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No players will want to come here because of 'The Education' or the 'History'   No one gives a shit about lou holtz, or any of the novelties 

They need to join a conference and join the new competitive college football  landscape. 

Yesterdays NCAA decision makes this even more obvious. 

The only organization, other than the NCAA,  more inept at dealing and/or forecasting college sports change is the Notre Dame Athletic Program. 

ND still has a ton to bring to the table, and any conference would want them - but they need to do this now so it's effective in 2025. 

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I've saying this for years. ND needs to join a conference.

9 hours ago, NDLincPark said:

No players will want to come here because of 'The Education' or the 'History'   No one gives a shit about lou holtz, or any of the novelties 

They need to join a conference and join the new competitive college football  landscape. 

Yesterdays NCAA decision makes this even more obvious. 

The only organization, other than the NCAA,  more inept at dealing and/or forecasting college sports change is the Notre Dame Athletic Program. 

ND still has a ton to bring to the table, and any conference would want them - but they need to do this now so it's effective in 2025. 

Agree about the NCAA being inept. However, I only agree to a certain extent about Notre Dame.

Jenkin’s didn’t seem to get the changing CFB landscape, but I feel Swarbrick was getting there. The jury’s still out on Becacqua and Dowd, but I’m excited to see where they take the Football Program!

I also feel Freeman is the best coach to be able to adapt to this new CFB landscape as well.

This means joining a conference will not be necessary. Well, at least for a while. The only disadvantage at this point is not being able to get a guaranteed bye in the playoffs. That means Notre Dame will have to play one more game every year, but doing that will only make them stronger!

43 minutes ago, Baldy said:

 That means Notre Dame will have to play one more game every year, but doing that will only make them stronger!

so much wrong with banking on or even having to play any extra with the expanded playoffs...we aren't as special as we think we are anymore...there's a lot of shiny diamonds...no one wants to put up with Blair's sh!t when you can hang with committed Jo, Natalie, Tootie and Mrs. Garrett...

13 minutes ago, Rocketsan said:

so much wrong with banking on or even having to play any extra with the expanded playoffs...we aren't as special as we think we are anymore...there's a lot of shiny diamonds...no one wants to put up with Blair's sh!t when you can hang with committed Jo, Natalie, Tootie and Mrs. Garrett...

The thing is, they don’t really have a choice.

Also, this team is much more talented than everyone thinks. The defense is elite, and the offense could be very good too! We all know TE and RB are elite, but the only question marks I see is at QB and WR. There are some playmakers there that could shine bright under Denbrock though!

I know it’s hard, because I can be a bit of a pessimist when it comes to NDFB, but with all of these positive changes to players and staff, I’m trying to look at it with a lot more optimism!

I do believe in 2024, Notre Dame will finish’s the regular season 10-2, make the playoffs, and get all the way to the semifinals, but lose there. 2025 is the year they win it all! Watch!!

41 minutes ago, Baldy said:

The thing is, they don’t really have a choice.

 

yes they do...JOIN A CONFERENCE

Eũćķ the conferences….

2 hours ago, Rocketsan said:

yes they do...JOIN A CONFERENCE

Hate to tell you, but they’re not going to.

22 minutes ago, irishwavend said:

Eũćķ the conferences….

Exactly! These conferences, specifically the SEC, is what has put CFB in this insane situation.

The PAC-12 is gone, which really is sad to see. And it all started because of the SEC taking Texas and Oklahoma, which then led to USC, UCLA, Oregon, and Washington to leave for the B1G. And it looks like Clemson and FSU will be leaving the ACC, likely for the SEC, so I’m sure the ACC will die too.

As @irishwavend said, 🤬 those conferences!

ND is either going to have to join a conference or be happy scheduling Cincinnati as its biggest game of the year. ND is going to lose the USC game.  Ultimately Florida State and Clemson will join the SEC.  The SEC and BIG 10 will have so many members and such tough in-conference schedules that the big teams won’t want to schedule ND. I suspect over time ND might get to schedule Vanderbilt and Wake Forest, but not Ohio State or Georgia or Clemson. 
ND will be forced to join a conference. It’s just a matter of which conference and when.  
And by that time, much like Nick Saban, I may be done with college football.

