September 10, 20222 yr Execution but he's pointing blame at himself. He doesn't sound like he has any answers TBH.
September 11, 20222 yr 8 minutes ago, JTennant said: Execution but he's pointing blame at himself. He doesn't sound like he has any answers TBH. He is over his head really. Tommy is a huge problem, but MF can't rein him in because Swarbrick signed him before they even name Greman coach. I like Freeman, but ND is not a learn on the job type of position. Edited September 11, 20222 yr by cali_domer
September 11, 20222 yr 19 minutes ago, cali_domer said: He is over his head really. Tommy is a huge problem, but MF can't rein him in because Swarbrick signed him before they even name Greman coach. I like Freeman, but ND is not a learn on the job type of position. Well not at two prominent positions. If you’re head coach is green then your o or d coordinators can’t be. We have both in a way. Marshall’s offense and line was very creative for their qb. We look so amateurish still.
September 11, 20222 yr I really don't think this is a TR issue. The whole situation is disjointed for sure.. We'll never know as there won't be a control in this experiment. The only control will be TR being OC for another program. MF will be done as a HC after this disaster and before his contract is up. He'll be a DC for a long while once he's let go.
September 11, 20222 yr If you listen to MF post-game and then listen to Jimbo Fisher - who also had an enormous upset- one at least instills confidence that he’s still in control and will change things and move forward. The other looks like a grade school kid giving a book review in front of the class when he didn’t read the book.
September 11, 20222 yr This isn't a coaching issue. Its a talent issue at two positions and an execution problem on another. We aren't talented at enough at QB and WR. We aren't getting it done on the o-line. But if we were better at QB and WR, the OL wouldn't be facing stacked boxes and constant run blitzes. If the defense was afraid to get beat on the outside and thought the QB could deliver it to them, we wouldn't be struggling in the run game like we are. TR is limited by his talent. We don't fix it by changing coaches. We fix it on the recruitment trail.
September 11, 20222 yr 2 minutes ago, retch10 said: This isn't a coaching issue. Its a talent issue at two positions and an execution problem on another. We aren't talented at enough at QB and WR. We aren't getting it done on the o-line. But if we were better at QB and WR, the OL wouldn't be facing stacked boxes and constant run blitzes. If the defense was afraid to get beat on the outside and thought the QB could deliver it to them, we wouldn't be struggling in the run game like we are. TR is limited by his talent. We don't fix it by changing coaches. We fix it on the recruitment trail. Hard to fix it on the recruiting trail when you lose to a team you should’ve beaten based on pure talent alone. What top talent will want to play for a team that beat Group of 5 schools? I’m sorry but it is not like this team lost a lot of talent from last year. Are the WR bad yes, is the QB bad yes again but the D should have done their job and never even let Marshall sniff the 50 on that TD drive. Team sport and the O is terrible and needs time to gel but the D choking when it matters, like the Cubs in September, is a Big issue. Back to recruiting. Unless Carr reclassifies which I hope he doesn’t, ND is stuck with TB for another season cause they whiffed on Moore (not the staff fault as that has all to do with NIL I’m sure). BL - ND needs to be teams it has a large talent gap over handily. Without that good luck in the recruiting trail.
September 11, 20222 yr 7 minutes ago, retch10 said: This isn't a coaching issue. Its a talent issue at two positions and an execution problem on another. We aren't talented at enough at QB and WR. We aren't getting it done on the o-line. But if we were better at QB and WR, the OL wouldn't be facing stacked boxes and constant run blitzes. If the defense was afraid to get beat on the outside and thought the QB could deliver it to them, we wouldn't be struggling in the run game like we are. TR is limited by his talent. We don't fix it by changing coaches. We fix it on the recruitment trail. We aren’t good enough at QB or WR to beat an Alabama or Georgia. We are good enough at those positions to beat a Marshall. It IS a coaching issue. Coaches like BK, assholes as they may be, win a lot simply because they truly DEMAND to win. Players are kinda afraid to lose with a hard-butt like that in charge. So he gets that extra bit out of them. It’s not something you can fake either. You either have it or you don’t. I don’t think MF has it. Players can sense that.
September 11, 20222 yr 22 minutes ago, Green Goblin said: If you listen to MF post-game and then listen to Jimbo Fisher - who also had an enormous upset- one at least instills confidence that he’s still in control and will change things and move forward. The other looks like a grade school kid giving a book review in front of the class when he didn’t read the book. One knows he’s getting millions for the next ten years. One could be fired tomorrow. One has won one on pure luck and is still riding that as being a good coach. One has only coached three games. So not great comparisons beside both losing to teams in the Sun Belt.
