coltssb Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 Besides the obvious of ND winning out their will be some important games this Saturday(Finally) and throughout the rest of the season. Most notably Oklahoma and Texas. I thought about this for a minute. We WANT Oklahoma to WIN! Why?! Sounds crazy. But it’s not. If Texas wins and they play later all this does is allow for a one-loss Texas or Oklahoma team to jump us after their conference game. So Oklahoma needs to win Saturday and then LOSE to Texas in the Championship game. If Oklahoma beats Texas Saturday, it will probably drop them too far out IF they were to play Oklahoma and win in the championship. So take Oklahoma here. For obvious reasons, we want Iowa to beat Penn State here. Then come beat OSU later. Regardless, I think the b10 and tOSU make it this year in the playoffs. OSU plays Wisconsin and Penn State so this will sort itself out. Either way, tOSU isn’t losing two games in conference play. B10 in SEC- ahh the start of cannibalism begins. It’s actually started last week when Florida beat Auburn. Which is what ND wanted. Florida is going to lose down the road. Probably twice. But Auburn at the best shot to leap ND even with a loss. Two losses probably keeps them one slot below ND. Auburn will BEAT either LSU or Alabama. Mark it down. If that happens, their will be a race for one loss teams for the championship. Which is exactly the way ND wants it. Only problem I see, Georgia is going to trip up somewhere which hurts ND. The SEC is better this year in terms of top heavy then I can remember. That’s just me going off the eye test. ACC- obviously Clemson. Sure they could have their sleepy mishap somewhere. Almost happened against UNC. But I think committee will put Clemson in no matter what. Pac12- over Recap IN SEC champion Clemson B10- tOSU(IMO) That leaves b12 champ, ND, and Boise(not happening) for that last slot. Need that Oklahoma win and then a #14th ranked Texas to revenge that loss in the championship. We have a chance! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tneun89 Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 Besides the obvious of ND winning out their will be some important games this Saturday(Finally) and throughout the rest of the season. Most notably Oklahoma and Texas. I thought about this for a minute. We WANT Oklahoma to WIN! Why?! Sounds crazy. But it’s not. If Texas wins and they play later all this does is allow for a one-loss Texas or Oklahoma team to jump us after their conference game. So Oklahoma needs to win Saturday and then LOSE to Texas in the Championship game. If Oklahoma beats Texas Saturday, it will probably drop them too far out IF they were to play Oklahoma and win in the championship. So take Oklahoma here. For obvious reasons, we want Iowa to beat Penn State here. Then come beat OSU later. Regardless, I think the b10 and tOSU make it this year in the playoffs. OSU plays Wisconsin and Penn State so this will sort itself out. Either way, tOSU isn’t losing two games in conference play. B10 in SEC- ahh the start of cannibalism begins. It’s actually started last week when Florida beat Auburn. Which is what ND wanted. Florida is going to lose down the road. Probably twice. But Auburn at the best shot to leap ND even with a loss. Two losses probably keeps them one slot below ND. Auburn will BEAT either LSU or Alabama. Mark it down. If that happens, their will be a race for one loss teams for the championship. Which is exactly the way ND wants it. Only problem I see, Georgia is going to trip up somewhere which hurts ND. The SEC is better this year in terms of top heavy then I can remember. That’s just me going off the eye test. ACC- obviously Clemson. Sure they could have their sleepy mishap somewhere. Almost happened against UNC. But I think committee will put Clemson in no matter what. Pac12- over Recap IN SEC champion Clemson B10- tOSU(IMO) That leaves b12 champ, ND, and Boise(not happening) for that last slot. Need that Oklahoma win and then a #14th ranked Texas to revenge that loss in the championship. We have a chance! I'd say the SEC has a really good chance to get a 2nd team in this season. If LSU goes 11-1 with their only loss to SEC Champ Alabama, they'd likely get in (they'd have wins against Texas, Florida and Auburn). Or if Georgia goes 12-0 but loses in the SEC Title game to Alabama, they'd be ahead of ND. Same if the reverse happened, if Alabama goes 12-0 but loses to Georgia in the SEC Championship (while their non-conference is a joke, they'd have wins over LSU and Auburn). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbrown_9999 Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 (edited) I'd say the SEC has a really good chance to get a 2nd team in this season. If LSU goes 11-1 with their only loss to SEC Champ Alabama, they'd likely get in (they'd have wins against Texas, Florida and Auburn). Or if Georgia goes 12-0 but loses in the SEC Title game to Alabama, they'd be ahead of ND. Same if the reverse happened, if Alabama goes 12-0 but loses to Georgia in the SEC Championship (while their non-conference is a joke, they'd have wins over LSU and Auburn). I believe that there are at least 7 more losses which are guaranteed to be picked up by some combination of Bama, Georgia, LSU, Auburn and Florida due to head-to-head games. Texas A&M could also add a loss (or two) into the mix for one of those five as well since they still play Bama, LSU and Georgia. If Georgia wins out, then those 7 losses will be spread among four teams. So potentially ND could be in front of 4 SEC teams each with 2 losses (Auburn already having a loss) Edited October 7, 2019 by jbrown_9999 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tneun89 Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 I believe that there are at least 7 more losses which are guaranteed to be picked up by some combination of Bama, Georgia, LSU, Auburn and Florida due to head-to-head games. Texas A&M could also add a loss (or two) into the mix for one of those five as well since they still play Bama, LSU and Georgia. If Georgia wins out, then those 7 losses will be spread among four teams. So potentially ND could be in front of 4 SEC teams each with 2 losses (Auburn already having a loss) Absolutely. I should have said that I don't think that the SEC will end up with 3 1-loss teams or better - the SEC will cannibalize itself - but, I do think that ND is fighting an uphill battle against any 1-loss SEC team, even if they are an 11-1 team that doesn't win its division. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndmike88 Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 Besides the obvious of ND winning out their will be some important games this Saturday(Finally) and throughout the rest of the season. Most notably Oklahoma and Texas. I thought about this for a minute. We WANT Oklahoma to WIN! Why?! Sounds crazy. But it’s not. If Texas wins and they play later all this does is allow for a one-loss Texas or Oklahoma team to jump us after their conference game. So Oklahoma needs to win Saturday and then LOSE to Texas in the Championship game. If Oklahoma beats Texas Saturday, it will probably drop them too far out IF they were to play Oklahoma and win in the championship. So take Oklahoma here. For obvious reasons, we want Iowa to beat Penn State here. Then come beat OSU later. Regardless, I think the b10 and tOSU make it this year in the playoffs. OSU plays Wisconsin and Penn State so this will sort itself out. Either way, tOSU isn’t losing two games in conference play. B10 in SEC- ahh the start of cannibalism begins. It’s actually started last week when Florida beat Auburn. Which is what ND wanted. Florida is going to lose down the road. Probably twice. But Auburn at the best shot to leap ND even with a loss. Two losses probably keeps them one slot below ND. Auburn will BEAT either LSU or Alabama. Mark it down. If that happens, their will be a race for one loss teams for the championship. Which is exactly the way ND wants it. Only problem I see, Georgia is going to trip up somewhere which hurts ND. The SEC is better this year in terms of top heavy then I can remember. That’s just me going off the eye test. ACC- obviously Clemson. Sure they could have their sleepy mishap somewhere. Almost happened against UNC. But I think committee will put Clemson in no matter what. Pac12- over Recap IN SEC champion Clemson B10- tOSU(IMO) That leaves b12 champ, ND, and Boise(not happening) for that last slot. Need that Oklahoma win and then a #14th ranked Texas to revenge that loss in the championship. We have a chance! You have a better chance being struck by lightning on the equator. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasDomer Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 Man, I don't want anything striking my equator. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jessemoore97 Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 We had a chance to control our destiny and make a solid argument being undefeated. This schedule does us zero favors if we win out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coltssb Posted October 8, 2019 Author Share Posted October 8, 2019 We had a chance to control our destiny and make a solid argument being undefeated. This schedule does us zero favors if we win out. Meh, will Clemson even had played a ranked team this year before the championship game? What about Texas or Oklahoma? That will be those two teams only ranked opponent all year. ND is only judged differently because they don't play a conference championship game. So, Clemson beating a Virginia team that we beat will be different because it's a championship game? Oklahoma and Texas get judged differently because they added that sham of a championship game at the end of the year? The b12 is the worst conference of all the power5 teams. But because they play a championship game they get an edge on ND? This is the one year where I don't think the conferences games are going to hurt ND. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jessemoore97 Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 (edited) Meh, will Clemson even had played a ranked team this year before the championship game? What about Texas or Oklahoma? That will be those two teams only ranked opponent all year. ND is only judged differently because they don't play a conference championship game. So, Clemson beating a Virginia team that we beat will be different because it's a championship game? Oklahoma and Texas get judged differently because they added that sham of a championship game at the end of the year? The b12 is the worst conference of all the power5 teams. But because they play a championship game they get an edge on ND? This is the one year where I don't think the conferences games are going to hurt ND. Clemson is the defending NC and has been consistent over the past 5 or so years. Doesn't matter who they play ranked or unranked they will get benefit of their accomplishments. Regardless of whoever else does what, we have to win out. Our only best case was tossed out with a L to UGA. Our destiny is tied to what others do and think beside our own ability to win. The computers will account for no conference champ game like it or not. Our opponents have to win outside the losses we could give them to strengthen our schedule/argument, I'm less than sceptical they can. Edited October 8, 2019 by jessemoore97 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Gloves Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 Let me just say this, I don’t see any scenario that we get into the playoffs. None. Unless literally Armageddon happens. Big10 is in. Most likely OSU. Clemson is in. They aren’t losing. SEC champ is in. Probably Bama again. That means ND would have to beat out OKL who probably isn’t going to lose and it would then be a moot point. But if they did lose we would have to beat out Okla and probably one or two, 1-loss SEC teams. Ain’t gonna happen this year. We may have had a chance if we had a top 10 win left on the schedule but our remaining schedule is too weak as far as rankings go. It will be a NY6 bowl against a SEC one loss team. And I’m fine with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbrown_9999 Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 Interesting read with use of probabilities for teams winning out https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/27786007/the-teams-players-chaos-scenarios-upend-college-football Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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