX) Fossil Ridge-Oklahoma Commit

17. S Rahim Moore- Los Angeles (CA) Dorsey-Committed to UCLA

18. ATH Richard Samuel- Cartersville (GA) Cass-Committed to UGA

19. CB Boubacar Cissoko-Detroit (MI) Cass Tech-Committed to Michigan

20. DE Ethan Johnson-Portland (OR) Lincoln

21. DT Marcus Forston-Miami (FL) Northwestern

22. DE Robert Quinn-North Charleston (SC) Fort Dorchester

23. QB Andrew Luck-Houston (TX) Stratford

24. DT DeAngelo Tyson-Statesboro (GA) Statesboro-Committed to UGA

25. WR Michael Floyd-St. Paul (MN) Cretin-Derham Hall

26. DE Wes Horton-Sherman Oaks (CA) Notre Dame-Committed to USC

27. TE Blake Ayles-Orange (CA) Orange Lutheran

28. WR Aldarius Johnson-Miami (FL) Northwestern

29. QB E.J. Manuel-Virginia Beach (VA) Bayside High

30. RB Milton Knox-Lake Balboa (CA) Birmingham

31. ATH D.J. Shoemate-Anaheim (CA) Servite-Committed to USC

32. WR Dan Buckner-Allen (TX) Allen-Committed to Texas

33. LB Etienne Sabino-Miami (FL) Krop

34. OL Vinston Painter-Norfolk (VA) Maury

35. QB Dayne Crist-Sherman Oaks (CA) Notre Dame-Committed to ND

36. OL Kyle Long-Charlottesville (VA) St. Anne’s-Belfield

37. WR Kenny Tate-Hyattsville (MD) Dematha

38. ATH Ryan Williams-Manassas (VA) Stonewall Jackson

39. DE Chauncey Aguyhere-Garland (TX) Garland

40. OL Josh Jenkins-Vienna (WV) Parkersburg-Committed to WVU

41. WR DeSean Hales- Klein (TX) Oak

42. OL Baker Steinkuhler-Lincoln (NE) Southwest-Committed to Nebraska

43. TE Kyle Rudolph-Cincinatti (OH) Elder-Committed to Notre Dame

44. ATH Devoe Torrence-Canton (OH) South-Committed to Ohio State

45. OL Tyler Love-Moutain Brook (AL) Moutain Brook

46. OL Matt Kalil-Anaheim Servite-Committed to USC

47. RB Brandon Barnes-Bunn (NC) Bunn High

48. CB Terrance Parks-Fairburn (GA) Creekside

49. DT Minacor Regis-Pahokee (FL) Pahokee-Committed to Miami

50. TE Brandon Moore-Trotwood (OH) Madison

51. RB Eric Smith- Seffner (FL) Armwood

52. S Nolan Brewster-Committed to Texas

53. WR Tavarres King-Mt. Airy (GA) Habersham Central

54. WR DeAndre Brown- Ocean Springs (MS) Ocean Springs

55. LB Steven Filer-Chicago (IL) Chicago Mt. Carmel

56. CB Aaron Williams-Round Rock (TX) McNeil-Committed to Texas

57. OL A.J. Harmon-Louisville (GA) Jefferson County

58. TE Kavario Middleton-Lakewood (WA) Lakes

59. QB Blaine Gibbert- Ballwin (MO) Parkway West

60. OL Matt Patchan-Seffner (FL) Armwood

61. OL Tyron Smith-Moreno Valley (CA) Ranch Verde

62. ATH Gerrell Robinson-Committed to Arizona

63. TE Jonathan Baldwin-Aliquippa (PA) Aliquippa

64. CB Xavier Brewer- Jacksonville (FL) Bartram Trail

65. WR Daryl Stonum-Sugar Land (TX) Fort Bend Dulles

66. LB Lentree McCray-Dunnellon (FL) Dunnellon

67. WR Deion Walker- Christchurch (VA) Christchurch School

68. WR Chris Tolliver-Rayville (LA) Rayville

69. WR Dejuan Miller-Metuchen (NJ) Metuchen

70. QB Landy Jones- Artesia (NM) Artesia-Committed to Oklahoma

71. LB Darius Fleming-Illinois (IL) St. Rita’s-Committed to Notre Dame

72. LB Jon Major-Parker (CO) Ponderosa

73. ATH Burton Scott-Prichard (AL) Vigor

74. DE Daonte Jones-Compton (CA) Compton High-Committed to UCLA

75. OL J.B. Shugarts- Klein (TX) Klein-Committed to Ohio St.

