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Feel free to give your opinion on my list:

 

QB-Dayne Crist****6.0

WR-John Goodman****5.8

TE-Kyle Rudolph****6.0

TE-Joseph Fauria****5.8

OT-Lane Clelland****5.8

OG-Mike Golic Jr.***5.6

C-Braxton Cave***5.7

DE-Sean Cwynar****5.9

DE-Hafis Williams****5.8

LB-David Posluszny****5.8

LB-Anthony McDonald****5.8

LB-Darius Fleming****6.0

 

 

Here's my reasoning behind my rankings:

 

6.0 Rated Commits-Rudolph and Fleming are top 100 guys, so that's why I gave them 6.0 rankings. Crist is the number 1 QB in Cali and if you look over the years, the top QB in Cali is usally ranked very high.

 

5.9 Rated Commits-Cwynar is a Rivals 250 prospect and I think he's definitely top 10 in the nation at his position.

 

5.8 Rated Commits-All of these guys are Rivals 250 prospects, except for Goodman. The reason I gave him 4*'s is because every year the top prospect in Indiana is at least a 4*.

 

5.7 Rated Commits-I gave Cave 3*'s because I think being from IN and not having that impressive of an offer list will hurt his ranking.

 

5.6 Rated Commits-Just like Cave, I think Golic's playing football in CT will definitely hurt ranking, along with his only other offer being from CT.

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i think crist will stay at 6 or above when he plays a full year. he'll be 5 star. i think rudolph, from everything i've heard, will remain a 5 star as well.

 

i think they will end up ranking goodman pretty low, especially since he's going to be playing QB this year and not have much more of a chance to impress people.

 

i have no idea what cave is going to get but he's a true center and i love that he's committed. Clelland also seems like a guy who's all potential right now, just cause he's small. I have no idea how to grade O linemen.

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Pretty good list, i agree with most of them

 

(i'm just gonna do this by stars)

 

Crist - 5 star. Top CA QB (although UCLA didn't really go after him, which is odd) Its a weak year for QB so by default he's probably top 2 at the position. As someone who knows CA HS ball decently, he's still very much a raw prospect because of the injuries he's suffered. However this is a great fit at QB because i expect probably Frazer to transfer, and Crist will fill his spot plus be the heir apparent to JC while he learns the QB position better

 

Goodman - 3 star. Will be a role player at ND most likely. Offer list isn't really much to write home about. He'll be compared to Shark because he's white which isn't really fair, but i think he could be a Brian Finneran type

 

Rudolph - 5 star. Top 2 at the position, great size, rich getting richer at TE. With his height he's gonna be a monster in the red zone. I love how his blocking is one of his greatest assets.

 

Fauria - 3 star. Pretty decent prospect but i feel he's overrated because of Christian. Its a deep year nationally at TE and there are prospects i like better. His offers are pretty decent i will say. Will be a Marcus Freeman type 2nd TE/role player

 

Clelland - 4 star. Good offer list and always nice to add depth to the OLine. He'll need to bulk up obviously but that shoudn't be a problem

 

Golic Jr - 3 star. With his offer list, a 3 star is actually kinda generous. This guy will be a sentimental favorite because of his dad, and its always good seeing a kid live out his dream. Seems the type who will give his all simply because he loves the school, and you can't help but like a kid like that.

 

Cave - 3 star. Offer list not that impressive, but his role as a recruiter has already paid dividends so far so that alone has been incredibly valuable. Great size means he could probably play either G or C which gives the staff huge flexibility recruiting wise.

 

Cwynar - 4 star. Nice midwest prospect here. Great size and a tremendous motor. Its a bit concerning that one of his listed weaknesses is "Quickness off the ball" because thats something you obviously want for a DE, but like Cave he has the flexibility to play anywhere on the line.

 

Williams - 3 star. Regional offer list plus there's not a lot available on him. To play NT he's gonna need to bulk up.

 

Posluszny - 3 star. Not particularly that fast for the position and if i'm not mistaken plays safety for his HS team, so he's gonna have to adjust to a new position which is always underrated. Good bloodlines obviously. Offer list not that great but decent enough.

 

McDonald - 4 star. Great size for his position, and good speed although i hope he goes to a combine so he can verify that 4.55. I don't think he's the "top LB in the west" like some have been claiming, however because of how he fits our scheme its still a damn important pickup.

 

Fleming - 4 star. Brings the type of athleticism we have been lacking on D. Perfect fit for the 3-4 but would be a huge pickup even if we ran the 4-3. Good consolation for losing Tez last year.

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I know its a little off topic, but what are the plans for Cave and Golic respectively? I know when they just had Golic, they were recruiting him primarily as a center. Then they brought in Cave. Both are natural centers, and both sound very apt at playing their position. Cave sounds like he's great physical fit right now, whereas Golic sounds like he's very apt at calling out defenses, and handling the mental capacities of the position.

 

Since both have been listed at C and G, with Golic even being listed at T by some services, whats the plan for both these guys?

