So, ND lands a BCS bowl and a tidy 12 million dollars . . . but wait, not so fast. Due to the ingenious moves by the beloved (cough, cough) athletic director, ND gets only 2 million. For those who have passed over this, here's a reminder. Kev agrees to a "deal" that limits ND to 2 million for a bowl appearance. Why? Cause Kev has such faith in Charlie's machine that he was afraid ND may not be getting to any BCS bowl game (12 million) with any regularity, so he agreed to give up the BCS $ for a guaranteed 2 million. This "deal" has been in effect for exactly one year and has already cost ND 10 million dollars. Yeah, next year it may pay off since a BCS isn't likely, but how about after that? Does anyone think ND will be a stranger to the BCS with the recruiting haul Charlie is getting? So, a big thankyou to Kev who always has ND's best interest at heart (yeah, that's sarcasm).

Why only $2M? Is there a bowl out there that pays THAT little?? I am not trying to be greedy, mind you, but what's the point??

Hey NicePost I can't agree more with you. It was the subject of two articles by me which was BEFORE we got to this bowl and actually drop 10 million in reality. AD White said "it was good for the BCS" which made me wonder at the time why should ND care? The biz should be "is it good for Notre Dame."

 

Too darn late NOW but if we all start 'bitching' stay on top with Weis let's restructure this stupid contranct.

I'm not trying to be an a-hole or anything, but honestly, who cares how much money they get for a bowl?

Notre Dame is already making a ton of money from television, merchandise, donations, tuition, etc.

It's the obligation of an athletic director to do what is best for his school, just as a CEO has an obligation to his company. Are the Irish hurting for money? No, but it's not the point. We could increase the pay of every faculty member at ND, further support financial aid for incoming students who don't have the means to pay for an ND education, and dare I say it, not raise ND tuition rates as high as every other university seems to do, just to name a few things that ND could do with the money.

Alas, I was somewhat off with my numbers. ND gets a guaranteed $1 million a year if they don't go to a bowl, and $4.5 million if they go to a BCS bowl, so ND gets 4.5 million this year for the Sugar Bowl. Now, the payout for the sugar bowl PER team this year is $17 million! So Kev has already cost ND 12.5 million in the first year of this assinine contract which extends until 2010. Again, great move Kev, you ass.

I understand atlanta. It's the principle of the thing to me. In general it works out as say, LSU has to share with all their confernce teams. The principal is we used to get another 10 million and now don't. Anytime we DON'T make any bowl we get a million.

I think Kevin was suffering from Ty-Syndrome. Fear of winning...

Now wait a minute. Before we get carried away here. First of all, the other teams are all in a conference and that means that the $17 million that team gets is shared with every team in their conference. The BCS TOLD ND that the current system was going to be changed. If you recall, the BCS was formed by and is currently run by the 6 major conferences (which we are a member of none). They all agreed that ND needs to have a place in the system. In order for us to hold onto our preferential elegibility they wanted to change the way the money gets paid. The BCS wanted us to get paid in line with what other schools in conferences actually got paid from a bcs bowl. We told them that if that's the case then we deserve guaranteed money just like a conference team if we don't play in a BCS bowl. Remember we have an automatic birth if we finish BCS 8 or better and are elegible if we finish 12th or better. That is extremely generous if you ask me and it leads to us screwing many teams out of a BCS bowl. So put on your AD hat and what decision would you make? Keep the favored elegibility and play in BCS bowls more frequently or play less frequently and get paid more money? Remember that this deal was made a couple years ago to take effect this season. A couple of years ago we sucked so bad we sucked at suckin'. So this year, we "lose" money on the deal. Next year it is highly unlikely that we go to a BCS bowl. So we will get a guaranteed payout from the BCS on top of the money we get from the bowl we actually play in. Next year it sounds like a great deal! Remember, White was presented with this situation. He didn't just go to the BCS complaining that we were making too much money. On the contrary, it was the other teams in the conferences that were complaining that we were making too much money. Confronted with crap and with very little bargaining position, I think he made a pretty dang good deal.

domeanddomer that is some fine information. Well said.

I think first things first....

lets just get winning a bowl game outta the way.

Go IRISH

I think first things first....

lets just get winning a bowl game outta the way.

Go IRISH

 

I agree...unfortunately I'm not too confident playing LSU. Stranger things have happened though.

domeandomer, thats a very philanthropic defense for a AD that has a mind set of a loser. Not knowing the particulars of the contract and taking what you have stated as fact; I could extrapolate, blah, blah, the other teams were complaining that ND was making to much money, yet they agreed to the contract in the first place. Our AD wanted to be a nice man and he capitulated/folded in committee under pressure. Replace him and Minter at the same time.

 

Coach Weis will not miss a BCS game in his career at ND.

domer, I love your Photoshop avatar!!!

Yes a good one

My question is this: where does that 12.5 million go?

 

I know that conference teams get 4.5 and the rest goes to the conference, but seeing as we do not have a conference, where does it go? Do teh bowls get to keep it?

Also, by taking this deal, I believe that we are eligible if we are in the top 14, actually increasing are access to the games and everyone else must be a top 4 to recieve an automatic bid, while we only need to be in the top 8.

 

White is a good AD. Look at the state of all of our athletics. Hockey, all women's sports, BBall, Football, Soccer, etc.. WE are routinely one of the top 5 aathletic departments the last few years.

 

White did not have much of a position to argue from, but still I think he was just placating those that will eventually vault him to his dreamjob as the commissioner of the league