Posted September 13, 20213 yr Looks like USC got tired of the same results. Too bad. Was liking kicking their butt for so long.
September 13, 20213 yr This sucks lol... He was great for ND lol... They were ready to do this. Already nuked from the staff roster on the website. Completely purged per ESPN/SEC network lol. Must have had a pretty clear decision matrix in place to start the season... Rumors already about Urban Liar.
September 13, 20213 yr As bad a weekend as ever in Trojan history. First, their kicker gets ejected from the game for targeting on the opening kick, then they lay down and let a shitty Stanford team rip them a new one, and then their coach is toast! Edited September 13, 20213 yr by Jersey Irish
September 15, 20213 yr Yeah, I was hoping he would be around for at least a few more seasons. Kind of brutal to be firing him just 2 games into the season. If he was on such thin ice, why not can him after last season? From what I’ve read about Helton, he seems like a pretty decent person. A shame they treated him this way. Hope their next coach is a bust!
September 15, 20213 yr Author 10 hours ago, jimbo said: Yeah, I was hoping he would be around for at least a few more seasons. Kind of brutal to be firing him just 2 games into the season. If he was on such thin ice, why not can him after last season? From what I’ve read about Helton, he seems like a pretty decent person. A shame they treated him this way. Hope their next coach is a bust! From the outside it looks like they gave him an ultimatum. Don’t lose a game. Ha. Also, I wonder if they were trying to save the recruiting class from last year. Who knows the logic of this firing.
September 16, 20213 yr 13 minutes ago, irishwavend said: He’s a great OC. Dump Tommy and hire Helton. So you want to fire a guy who was 11th in offensive efficiency and had the 8th ranked SoS, and hire a guy who was 37th in offensive efficiency with the 63rd ranked SoS..... Makes complete sense.....
September 17, 20213 yr 21 hours ago, OKelleyIrish said: So you want to fire a guy who was 11th in offensive efficiency and had the 8th ranked SoS, and hire a guy who was 37th in offensive efficiency with the 63rd ranked SoS..... Makes complete sense..... You haven’t followed Helton’s career, clearly… There’s a difference in being a head coach and an OC.
September 17, 20213 yr 31 minutes ago, irishwavend said: You haven’t followed Helton’s career, clearly… There’s a difference in being a head coach and an OC. I am very familiar with his career. I just don't think he's some type of offensive genius. The teams he OC'd for didn't statistically perform at a much higher rate than before he got there. He also had some of the best talent in the nation on Offense.... Orgeron (second stint) was nationally known as the best recruiter those days at USC when Helton came on. Probably has had the most star power at QB and WR than anyone with the exception of maybe Bama. Here's a look at total O. Note Helton's time at Memphis never was as good as 2004, and his 2009 dropped off significantly. Helton's OC (just OC) was not statistically any better than before he took over as OC in USC either.... And lastly, Tommy had just as good of a year in total offense in his first year, than Helton did in his entire career. And Tommy had a 3 star QB, and less star WRs.... I'm open to changing my mind on the topic, and not saying Tommy is some elite offensive genius, but Helton isn't some obvious upgrade. Memphis 2004 - 460 2005 - 397 2006 - 336 2007 - 443 (Helton OC) 2008 - 417 (Helton OC) 2009 - 373 (Helton OC) USC 2007 - 434 2008 - 455 2009 - 389 2010 - 431 2011 - 456 2012 - 433 2013 - 453 (Helton OC) 2014 - 457 (Helton OC) 2015 - 437 (Helton OC) ND 2020 449 (Tommy) Edited September 17, 20213 yr by OKelleyIrish
Looks like USC got tired of the same results. Too bad. Was liking kicking their butt for so long.