Popular Post Rocketsan Posted September 4, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted September 4, 2022 There are bound to be some growing pains in the first year of a new tenure. That being said, I was content at this point with the result last night. I felt for most of the game we were a turnover or a pick away from an impressive upset. Playing in that environment with the talent they have...I'll take what we got last night. Was nice to not get embarrassed or blown out...there's that. That being said: - Rees HAS to do better or they need to bring in someone who can. - Defense was a pleasant surprise. Cam will have to improve big time. - I want a sh!t ton more of Estime. Asked for it last year, didn't get it. - Special teams looks to be a little tighter this season. I'm willing to give CMF the time he needs to get his sea legs under him. There's going to be bumps on the road this season for sure. Anyone willing to write him and htis team off at this point is a fool. 3 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasDomer Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 I agree with pretty much everything you said. The fact that we were in it so late was a positive. and make no mistake, OSU is extremely good, and we made them look average for most of the game. Sadly we looked a notch below average, but I think that’s what great teams do to each other. There aren’t a lot of teams that can make OSU look so mortal, and that means it takes an OSU to make ND look like that 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NDhoosier Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 No arguments here. A very rational post even after a loss. I was disappointed in our kickoff return last night. Just seemed like Tyree was getting hit at the 10yard every time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irishfan82 Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 I don't understand all the hate right now on the team or staff. All of us who have watched this program the last ten years have seen poor recruiting and/or development at wide receiver and QB. This was Buchner's first real start in a huge stadium against the fastest team in the B1G. People need to realize that Ohio State is probably the only northern team with the speed to run with Bama or Georgia. Also, this was the first start for this whole staff together. We were in this game into the 4th quarter and had a real chance. Our corners have to improve if we are to compete at the top levels and we desperately need a couple of receivers to breakthrough and give us big play threats. Also, I love our running back and we just need to block for them to get them running to their potential. We have a get right game now and a good run of opponents to get us ready for Clemson later in the year. We will be fine! 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTennant Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 Looks like the ceiling probably going to be 9-3 for this team. When you say bumps and bruises, I mean look out for UNC, BC, Syracuse, Clemson, USC, BYU. Splitting that run puts them at 8-4, losing all is 5-7 All of these games are going to be close to toss ups and ND will be a touchdown dog against Clemson and USC. I know I over-reacted about FSU last year and they played better against a better team than FSU but I really don't see this team making huge improvements. Bumps and bruises are ok, but he has a top 10 talent roster, so there aren't a whole lot of excuses if he can't dominate lesser competition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4thand1 Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 B. Morrison looks like a stud DB! Rees needs to work on offensive play calls to use when the opponent is taking away the run. I'm not the expert but maybe sweeps, RB screens, etc. I think we saw NDs lack of run stuffing big DTs. Too many lighter 3 techs. Great job by Al Golden. I only saw 1 big mistake which was the 3rd QTR TD pass from Stroud to Johnson. Heard that Mickey might have thought he was going to have help deep and came off the receiver. If any of us would have been told that ND will hold OSU to 21, we would have taken it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndomer4 Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 Anyone else concerned with Foskey and Mayer? Both of them put on some weight this off-season and they both looked slower than last year to me. Mayer made a couple plays but Foskey was completely invisible. We will lose to both Clemson and USC with a repeat performance from them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FaithInIrish Forever Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 2 minutes ago, ndomer4 said: Anyone else concerned with Foskey and Mayer? Both of them put on some weight this off-season and they both looked slower than last year to me. Mayer made a couple plays but Foskey was completely invisible. We will lose to both Clemson and USC with a repeat performance from them. Both trying to help in the running game. They might have went to far. Players lose weight typically throughout the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasDomer Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 I think those 2 were the subject of OSUs gameplan. Expect that from everyone, with a lesser degree of execution of the plsn 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FaithInIrish Forever Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 1 hour ago, Rocketsan said: There are bound to be some growing pains in the first year of a new tenure. That being said, I was content at this point with the result last night. I felt for most of the game we were a turnover or a pick away from an impressive upset. Playing in that environment with the talent they have...I'll take what we got last night. Was nice to not get embarrassed or blown out...there's that. That being said: - Rees HAS to do better or they need to bring in someone who can. - Defense was a pleasant surprise. Cam will have to improve big time. - I want a sh!t ton more of Estime. Asked for it last year, didn't get it. - Special teams looks to be a little tighter this season. I'm willing to give CMF the time he needs to get his sea legs under him. There's going to be bumps on the road this season for sure. Anyone willing to write him and htis team off at this point is a fool. I agree. Freeman coaches more like Jim Tressel than Brian Kelly. So we'll be in every game. Next step is closing games and that takes time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish_Thunder Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 56 minutes ago, ndomer4 said: Anyone else concerned with Foskey and Mayer? Both of them put on some weight this off-season and they both looked slower than last year to me. Mayer made a couple plays but Foskey was completely invisible. We will lose to both Clemson and USC with a repeat performance from them. Those might of been the biggest offensive Tackles Foskey has faced to date, OSU had size advantage inside and it showed. I'm not worried about Mayer, we have to find other weapons or teams will continue to take him away with scheme. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbo Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 Rocketsan - The voice of reason! The D held the vaunted OSU offense to 21 points. That’s a big positive. Yes the O needs work, but consider the venue and the opposition for Buchner’s first start. I believe he will only get better as the season progresses and he learns from any mistakes. I, for one, am looking forward to the remainder of the season. I’m looking for the Irish to be a better team all around as this season progresses. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocketsan Posted September 5, 2022 Author Share Posted September 5, 2022 There is plenty to be excited about...a few things to be concerned about...and lots of time for Freeman to instill his expectations and put his mark on the program. Keeping Rees around was a way to not potentially lose the room by wiping the coaching slate clean. Despite what we feel about his planning ability, players trust Tom, so keeping him around was imperative for cohesion. Anyone who isn't patient with the process, is ignorant to realistic progression. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndomer4 Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Rocketsan said: There is plenty to be excited about...a few things to be concerned about...and lots of time for Freeman to instill his expectations and put his mark on the program. Keeping Rees around was a way to not potentially lose the room by wiping the coaching slate clean. Despite what we feel about his planning ability, players trust Tom, so keeping him around was imperative for cohesion. Anyone who isn't patient with the process, is ignorant to realistic progression. The secondary was a big surprise, not only that, but we also have tons of depth there. I’m hoping the weak showing from the d line had more to do with OSU’s offensive line. Heistand’s lines are showing a trend of getting pushed around by every elite team. What was the reason everyone gave for ND getting killed in the playoffs? I believe it was a lack of elite QB play, for the most part. For all of Books shortcomings, throwing the ball never looked difficult… for Buchner it does. I’ve watched a lot of football and I’m telling you right now Buchner does not have it. The staff didn’t trust him and OSU showed him no respect. ND fans can use all the excuses they want, many freshman qbs come in and ball out. Bad picks against Cinci and VT Last year and zero trust to throw vs Stanford or OSU. He isn’t Wimbush or Lamar Jackson, elite teams will have zero issue forcing him to throw. I think Pyne gives this team a better chance to win vs elite teams, unfortunately we don’t play one until November. Edited September 5, 2022 by ndomer4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synoptico Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 GOD BLESS SPECIAL TEAMS!!! Touchbacks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddieAngel Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 59 minutes ago, ndomer4 said: The secondary was a big surprise, not only that, but we also have tons of depth there. I’m hoping the weak showing from the d line had more to do with OSU’s offensive line. Heistand’s lines are showing a trend of getting pushed around by every elite team. What was the reason everyone gave for ND getting killed in the playoffs? I believe it was a lack of elite QB play, for the most part. For all of Books shortcomings, throwing the ball never looked difficult… for Buchner it does. I’ve watched a lot of football and I’m telling you right now Buchner does not have it. The staff didn’t trust him and OSU showed him no respect. ND fans can use all the excuses they want, many freshman qbs come in and ball out. Bad picks against Cinci and VT Last year and zero trust to throw vs Stanford or OSU. He isn’t Wimbush or Lamar Jackson, elite teams will have zero issue forcing him to throw. I think Pyne gives this team a better chance to win vs elite teams, unfortunately we don’t play one until November. I like Pyne. I thought he consistently outplayed TB last year when he was given the opportunity I never understood why he didn’t get more opportunity mid season. It felt like he was in the doghouse or something because he deserved the starts when Coan was hurting last year but it didn’t happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NDhoosier Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 (edited) 5 hours ago, EddieAngel said: I like Pyne. I thought he consistently outplayed TB last year when he was given the opportunity I never understood why he didn’t get more opportunity mid season. It felt like he was in the doghouse or something because he deserved the starts when Coan was hurting last year but it didn’t happen. TB was put in last year as a change of pace. This has been mentioned so many times that it should be common knowledge by now. Buchner was put in last year specifically to be a running QB... Buchner clearly beat out Pyne over the course of the off-season and it wasnt close. We didnt lose to OSU because of Buchner, not even close. Edited September 6, 2022 by NDhoosier 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcgov12 Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 20 minutes ago, NDhoosier said: TB was put in last year as a change of pace. This has been mentioned so many times that it should be common knowledge by now. Buchner was put in last year specifically to be a running QB... Buchner clearly beat out Pyne over the course of the off-season and it wasnt close. We didnt lose to OSU because of Buchner, not even close. Thank you for saying it, 100% spot on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jessemoore97 Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 On 9/4/2022 at 1:42 PM, Irish_Thunder said: Those might of been the biggest offensive Tackles Foskey has faced to date, OSU had size advantage inside and it showed. I'm not worried about Mayer, we have to find other weapons or teams will continue to take him away with scheme. Though we only did it once, throw to the other TE. Iowa a few years ago had Fant and Hockenson as their TE. Fant was the threat everyone focused on and they utilized Hockenson more that season. We have the depth and talent there as in years past, yet we only focus on one as being the guy to catch passes. Huge mistake IMO especially with a depleted and inexperienced WR room. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish_Thunder Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 24 minutes ago, jessemoore97 said: Though we only did it once, throw to the other TE. Iowa a few years ago had Fant and Hockenson as their TE. Fant was the threat everyone focused on and they utilized Hockenson more that season. We have the depth and talent there as in years past, yet we only focus on one as being the guy to catch passes. Huge mistake IMO especially with a depleted and inexperienced WR room. Was a heck of a grab by Bauman too! 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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