September 11, 20222 yr 2 minutes ago, Green Goblin said: We aren’t good enough at QB or WR to beat an Alabama or Georgia. We are good enough at those positions to beat a Marshall. It IS a coaching issue. Coaches like BK, assholes as they may be, win a lot simply because they truly DEMAND to win. Players are kinda afraid to lose with a hard-butt like that in charge. So he gets that extra bit out of them. It’s not something you can fake either. You either have it or you don’t. I don’t think MF has it. Players can sense that. I don’t know. The man was elite talent at OSU and won a championship there. You don’t start as a freshman and help your team win if you don’t “have it.” I would argue Kelly didn’t demand to win because he got smoked whenever he played equal or better competition. Remember he won a lot of games sometimes by luck. Toledo last year. Navy one year, ND struggled against a 1-2 win UMass team for three quarters. His teams just pulled it out of there butt is all. I wouldn’t call that demanding but rather luck. Freeman didn’t have that luck like Kelly did. All he did was just learn the hard way that you win at all costs.
September 11, 20222 yr 1 hour ago, cali_domer said: I like Freeman, but ND is not a learn on the job type of position. Yet TD Tommy, in year 3, is still learning on the job.
September 11, 20222 yr Just now, Irish Chris said: Yet TD Tommy, in year 3, is still learning on the job. What was ND's record in years 1 and 2?
September 11, 20222 yr 20 minutes ago, retch10 said: This isn't a coaching issue. Its a talent issue at two positions and an execution problem on another. We aren't talented at enough at QB and WR. We aren't getting it done on the o-line. But if we were better at QB and WR, the OL wouldn't be facing stacked boxes and constant run blitzes. If the defense was afraid to get beat on the outside and thought the QB could deliver it to them, we wouldn't be struggling in the run game like we are. TR is limited by his talent. We don't fix it by changing coaches. We fix it on the recruitment trail. So you’re saying other than QB, WR, OLine and DLine they’ve got a pretty ok football team? Lol 12/22 positions need improving.. hopefully they can get right on that. 😄
September 11, 20222 yr 3 minutes ago, Irish Chris said: Yet TD Tommy, in year 3, is still learning on the job. I can’t help but feel like we all spent a lot of time calling him Turnover Tommy as well, could be he just knows one way to play.
September 11, 20222 yr 1 minute ago, JTennant said: So you’re saying other than QB, WR, OLine and DLine they’ve got a pretty ok football team? Lol 12/22 positions need improving.. hopefully they can get right on that. 😄 Well aside from that Mrs Lincoln, how was the play?
September 11, 20222 yr 14 minutes ago, coltssb said: One knows he’s getting millions for the next ten years. One could be fired tomorrow. One has won one on pure luck and is still riding that as being a good coach. One has only coached three games. So not great comparisons beside both losing to teams in the Sun Belt. Hey man, I hate Jimbo Fisher and I think he's one of, if not THE, most overrated coaches in the game today. I think the year FSU won it all with him ND went into their house and BEAT THEM. I know officially we lost but I still RAGE every time I see teams run a rub route that is 100x more egregious than our game winning TD route and never get called. Which is literally almost every single game I watch! Also, if you watch that play the FSU defender grabs our guy, our WR was just falling over! Anyway... However, like I say, he at least instills confidence that there's a plan and someone's in control and that's half the battle really. Also, MF being new means jack shit to the players really. They just want to know they're playing for someone that knows how to win and will help them do that. Full stop. Edited September 11, 20222 yr by Green Goblin
September 11, 20222 yr 41 minutes ago, Green Goblin said: We aren’t good enough at QB or WR to beat an Alabama or Georgia. We are good enough at those positions to beat a Marshall. It IS a coaching issue. Coaches like BK, assholes as they may be, win a lot simply because they truly DEMAND to win. Players are kinda afraid to lose with a hard-butt like that in charge. So he gets that extra bit out of them. It’s not something you can fake either. You either have it or you don’t. I don’t think MF has it. Players can sense that. Marshall was better at QB and WR. Give them ours and we take theirs, we win going away. Truth. That’s football in 2022. A Notre Dame doesn’t lose to Marshall on coaching. Players lose games like this. Freeman had them ready to play. Rees didn’t call bad plays. Buchner threw some atrocious passes. Rees dialed up a TD just before the half. Did we score? Buchner is never going to be on the level we need to compete at a high level. That’s the QB Freeman/Rees was left with. They signed Carr. Patience, while we work at improving one game at a time The 2023 QB will probably be found in the portal
September 11, 20222 yr 24 minutes ago, Green Goblin said: What was ND's record in years 1 and 2? 2020 - our record was 1-2 in games that really mattered, and the one win was against Clemson with no Trevor Lawrence. Outscored in the 2 losses 24 to 65. 2021 - our record was 1-2 in big games, and we lost to the 2 best teams we played that year. The Wisconsin game was the signature win of the season
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