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Difficult game

hard to prepare for

returning 9 defenders

new players on offense

they limit possessions, gotta get off the field, never changes

Polian say Navy Special Teams are crazy,

 good d-line man great linebacker

time of possesion is the biggest deal

need to be discipline and efficient

 

offense needs to efficient in coaching and playing got to pick your spots to take shots

receiver blocking has improved, better identity on offense

compliments Kryen's improved play

 

injuries

Lenzy wants to play

Hamilton making progress(out vs Navy)

Foskeys fine

 

 

Scout team work on the mesh reads all year

Elston and Freeman will collaborate

Kollie taking smaller steps

drew white, bo bauer know the option

Drew White's in great physical traits

JD and Drew are banged up

Drew was hurt  playing last week

JD got a break last week

both JD and Drew are limited contact in practice

 

Jack coan was our best option and we've worked with him

he protects the ball

coans fun to coach

Lance Taylor preaching patience to RBs, when we don't get push we can't do it

Kicker John Doerer is playing hurt

 

Navy had a QB change and is improving on defense

 

Pick your spots to be agressive

need good play calling

Navy's good in the defense redzone

 

Navy will have a trick play

Coan is showing his skillset to the coaches, and been willing to make changes

Buchner kept the defense honest with the deep pass

Styles mom is fantastic

Kelly expects Hamilton to play again this year.

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48 minutes ago, FaithInIrishForever said:

@vangordersmustache @cali_domer.. Should ND keep playing Navy?

Yes, even though the game drives me nuts , I respect the "why" and would hate to cancel. I hate the game because of injuries, but respect the decision. 

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Just now, cali_domer said:

Yes, even though the game drives me nuts , I respect the "why" and would hate to cancel. I hate the game because of injuries, but respect the decision. 

Thanks, I agree 100 percent. Navy will play win at all costs like they do in real life war. Its why a 210 pound midshipmen can compete with an NFL athlete?

 

@ELDER06 @Rocketsan What do you think of the ND-Navy game?

1 hour ago, FaithInIrishForever said:

What do you think @coltssb @nd_irish @Synoptico @Irishfan55 @Domers23 @PJacksonsDred15 @tom3408 @The Captain 19

How do you like playing Navy?

Should they be  on the schedule for saving ND?

 

It’s understandable why we play them. I appreciate them. I also wonder is this a forever debt?  Can there be a monetary position Nd can take to say thanks?  What if ND does join the ACC?  What then?  Is that really going to be one of ND’s non-conference games every year?  That may hurt especially if the ACC continues on the path of being terrible that it has been.  
Honestly, I would rather ND pay them off and the game be done. Or at least play them every three years or something. Even tell Navy when we do play you we’ll play wherever you like and we’ll pay you for your time in that game. 
If that’s how you have to sweeten the deal so be it.
But playing Navy every year really does nothing for ND in the grand scheme of things. It’s become a pointless game sadly. 

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Just now, coltssb said:

It’s understandable why we play them. I appreciate them. I also wonder is this a forever debt?  Can there be a monetary position Nd can take to say thanks?  What if ND does join the ACC?  What then?  Is that really going to be one of ND’s non-conference games every year?  That may hurt especially if the ACC continues on the path of being terrible that it has been.  
Honestly, I would rather ND pay them off and the game be done. Or at least play them every three years or something. Even tell Navy when we do play you we’ll play wherever you like and we’ll pay you for your time in that game. 
If that’s how you have to sweeten the deal so be it.
But playing Navy every year really does nothing for ND in the grand scheme of things. It’s become a pointless game sadly. 

I really appreciate your perspective. What do you think about playing Navy @SDIrishFan?

2 hours ago, FaithInIrishForever said:

I really appreciate your perspective. What do you think about playing Navy @SDIrishFan?

I respect the agreement but at this point it’s lose-lose for ND. Not sure at what point the debt is paid off. Probably never according to the “agreement”.

but ND gets nothing for this game and if they happen to lose, oh man… Even when Navy is “good” we don’t get credit for a good win.

add that to the injury risk from their style of play, I’d be okay with not plythem.

4 hours ago, FaithInIrishForever said:

What do you think @coltssb @nd_irish @Synoptico @Irishfan55 @Domers23 @PJacksonsDred15 @tom3408 @The Captain 19

How do you like playing Navy?

Should they be  on the schedule for saving ND?

 

 

37 minutes ago, SDIrishFan said:

I respect the agreement but at this point it’s lose-lose for ND. Not sure at what point the debt is paid off. Probably never according to the “agreement”.

but ND gets nothing for this game and if they happen to lose, oh man… Even when Navy is “good” we don’t get credit for a good win.

add that to the injury risk from their style of play, I’d be okay with not plythem.

I'd say I agree with what SDIrishFan is saying.

As much as I like seeing ND play any of the service academies, I just don't see the benefit. I understand the Navy agreement but do we still owe them a yearly game? I don't think so. 

Guess I should explain a little better what I meant. 

The reason I like to see the games with the service academies is because of the service members involved. Most of them know that this is there chance on a big stage. Either at ND stadium or at an NFL venue. Playing against ND. They fight hard and they fight until the very end. They're playing a game they've played since they were young. The NFL is likely (not saying it doesn't happen) not in there future. The future they chose is to fight and defend our way of living. For that reason I do like to see the games but I realize there really is no benefit for ND. 

5 hours ago, FaithInIrishForever said:

Thanks, I agree 100 percent. Navy will play win at all costs like they do in real life war. Its why a 210 pound midshipmen can compete with an NFL athlete?

 

@ELDER06 @Rocketsan What do you think of the ND-Navy game?

It’s always a relief when it’s over. Too much diving at the knees for my liking. 

As a Marine Veteran I love the game.  It’s the only game that I root against Navy.  
As an Irish fan I’m done with it.  As others have said, it’s lose lose.  If the Irish win they’re supposed to win.  If the Irish lose its potentially season ending (as far as the CFP goes).  

5 hours ago, FaithInIrishForever said:

Thanks, I agree 100 percent. Navy will play win at all costs like they do in real life war. Its why a 210 pound midshipmen can compete with an NFL athlete?

 

@ELDER06 @Rocketsan What do you think of the ND-Navy game?

I’d get rid of it. No upside for ND.

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As fans

  • We feel obligated
  • have trouble finding the upside
  • like it 
  • love it
  • fear injuries
  • glad when its over

I think that describes navy week the best

We’ve jettisoned a lot of traditional rivalries.  Navy should stay, even though I expect a serious injury every time we play them

some things are bigger than football. 

This game needs to end.  We've more than repaid our debt to Navy, and it's time to part ways.  

Here's the ironic thing about it ... the general public always gives us grief for playing Navy every year (even though we have yet to play a FCS team), but if we parted ways with Navy, I'd bet the general public and media would consider us the 'bad guy'.  Funny how that works.

What's Freeman's track record against the academies/option teams? 

On 11/1/2021 at 12:40 PM, FaithInIrishForever said:

@vangordersmustache @cali_domer.. Should ND keep playing Navy?

Not that hard. Tell Navy that in order to honor your commitment to playing them they must play UND the week before the off week so the kids can heal their bodies and get back into football shape before SC/Stanford.

Swarbrick needs to be a bit more efficient with this scheduling. He hangs his hat on his independence. Use it to your advantage. Tell the ACC to kick rocks and lock those weeks in. 

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