ndmike88 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 (edited) Waiting to hear from the Kelly homers. Can't wait to hear all the excuses. The weather was bad...Michael Young...the Irish are young...next year is going to be our year...injuries...it was a hostile environment...it was dark out...the stadium lights were to bright...the TV annoucers have it in for ND...the game started to late... Did I leave any excuses out??? When are people going to admit that with Kelly this is it.Decent regular season record (with 8-9 wins guaranteed thanks to a weak schedule), a decent bowl game and a nice payout for getting into the Pinstripe Bowl. Repeat season after season...Kelly pads his win loss record and ND keeps the money pouring in. Edited October 27, 2019 by ndmike88 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankus Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 Read some of the threads. There are some apologists here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FaithInIrish Forever Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 its called the silent majority. Its your turn, enjoy it. I'm not an apologist. I just know I have no control over the decisions at ND. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankus Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 its called the silent majority. Its your turn, enjoy it. I'm not an apologist. I just know I have no control over the decisions at ND. Do you think Michigan has so much more talent than us to beat us 45-14? Or do you think the team was poorly prepared? I do not think Michigan has more talent than us. They simply were better prepared. It is a hallmark of Kelly's career here that he cannot get his team to play to its potential on the road. It is part of his legacy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FaithInIrish Forever Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 Do you think Michigan has so much more talent than us to beat us 45-14? Or do you think the team was poorly prepared? I do not think Michigan has more talent than us. They simply were better prepared. It is a hallmark of Kelly's career here that he cannot get his team to play to its potential on the road. It is part of his legacy. To answer your question we are Not less talented than Michigan. We beat them last year I think Book has hit his ceiling like Rees did. He cannot beat a blitzing man to man(UGA Michigan) with his size and arm talent. I think Kelly criticizes his QB more than coaching him. I don't look for Book to get better. I look for the competition to get worse. Will he have the guts to switch to Phil? I doubt it, but I can hope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ELDER06 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 I’m here and I guess I’m dumb for not wanting to fire a coach who go to the playoff last yr? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankus Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 To answer your question we are Not less talented than Michigan. We beat them last year I think Book has hit his ceiling like Rees did. He cannot beat a blitzing man to man(UGA Michigan) with his size and arm talent. I think Kelly criticizes his QB more than coaching him. I don't look for Book to get better. I look for the competition to get worse. Will he have the guts to switch to Phil? I doubt it, but I can hope. What about the defense? How can we give up 45 points and 303 rushing yards (5.3 ypc) to Michigan? They should have had Gilman in the box all night long and dared Patterson to beat us deep like UM did to us. It was a downpour. Terrible adjustment to the conditions by Lea/Kelly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ELDER06 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 What about the defense? How can we give up 45 points and 303 rushing yards (5.3 ypc) to Michigan? They should have had Gilman in the box all night long and dared Patterson to beat us deep like UM did to us. It was a downpour. Terrible adjustment to the conditions by Lea/Kelly. The Defense sucked balls last night, they need their feet held to the fire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FaithInIrish Forever Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 What about the defense? How can we give up 45 points and 303 rushing yards (5.3 ypc) to Michigan? They should have had Gilman in the box all night long and dared Patterson to beat us deep like UM did to us. It was a downpour. Terrible adjustment to the conditions by Lea/Kelly. The defense held them at 17 for a long time tired out and gave up. 17-45 was soft as Charmin, but it was because the offense kept the defense on the field forever in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jersey Irish Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 The defense held them at 17 for a long time tired out and gave up. 17-45 was soft as Charmin, but it was because the offense kept the defense on the field forever in my opinion. Absolutely correct, Faith. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FaithInIrish Forever Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 I’m here and I guess I’m dumb for not wanting to fire a coach who go to the playoff last yr? No. We're just labeled as apologists because other fans need an enemy to beat because ND didn't beat Michigan. The enemy is losing. Not the other posters guys. Keep that in perspective, so I don't have to switch to the moderator hat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeBrasco Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 Ndmike has not started a thread after the previous 18 games. Now he finally comes out to pound his chest. BK owns so much real estate in your head it is pathetic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4thand1 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 I think ND would be foolish to hit the reset button on the staff now. Nobody likes tough losses but the fact is that the team is competing for the CF playoffs each year. Didn't work out this year but there's obvious forward momentum. There's plenty of room for complaints regarding last night but that doesn't mean you get a new coaching staff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gatsby Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 I know you are upset, hell we all are, but I don’t think it’s quite that simple. Lou Holtz is not coming through the door anytime soon and just because you aren’t Holtz, Saban or Daabo doesn’t mean you’re a bum. Also just because you don’t call for BK to be fired after every tough loss doesn’t make you an apologist. I want him to do better and expected more yesterday, especially after a bye and no classes, but replacing him won’t make us Bama. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coltssb Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 I've always been indifferent. I've supported Kelly because at the time I didn't think anyone was better. I also knew that the cupboard was bare and it gave a longer leash. I've also knew we needed a coach longer than 5 years to build some traction of getting talent. Also, I could see progress(some didn't) yearly in talent and wins. But two years ago I saw the writing on the wall. It's just not going to happen here for Kelly. Unless we go the Bobby Bowden route and let Kelly coach for ND for the next 10 years. -Which I'm not. Because Kelly is going to need all the right magic and formula to make it perfect for him to win the big one. Last year, I started becoming a believer again, and then he came Clemson. Ok, they are good. Real good...Then came Georgia, close but no cigar. We have finally turned. Then came Michigan. Same shyt different season. It's not happening fellas... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synoptico Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 I am here, until I hear a better, realistic option (of which I am all ears). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasDomer Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 I’m a Kelly supporter. That was awful yesterday, and I wholly blame it on the coach. I’m happy with the upward direction in general, but that was embarrassing yesterday. For all of you who are crowing now.... I just don’t look at things the same way you do, and that is OK. At the end of the day, we all want our school to do better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddyO Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 Last night was awful, no excusing that. We were outcoached, outplayed, outhustled....on and on. The worst I've seen since Miami 2 years ago, same feeling. We couldn't execute on a very basic level, and we kept doing the same things that weren't working. Extremely frustrating! With that said, big picture, Notre Dame has regained a spot of national prominence that it hasn't held in 26 years (1993). We have more talent, across the board, then we've had in a long time. BK's shortcomings as a coach deserves to be seen in context. He has measured up better than Weis, Willingham, or Davie. You have to go back to Lou to find a more successful coach, and Lou had his moments as well. Kelly's style of offense is generally not to my liking, even when its working. His team's have appeared woefully unprepared at times, and on the biggest stages. I'm not his staunchest defender, by any stretch. I'm not prepared to cast him aside, though. Keep in mind that ND has an abysmal track record of selecting new head coaches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankus Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 No. We're just labeled as apologists because other fans need an enemy to beat because ND didn't beat Michigan. The enemy is losing. Not the other posters guys. Keep that in perspective, so I don't have to switch to the moderator hat. Respectfully, we didn't just get beat by Michigan. We got slaughtered. I know you love Notre Dame. We all love Notre Dame. But you need to keep into perspective that this just wasn't a loss. I don't see how you can rationally see it any other way than what it is. They beat the hell out of us, and it's a team game. So, saying that the D played well and got tired doesn't diminish the full effect of how badly the result was. It's a team game and a team score. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ELDER06 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 I think ND would be foolish to hit the reset button on the staff now. Nobody likes tough losses but the fact is that the team is competing for the CF playoffs each year. Didn't work out this year but there's obvious forward momentum. There's plenty of room for complaints regarding last night but that doesn't mean you get a new coaching staff. 100% correct. There’s no excusing last night and it’s a black mark on Kelly’s resume, but this talk of firing him is ridiculous and the result of Fantasy Football culture in sports. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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