 

And as for rankings, two comments:

 

- Posluszny was a HS safety for most of his career. He switched to LB, but only played there 4 games before injury. This year he's penciled in as their ILB, so the transition thing won't be as big of a deal if plays there all season without serious injury. His final ranking depends on his senior year.

 

- Cave is probably going to get 3 stars, but only because of his recruitment ended so early. Right before he pulled the trigger, some teams like Michigan and Florida were starting to nibble, so in his instance, the offer list thing should be taken with a grain of salt. A similar parallel could be drawn to Kerry Neal, who ended things early, and didn't have a stunning offer list himself.

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1. QB-Dayne Crist- 5 star, didn't even get to play a full season last year.

 

2. WR-John Goodman- 3 star just like was said earlier because he will be moving to QB this year.

 

3. TE-Kyle Rudolph- 5 star. One of the top 2 best TE's in the country this year.

 

4. TE-Joseph Fauria- 4 star, don't really understand why it was said that he got a high ranking because of his uncle who has nothing to do with people ranking him. Watch his video and tell me he's not a SOLID 4 star and has an impressive list of offers as well.

 

5. OT-Lane Clelland- 4 star, great offer list, wrestler in great shape, very solid and can spot this guy an easy 40 extra pounds without losing a step. a GREAT project.

 

6. OG-Mike Golic Jr.- 3 star- People sleep on this kid because he's a legacy from Conn. I am willing to bet now that he will be the hardest worker coming into ND. He will put on solid weight and take no days off and I know he will be a starting gaurd for us by his (RS)Jr. year because of work ethic that will take him to that next level.

 

7. C-Braxton Cave- 4 star- I don't really understand the statement about his offer list. He had an early offer from Michigan and we snagged him up all the while Florida was recruiting him hard. Watch his film and then tell me when it's all said and done he won't be a solid 4 star center.

 

8. DE-Sean Cwynar- 4 star- Very solid player. Will problably be ranked and graded as a DT even though he'll be our DE.

 

9. DE-Hafis Williams- 4 star- Has some good offers, comes from a very good football school in a rough area. Kid truely wants to do something with his life, haven't seem film on him but gives us just want we need on the DL.

 

10. LB-David Posluszny- 4 star- Missed almost all of his Jr. season and still has many offers. Seen him play and the kid likes to hit, he is about almost 6'2 and definently 215. He won't be an immediate impact player for us, but definently a solid one to get all these offers from not playing much ball last year. After a solid year at LB this year he will be upgraded to 4 star.

 

11. LB-Anthony McDonald- 4 star with 5 star potential- Our best True linebacker prospect this year. This kid has a bodybuilding body with great instincts. Loves to lift and when comparing him to Andrew Sweat i thought McDonald was on a whole nother level.

 

12. OLB-Darius Fleming- 4 star- The Kerry Neal of this class, very versatile and very good speed for his size. Like McDonald a 4 star with 5 star potential, recieved an offer from USC all the way from Illinois.

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I probably should've been more clear about this, my rankings are predictions of Rivals, not Scout. The reason I'm saying this is because Scout gives out a lot more 5*'s than Rivals. I see you guys listing Rudolph as a 5*, Rudolph is a 5* lock on Scout, but Rivals hasn't been known to give 5*'s to many TE's.

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I probably should've been more clear about this, my rankings are predictions of Rivals, not Scout. The reason I'm saying this is because Scout gives out a lot more 5*'s than Rivals. I see you guys listing Rudolph as a 5*, Rudolph is a 5* lock on Scout, but Rivals hasn't been known to give 5*'s to many TE's.

 

My rankings are more based on my opinion than trying to predict Scout or Rivals. Scout is too liberal when it comes to stars and Rivals is too South-oriented

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I've been an ND fan all of my life, I never miss games. I've been watching Rutgers since Schiano got there a few years ago. I was getting tired of his excuses when giving away games, but he finally turned it around and IMO developes players better than any coach in the country. ND plays RU in a few short years and I will be 110% rooting for ND. I am from Jersey and have followed them before they were remotley good, but they aren't even in the same Galaxy as ND to me.

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Dayne Crist-4 star will battle to get into rivals 100

 

John Goodman-3 star not a great WR prospect but good and has enough athleticism and size to earn three stars

 

Kyle Rudolph-4 star on rivals, 5 star on Scout, but will be in top 100 in both.

 

Joesph Fauria-4 star and probably top 6-8 TE nationally

 

Lane Cellend-4 star, good athlete and tough kid will earn 4 star and push for rivals 250 status

 

Braxton Cave-3 star, tough interior player but probably will be a fringe recruit and close to a 4, but will fall just short

 

Mike Golic Jr-3 star, kid was offered by Florida I believe and likley if he had not committed so early he would have some more.

 

Hafis Williams-4 star, This is off reputation and what has been said but once film comes out it will be easier to judge

 

Sean Cwynar-4 star, probably a lock for this, and close to top 100

 

Darius Fleming-4 star and if he keeps improving I think 5 star is not out of reach.

 

Anthony McDonald-4 star kid on Scout will be in top 100 probably but in rivals probably a 250 kid.