76. OL Lucas Nix-Jefferson Hills (PA) Thomas Jefferson

77. OL Greg Shaw-Miami (FL) Pace

78. OL David Snow- Gilmer (TX) Gilmer-Committed to Texas

79. LB Maurice Simmons-Compton (CA) Dominguez-Committed to USC

80. TE Jacob Stoneburner-Dublin (OH) Coffman-Committed to Ohio State

81. DT Sean Cwynar- Woodstock (IL) Marian Central-Committed to ND

82. LB Bruce Taylor-Myrtle Beach (SC) Myrtle Beach-Committed to VT

83. LB Nigel Carr- Jacksonville (FL) First Coast-Committed to FSU

84. WR Cordale Scott-Cleveland (OH) Glenville

85. OL Brandon Washington-Miami (FL) Northwestern-Committed to Miami

86. LB Terrell Manning- Laurinburg (NC) Scotland County

87. DT Reggie Ellis-Washington (D.C.) Dunbar

88. ATH Justin Johnson-Gilmer (TX) Gilmer-Committed to Oklahoma

89. LB Brandon Beal-Roxbury (NJ) Roxbury

90. DE Quinton Coples- Kinston (NC) Kinston

91. ATH Sam McGuffie-Cypress (TX) Cy-Fair

92. DE Everette Thompson- Burien (WA) Kennedy

93. WR Brice Butler-Norcross (GA) Norcross High

94. WR Melvin Ray- Tallahassee (FL) North Florida Christian

95. TE Brandon Moore-Trotwood (OH) Madison High

96. LB Jordan Futch-Hollywood-Chaminade Madonna

97. OL Art Forst- Manasquan (NJ) Manasquan

98. WR Robert Blanton-Matthews (NC) Butler

99. S E.J. Woods-Encino (CA) Crespi-Commited to UCLA

100. OL Khaled Holmes- Santa Ana (CA) Mater Dei

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Very balanced list. Nice work shark.

 

That top 4 is just crazy though. Any one of those guys can be #1, they're all so damn impressive on film. It will be very tough to have a consensus #1 overall player this year.

 

Pretty soon the Rivals 100 will be out, and we'll see how close you were to the "experts".

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Shark, 2 quick questions

 

why Ayles higher than Rudolph?

 

why Ethan Johnson higher than Forston?

 

I may disagree with some of the rankings but i give you all the credit in the world for taking the time to make it, good stuff

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Shark, 2 quick questions

 

why Ayles higher than Rudolph?

I based the rankings on a lot of things (Tapes, analysts opinions, offer lists, etc...). Most of the analysts seem to agree that Ayles is the top TE in the nation and I tend to agree with them. Don't get me wrong, I'm pumped we have Rudolph, but I like Ayles a tad better. Kyle needs to fill out a bit. IMO, Ayles seems more ready for the next level.

 

why Ethan Johnson higher than Forston?
Johnson is higher than Forston has more to do with how much I like Johnson than it does with what I think of Forston. Johnson's tapes are very impressive and doesn't have the luxury of playing on an all-star team like Forston does.
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Shark, 2 quick questions

 

why Ayles higher than Rudolph?

I based the rankings on a lot of things (Tapes, analysts opinions, offer lists, etc...). Most of the analysts seem to agree that Ayles is the top TE in the nation and I tend to agree with them. Don't get me wrong, I'm pumped we have Rudolph, but I like Ayles a tad better. Kyle needs to fill out a bit. IMO, Ayles seems more ready for the next level.

