OntarioIrish Posted September 8 Share Posted September 8 Makes Freeman's pregame remarks all the more ironic in the aftermath: "Don't play to an opponent, play to a standard!". Well, if the standard was suckitude, then mission accomplished. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NDLincPark Posted September 8 Share Posted September 8 6 hours ago, WeaverIrish said: I woulda loved to see Buchner out there today Negative. He was so bad he sucked at 2 schools and quit the sport. Buchner was and is a complete loser. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocketsan Posted September 8 Share Posted September 8 2 hours ago, OntarioIrish said: Makes Freeman's pregame remarks all the more ironic in the aftermath: "Don't play to an opponent, play to a standard!". Well, if the standard was suckitude, then mission accomplished. I said this exact thing to my wife after the game. That sounded great three hours ago... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocketsan Posted September 8 Share Posted September 8 Pretty sure Jesus Christ could take the head coaching position and still not be the guy. We may have a couple absolute studs on defense (including the best defender in the nation), but we are clearly lacking top tier talent across the board. The landscape of today's college football is so distorted with transfers and NIL that I'm resigned to watch (and sometimes enjoy) three hours of Notre Dame football with little to no expectations. Those who choose to live and die with every snap are going to have to come to terms with the fact that it is what it is... Though I'd still prefer to be embarrassed by Georgia in a game rather than Northern Illinois. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jessemoore97 Posted September 8 Author Share Posted September 8 12 minutes ago, Rocketsan said: Pretty sure Jesus Christ could take the head coaching position and still not be the guy. We may have a couple absolute studs on defense (including the best defender in the nation), but we are clearly lacking top tier talent across the board. The landscape of today's college football is so distorted with transfers and NIL that I'm resigned to watch (and sometimes enjoy) three hours of Notre Dame football with little to no expectations. Those who choose to live and die with every snap are going to have to come to terms with the fact that it is what it is... Though I'd still prefer to be embarrassed by Georgia in a game rather than Northern Illinois. Well of course JC wouldn't be the guy, he also hasn't been a HC before... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldy Posted September 8 Share Posted September 8 I remember hearing this during Freeman’s post game presser after Texas A&M. It really does tell you all you need to know after this embarrassing loss! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nd1989 Posted September 8 Share Posted September 8 Marcus needed to show some guts in that game and make a QB change. He couldn't do it, and as a result he failed. Until he can pull his QB, I don't think we will see progress. Also, "play to a standard"? How about scout your opponent and have a plan to counter their strategy. This sounds amateurish... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldy Posted September 8 Share Posted September 8 15 minutes ago, nd1989 said: Marcus needed to show some guts in that game and make a QB change. He couldn't do it, and as a result he failed. Until he can pull his QB, I don't think we will see progress. Also, "play to a standard"? How about scout your opponent and have a plan to counter their strategy. This sounds amateurish... I could not agree more! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4thand1 Posted September 8 Share Posted September 8 Freeman's main objective should be to set a plan in place to achieve success and hold players and coaches accountable along the way. 1. Are you recruiting the right guys? (Examply, do not allow coaches, recruiting staff to get off target for the types of guys you need. There should be monthly meetings to make sure the staff is on target with expectations so changes can be made if they aren't.) 2. Are the game plans sound? (Example, after 1 quarter, things aren't going well. You should be approaching the coordinator and talking about changing things up immediately or potentially soon.) 3. Are the players and coaches properly motivated? (Example, are players sleepwalking through the game? IF they are, get in their behinds immediately.) I know it's not quite this simple but it's also not as complicated as ND makes it seem. There is just no way Freeman isn't on the hot seat right now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeaverIrish Posted September 8 Share Posted September 8 4 hours ago, NDLincPark said: Negative. He was so bad he sucked at 2 schools and quit the sport. Buchner was and is a complete loser. Clown 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coltssb Posted September 8 Share Posted September 8 We should expect this. Kelly also lost early on in his career. It took him a couple of years to understand-just win. Should have ran it on that 2nd and 1. He also has shown he can’t be consistent for every opponent. Which takes time. BUT, he’s got more too 25 wins then BK did at this time and has shown to be able to get guys up for the most part against top competition. The admin chose him so they have to stick with him through the hardships. If he can just nail down a qb, again, something Kelly failed to do time and time again, then he’ll be alright. He also needs to know when to pull the plug. Which should be this week. Have an open competition. He can always go right back to Riley if Angeli or Minchey struggle in the first half. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldy Posted September 8 Share Posted September 8 18 hours ago, Kid Gloves said: Havent been on here in a while but that was so bad i had to say something. if you are ND and you cant recruit and develop a QB that is inexcusable. how can Carr be worse than Leonard?!?! We are the only program that doesnt get a talented QB and put him on the field as a freshman and develop him. Long time posters here will know I couldn’t stand Tommy Rees. But if Rees was our QB today we win this game easily. Put Carr on the field! Well said, and I completely agree! And despite the circumstances, good to see you back! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankus Posted September 8 Share Posted September 8 1 hour ago, coltssb said: We should expect this. Kelly also lost early on in his career. It took him a couple of years to understand-just win. Should have ran it on that 2nd and 1. He also has shown he can’t be consistent for every opponent. Which takes time. BUT, he’s got more too 25 wins then BK did at this time and has shown to be able to get guys up for the most part against top competition. The admin chose him so they have to stick with him through the hardships. If he can just nail down a qb, again, something Kelly failed to do time and time again, then he’ll be alright. He also needs to know when to pull the plug. Which should be this week. Have an open competition. He can always go right back to Riley if Angeli or Minchey struggle in the first half. A rookie coach has never succeeded at ND. If Freeman loses 4 games this year I’ll be surprised and dissapointed if Bevaqua doesn’t fire him. Swarbrick should have never even made the hire a year before he retired. If Freeman loses 4 this year and is retained it will confirm to me that ND is content being a place where they are a development program for head coaches, not a school committed to being the best and hiring the best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4thand1 Posted September 8 Share Posted September 8 I haven't read all of the posts so apologies if this has been mentioned. Paraphrasing Freeman's pregame interview, he said that Leonard needs to just stick to the gameplan and don't try to do too much. I don't recall exactly what he said but it made me think that he is dictating what type of offense is run to some extent. Denbrock was part of a dynamic ND offense in the past and lead great offenses in Cin & LSU. He's very experienced and highly paid. I would be terribly disappointed in him if he let Freeman tell him what type of offense to run. Denbrock needs to tell him to stick to his side of the ball and fire me if you don't like my offense. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cali_domer Posted September 8 Share Posted September 8 3 hours ago, Frankus said: A rookie coach has never succeeded at ND. If Freeman loses 4 games this year I’ll be surprised and dissapointed if Bevaqua doesn’t fire him. Swarbrick should have never even made the hire a year before he retired. If Freeman loses 4 this year and is retained it will confirm to me that ND is content being a place where they are a development program for head coaches, not a school committed to being the best and hiring the best. ND will not fire a black head in year three no matter the record. Year 4 is guaranteed 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4thand1 Posted September 8 Share Posted September 8 Here is the full pregame interview. Shame on Denbrock if he's ok with this mentality. I don't think that is the case though. Ball control offense is not going to get it done. What the heck does Freeman know about calling a winning offense. Stay in your lane. "Just want to play within the offense. We don't need anything spectacular," Freeman said to NBC sideline reporter Zora Stephenson. "Do exactly what your coaches tell you to do, play within the game plan and the rest will take care of itself. If we start trying to make plays and throw the ball down the field, then all of a sudden we're playing out of character. Just do exactly what we want you to do and the rest will take care of itself." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocketsan Posted September 8 Share Posted September 8 That quote does not say that Freeman is calling offense… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldy Posted September 9 Share Posted September 9 Man, I sure hope Freeman’s not doing that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4thand1 Posted September 9 Share Posted September 9 Doesn't seem like the style of offense that Denbrock would run. If not Denbrock, has to be Freeman pushing his preferences. Freeman did want to hire Ludwig who is run first OC. I am making assumptions and it would be good to know more about what's happening. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYGoldenDomer Posted September 9 Share Posted September 9 3 hours ago, Rocketsan said: That quote does not say that Freeman is calling offense… That's not what I got out of it either. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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