 

David Poz-4 star kid, I compare him to Paskorz athletically but has played LB more then Paskorz and has better name and offers early. He will be a low 4 but will be up there.

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Dayne Crist-4 star will battle to get into rivals 100

 

John Goodman-3 star not a great WR prospect but good and has enough athleticism and size to earn three stars

 

Kyle Rudolph-4 star on rivals, 5 star on Scout, but will be in top 100 in both.

 

Joesph Fauria-4 star and probably top 6-8 TE nationally

 

Lane Cellend-4 star, good athlete and tough kid will earn 4 star and push for rivals 250 status

 

Braxton Cave-3 star, tough interior player but probably will be a fringe recruit and close to a 4, but will fall just short

 

Mike Golic Jr-3 star, kid was offered by Florida I believe and likley if he had not committed so early he would have some more.

 

Hafis Williams-4 star, This is off reputation and what has been said but once film comes out it will be easier to judge

 

Sean Cwynar-4 star, probably a lock for this, and close to top 100

 

Darius Fleming-4 star and if he keeps improving I think 5 star is not out of reach.

 

Anthony McDonald-4 star kid on Scout will be in top 100 probably but in rivals probably a 250 kid.

 

David Poz-4 star kid, I compare him to Paskorz athletically but has played LB more then Paskorz and has better name and offers early. He will be a low 4 but will be up there.

Good work Rob.

 

I'm telling you guys, as long as one of our Indiana commits ends up the top player in the state, we'll definitely have one of them be a 4*.

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Dayne Crist-4 star will battle to get into rivals 100

 

John Goodman-3 star not a great WR prospect but good and has enough athleticism and size to earn three stars

 

Kyle Rudolph-4 star on rivals, 5 star on Scout, but will be in top 100 in both.

 

Joesph Fauria-4 star and probably top 6-8 TE nationally

 

Lane Cellend-4 star, good athlete and tough kid will earn 4 star and push for rivals 250 status

 

Braxton Cave-3 star, tough interior player but probably will be a fringe recruit and close to a 4, but will fall just short

 

Mike Golic Jr-3 star, kid was offered by Florida I believe and likley if he had not committed so early he would have some more.

 

Hafis Williams-4 star, This is off reputation and what has been said but once film comes out it will be easier to judge

 

Sean Cwynar-4 star, probably a lock for this, and close to top 100

 

Darius Fleming-4 star and if he keeps improving I think 5 star is not out of reach.

 

Anthony McDonald-4 star kid on Scout will be in top 100 probably but in rivals probably a 250 kid.

 

David Poz-4 star kid, I compare him to Paskorz athletically but has played LB more then Paskorz and has better name and offers early. He will be a low 4 but will be up there.

 

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I more or less agree with robdog_5 but here's my $0.02

 

 

Dayne Crist-I think he will make a push for being the #1 QB in the nation and I think he could easily end up being a 5 star but at worst he's going to be 4 star prospect.

 

John Goodman-3 star, make no mistake he's a project, a 5 year player that they hope they can turn into Jeff Samardzija.

 

Kyle Rudolph-5 star, IMO from what I've seen and/or heard, read that he's the #1 TE in the nation.

 

Joesph Fauria-4 star, His best days are ahead of him. He's a smart kid with great hands and you can't go wrong with that. He doesn't have instant star ability that Ragone and Rudolph have if needed but by the time he's an upperclassman and he's toughened up, he will be a force.

 

Lane Cellend-No worse than a 4 star prospect. I think he's one of the best OT in the class and I think when his college career is over I'll be proven right but who know's how these recruiting guru at these sites will see and rate him. I think he's a 5 star prospect.

 

Braxton Cave-3 star, I've yet to see him but some I've talked to swear that he will be the steal of the class and another one that might not be a sexy pickup but one that will prove out in the end.

 

Mike Golic Jr-3 star that should be a $ star IMO, he's a kid I've seen and think when his time comes that he will be quite good. His ranking is unjust IMO because he won't get the credit he deserves so early and the fact that he doesn't play the toughest competition in Connecticut.

 

Hafis Williams-4 star, I love this kid and I don't think he get's the respect he deserves and while I'm no expert I think he's top DT(3-4 DE), somewhere in the top #4 to #8 range.

 

Sean Cwynar-4 star, I've only seen video footage and I love what I see, a top DT without question.

 

Darius Fleming-4 star and if he keeps improving I think 5 star is not out of reach. That's what robdog said and I agree 100%.

 

Anthony McDonald-4 star, Another kid I love after seeing on film and without question a top LB. I rate him highly and maybe even 5 stars but as a good as he is he's not in the same class as Arthur Brown and Shane Hale especially Brown but not may players at any level have the talent that those 2 do IMO.

 

David Posluszny-4 star, I agree with robdog_5 in the comparison to Paskorz. He's like his brother and is just winner, a football player. There will be plenty of players that are more talented than him but he will be the better player. I don't think he will be an instant impact player and because he's not that sexy type recruit with sick number he won't get a top ranking but when it comes to the game he will be heads and shoulder better than most of the more talented players.

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