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While I don't really agree with it, there was really no other way to go. Whether you feel that pot should be legal or not, the University has set a precedent in these types of cases in the past (RPN). While it will hurt the team this year, he will be able to reapply to the University next fall (if I understand this correctly). Also, who push comes to shove, we ND fans as a collective whole, get upset when players at other schools get in trouble and don't miss any playing time, or very little. Now when the shoe is on the other foot......

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Except Powers-Neal got a DUI, and was only kicked off from the team. He graduated from Notre Dame.

 

As I stated, if I understand correctly, Kyle would be able to reapply to the University in the fall.

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Yeah, I don't like it when other schools do nothing. I'm not saying do nothing.

 

Suspend him for the rest of the season. Keep him at ND, allow him to abide by his court order and as long as he stays clean and out of trouble allow him to get an oppurtunity to play again next season. I'm not sayin give Kyle a free pass.

 

 

But there needs to be somekind of forgiveness. He needs to be allowed to have a pennance and serve it.

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Yeah, I don't like it when other schools do nothing. I'm not saying do nothing.

 

Suspend him for the rest of the season. Keep him at ND, allow him to abide by his court order and as long as he stays clean and out of trouble allow him to get an oppurtunity to play again next season. I'm not sayin give Kyle a free pass.

 

 

But there needs to be somekind of forgiveness. He needs to be allowed to have a pennance and serve it.

 

I agree with you, suspend him for the season, but allow him to continue his education. It just seems that on a lot of ND boards people are crying foul, when his summer people scream bloody murder at OSU, or Miami, etc.

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Total PR move here by Notre Dame. Trying to set itself apart from everyone else. Jarvis Moss from UF gets caught with a higher quantity of pot and is only suspended one game (Yes, against Western Carolina). Ruining a 19-20 year old kids life for a half a joint is a gutless move by the adminstration. If you want to be tough, suspend him for the spring semester, allow him to continue working out with the team and support group, and allow him to make up his credits over the summer. But a first offense death penalty goes against any notion of fairness and justice that we have. These "holier than thou" decisions reveal why other fans dislike Notre Dame.

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As far as his education goes, I would of liked to see him continue it, but as far as basketball goes, after hearing about it I had one thought in my mind, and that was I dont want him in uniform if hes going to be doing things like that...thats why we are Notre Dame and not some bull sh** university who would suspend him for a few games, period.

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Ruining a 19-20 year old kids life for a half a joint is a gutless move by the adminstration. If you want to be tough' date=' suspend him for the spring semester, allow him to continue working out with the team and support group, and allow him to make up his credits over the summer. But a first offense death penalty goes against any notion of fairness and justice that we have. These "holier than thou" decisions reveal why other fans dislike Notre Dame.[/quote']

marijuana is an illegal drug and if you get caught with it you better get ready for the hammer to get thrown down. this kid ruined his own life, he choose to break the law and now he has to pay for his actions. i don't feel sorry for anyone who decides to go off and smoke pot, his actions clearly showed he cared more about getting high rather than his education and basketball.

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Ruining a 19-20 year old kids life for a half a joint is a gutless move by the adminstration. If you want to be tough' date=' suspend him for the spring semester, allow him to continue working out with the team and support group, and allow him to make up his credits over the summer. But a first offense death penalty goes against any notion of fairness and justice that we have. These "holier than thou" decisions reveal why other fans dislike Notre Dame.[/quote']

marijuana is an illegal drug and if you get caught with it you better get ready for the hammer to get thrown down. this kid ruined his own life, he choose to break the law and now he has to pay for his actions. i don't feel sorry for anyone who decides to go off and smoke pot, his actions clearly showed he cared more about getting high rather than his education and basketball.

easy russ, remember he's just a kid who used poor judgement. look at your president for christ's sake.....
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bfabes, I'm sure YOU NEVER did anything against DuLac/ResLife while you were at school....Come on man, get real. There are plenty of guys on all are sports teams that get drunk and/or drive under the influence and/or smoke pot and/or have premarital sex. You cheer for them everyday, whether they get caught or not.

 

Not to mention, if you look at the severity of all those offenses, Driving under the influence puts others at danger, while possessing pot does not. The penalty doesn't match the crime, I don't know how you can justify it.

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If Notre Dame really felt so strongly about marijuana use being so terrible, then they should test every student.

 

It's not like there aren't any kids there that use it.

 

Too harsh a penalty for half a blunt. It's not like he was caught driving with Larry Allen.

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I think i understand the situation here.

 

We are not here to discuss underage drinking or use of pot or illega drugs.

 

I did not make any of those laws i may have voted for them one way or the other.

 

What we are discussing here is wether or not you think it illegal, crime or what have you is a rule.

 

There is a simple easy "NO SMOKING" in my area. I violate it it's my ass as the rule is layed down. Yeah i can take it all the way to the supreme court, but why shouldn't this place i want to be have rules and why not punish me if i break em??? :D

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There is a simple easy "NO SMOKING" in my area. I violate it it's my ass as the rule is layed down. Yeah i can take it all the way to the supreme court, but why shouldn't this place i want to be have rules and why not punish me if i break em??? :D

thats a good point john. he know that smoking pot was wrong and against school rules but he decided to go ahead anyway. we all know what the rules are and what would happen if we break those rules, it's just some people always have to learn the hard way.

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you guys might be takin this over the top.

 

How can you not have a problem with torchin a kid over half a blunt?

 

Put yourselves in his shoes.

 

Would you want the hammer to be so harsh?

 

If it was legal would you have a problem with it?

 

Just because it's illegal you wanna take the punsihment to the extreme?

 

So, it's OK, fine to drink and get drunk and not be able to walk, but smokin a blunt is so terrible? gimme a break

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The legal/illegal question is a stretch in this instance. If you are under the age of 21 in the state of Indiana and consume any amount of alcohol you are breaking the law. I am not sure what the rules on campus are now but when I was there in the early 90's underage drinking was tolerated as long as you were on campus and remained in a dorm room.

 

I do not think any of us would support a sweep of the dorms on a Friday evening and a mass suspension of all freshman and sophomore student athletes.

 

ND is a special place and the fact that she holds herself and her students to a higher standard is one of the primary reasons I am so proud to be an alum. But this punishment is too much in my opinion, especially for a student (remove the athlete for this situation) who by all indications has had no other issues before or since this episode. Would you agree with the ruling if this were your 19 year old son or daughter?

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