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If they do not act now, ND will be considered a Group of 5 level school in a few short years

Go to a college that pays you to play football?  Or go to a college that does not pay you but has touchdown jesus?  

 

Lol

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On 5/24/2024 at 10:17 PM, irishwavend said:

Eũćķ the conferences….

Imagine being so moronic, you would root for this (Which will kill ND Football), just because you're old and unable to accept change. 

1 hour ago, NDLincPark said:

Imagine being so moronic, you would root for this (Which will kill ND Football), just because you're old and unable to accept change. 

Imagine continuing to resort to personal attacks despite multiple warnings that it will result in (another) ban.

Why do you continue to do it?

15 hours ago, Mike said:

Imagine continuing to resort to personal attacks despite multiple warnings that it will result in (another) ban.

Why do you continue to do it?

Have you not read this guy's posts?  There's a reason he was one of the first people I put on IGNORE

1 hour ago, TexasDomer said:

Have you not read this guy's posts?  There's a reason he was one of the first people I put on IGNORE

Yeah, it's just hard to grasp how it's this difficult to just not resort to taking personal shots at people when they don't agree with his take.

I'm not a fan of the approach to creating new topics (usually just a negative rant), but at least those topics have some value and can be worth a discussion.

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1 hour ago, Mike said:

Yeah, it's just hard to grasp how it's this difficult to just not resort to taking personal shots at people when they don't agree with his take.

I'm not a fan of the approach to creating new topics (usually just a negative rant), but at least those topics have some value and can be worth a discussion.

I would say, wanting to cut off your nose to spite your face is pretty stupid.  And that is exactly what ND fans who still want them to be Independent are doing. 

They are either not comprehending or intentionally being obtuse about the realities of ND football and the CFB landscape. 

I want ND football to compete for a Natty over the next 5 years.   Some fans just want them to get left behind and drop further from relevance.   If that is too mean, sorry I suppose.  

 

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2 hours ago, Mike said:

Yeah, it's just hard to grasp how it's this difficult to just not resort to taking personal shots at people when they don't agree with his take.

I'm not a fan of the approach to creating new topics (usually just a negative rant), but at least those topics have some value and can be worth a discussion.

Yeah, it’s very annoying! I can go on and give my reason, but this is what I really see when he goes on these insulting rants…

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1 hour ago, NDLincPark said:

I would say, wanting to cut off your nose to spite your face is pretty stupid.  And that is exactly what ND fans who still want them to be Independent are doing. 

They are either not comprehending or intentionally being obtuse about the realities of ND football and the CFB landscape. 

I want ND football to compete for a Natty over the next 5 years.   Some fans just want them to get left behind and drop further from relevance.   If that is too mean, sorry I suppose.  

 

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Every once in a while I see these threads and am glad I put two people on ignore in my years on this board. Some people just can’t accept it has nothing to do with disagreements and everything to do with approach.

22 minutes ago, Baldy said:

Yeah, it’s very annoying! I can go on and give my reason, but this is what I really see when he goes on these insulting rants…

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56 minutes ago, mcgov12 said:

Every once in a while I see these threads and am glad I put two people on ignore in my years on this board. Some people just can’t accept it has nothing to do with disagreements and everything to do with approach.

 

Bingo! 👏🏼

I am all for respectful disagreement...

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The thing about ND to  conference is the only way its happening is if the conferences say Notre Dame the only access you have to the playoff is if you join a conference.

 

ND does not care about losing the top seed bye because they will get a "bye" on Conference Championship Week.

 

The only way ND will join is if/when the conferences exclude ND from playoff access.

 

ND has one of the most valuable brands in college football which includes their own TV network in NBC/Peacock.

 

They have a seat at the table in these playoff discussions AND Pete values independence.

 

So I don't see ND changing course anytime soon but i've been wrong and well documented to be wrong in the past.

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