 

why Ethan Johnson higher than Forston?
Johnson is higher than Forston has more to do with how much I like Johnson than it does with what I think of Forston. Johnson's tapes are very impressive and doesn't have the luxury of playing on an all-star team like Forston does.

 

Interesting perspective, thanks for the reply

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also, a few things to edit (i know u know all this already)

 

Mike Brewster - Ohio St

Patrick Johnson - Miami

Wes Horton - USC

DJ Shoemate - USC

Maurice Simmons - USC

Nigel Carr - Florida St

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Shark, how good is Brandon Moore?

 

He is the 50th best player and the 95th? I mean if he goes to ND does that mean we have two more top 100 players :-)

 

and by the way I do disagree with Blake Ayles and Rudolph. I think more analysts think that Rudolph is better.

 

Other than that, no problems..good list.

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Out of the remaining candidates that are uncommitted which ones are to be considered "solid" for ND? Or which ones do we have the best shot at nabbing?

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Has anyone else put Cwynar in the top 100 or is that a little bit of ND loyalty showing through?

 

I've got to say I like our class so far, but I would like 1 or 2 out of the top 20. And it is possible that we get none. Perhaps this time we put out too many offers too early? Just thinking out loud. Of course, for the sake of full disclosure, I admit to being one of those people who thought we put out too few last year. In the world of recruiting, is it possible we went from being Father Bear to Baby Bear and skipped over the "just right" formula?

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Has anyone else put Cwynar in the top 100 or is that a little bit of ND loyalty showing through?

 

I've got to say I like our class so far, but I would like 1 or 2 out of the top 20. And it is possible that we get none. Perhaps this time we put out too many offers too early? Just thinking out loud. Of course, for the sake of full disclosure, I admit to being one of those people who thought we put out too few last year. In the world of recruiting, is it possible we went from being Father Bear to Baby Bear and skipped over the "just right" formula?

 

I also like the class so far, and like you, I thought we put too few offers out last year, but that may have been because we thought we had a whole bunch of "silent verbals" that didn't pan out.

 

I think on another thread, Charlie Weis was quoted that he offers a recruit based on three qualities - character, academics and football... in that order(?). So, I think this year, Charlie is loading up on high integrity, team-oriented kids who can balance academics and football.

 

And so far, it's working... the early recruit acceptances this year seem to be a slightly higher calibre (per recruiting analyss) than last year... so you can't dispute the approach.

 

Another thought, for all we know... the glut of offers may not be as generous as it seems, perhaps there are hidden restrictions .. Eg. he offers 8 OL (for argument's sake), but only 2 of those have an offer to NSD, whereas it's first-come, first-served for the other 3 slots among he other 6 offerees.

 

I tend to think these rankings are restricitve, based mostly on demonstrated, or potential, football prowess... but character counts a long, long way.

 

Would you, for instance, take a 3* athlete with 5* drive/ethic/character than a 5* athlete with 2 or 3* drive/ethic/character.

 

I think that 5* character person will get more out of their 3* athleticism than vice-versa... plus, for the team, they'll make others better too.

 

I think a good example is Mike Richardson... worked his tail off... got drafted.

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nice post 1qa and I see what you're saying. Mike Richardson was a very hard worker and he definitely got better for us as he got more experience and playing time at corner, for a while there he was basically toasted every play but he really improved and turned things around by this past year.

 

Anyways, I see what you are saying about character and work ethic, two very important parts of football (I.E. we would not like to have a bunch of scumbags that will curb stomp an opposing player), however CW is not a miracle worker and its simply naive to believe we will be able to compete with and beat elite teams with average talent. I'm not blasting anyone we have, just saying what I've said all along, fans of Notre Dame football, the game, want players and teams that can compete and ultimately win. All 85 guys on scholarship could be saints and receive the Noble Peace Prize, but if they are losing by 3 TDs to USC or Michigan, nobody is gonna care that they are hard workers or good character guys.

 

As Sean Connery once said, "losers whine about why they didn't win, winners go home and f*ck the prom queen" haha

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