I know there are a TON of threads out there but here's another giant problem with BK...

 

“With so much on the line and a 10th win and a New Year’s Six (bowl)…it looked like they were in biology class,” Kelly reflected Sunday night after the 9-3 Irish secured a Citrus Bowl bid against 9-3 LSU.

 

“They were staring at me like, ‘Really?’ There was no juice, there was no excitement, and they were tired. They were tired mentally. It’s been a long year and I’ve got to do a better job of pacing that out for them.”

 

Really....He's still trying to figure this out...This is the atmosphere/environment that he has created with ND football....He's that 30 plus year veteran teacher that brings no energy to the classroom...Pulling in his paycheck....waiting to retire....or do something else...

TIME TO GO!

Yeah, that’s pretty damning. Isnt that his job?

I know there are a TON of threads out there but here's another giant problem with BK...

 

“With so much on the line and a 10th win and a New Year’s Six (bowl)…it looked like they were in biology class,” Kelly reflected Sunday night after the 9-3 Irish secured a Citrus Bowl bid against 9-3 LSU.

 

“They were staring at me like, ‘Really?’ There was no juice, there was no excitement, and they were tired. They were tired mentally. It’s been a long year and I’ve got to do a better job of pacing that out for them.”

 

Really....He's still trying to figure this out...This is the atmosphere/environment that he has created with ND football....He's that 30 plus year veteran teacher that brings no energy to the classroom...Pulling in his paycheck....waiting to retire....or do something else...

TIME TO GO!

 

When in doubt...blame the kids. Even if its for not doing your job.

 

From my view it had nothing to do with energy. Teams figured out our defense, figured out we couldn't pass at all, we didn't get better, and coach failed to rotate the backfield even when it was clear Adams was hobbled. That's why we failed over the 2nd half of the season.

When in doubt...blame the kids. Even if its for not doing your job.

 

From my view it had nothing to do with energy. Teams figured out our defense, figured out we couldn't pass at all, we didn't get better, and coach failed to rotate the backfield even when it was clear Adams was hobbled. That's why we failed over the 2nd half of the season.

 

He didn't blame the Kids. He specifically said he had to do a better job

 

And i wonder how many coaches could get their team up every week with the schedule we play. I doubt it is many

He didn't blame the Kids. He specifically said he had to do a better job

 

And i wonder how many coaches could get their team up every week with the schedule we play. I doubt it is many

 

Careful man, don't throw any support for the coach here you might get ran out.

He didn't blame the Kids. He specifically said he had to do a better job

 

And i wonder how many coaches could get their team up every week with the schedule we play. I doubt it is many

 

Isn't that kellys new backhanded way of blaming the players? He'll criticize them then say i have to do a better job.

He didn't blame the Kids. He specifically said he had to do a better job

 

And i wonder how many coaches could get their team up every week with the schedule we play. I doubt it is many

 

He's also said that for the past 8 years....right after making some claim that the players weren't up to snuff for a wide variety of reasons.

 

He's always been pretty good about throwing the player blame caveat out before accepting that it's his responsibility. It's more important that the person asking the question understand that "it's someone else's fault, but my fault that is was their fault."

Blah Blah...

 

The kids peeked themselves with the 33 trucking thing and such...

 

The schedule was brutal...

 

I had fun...They played the best football in a long while...

 

Take a break and come back strong...

Careful man, don't throw any support for the coach here you might get ran out.

 

What would you want? To give him another seven years to find the dining hall?

well if you want Kelly gone...at least ask for the following for the new coach...

 

1) To join the ACC to play for a conf. championship

 

2) To play a much easier schedule

 

3) no travel to the west coast for a crazy end of season match up with usually a top 15 ranked Stanford or USC

 

4) some leniency on academic admissions for a few kids each year

 

5) Limited travel each year for games

 

Changing BK is like changing engines when you still have 4 flat tires (always the car analogy)

well if you want Kelly gone...at least ask for the following for the new coach...

 

1) To join the ACC to play for a conf. championship

 

2) To play a much easier schedule

 

3) no travel to the west coast for a crazy end of season match up with usually a top 15 ranked Stanford or USC

 

4) some leniency on academic admissions for a few kids each year

 

5) Limited travel each year for games

 

Changing BK is like changing engines when you still have 4 flat tires (always the car analogy)

 

 

Here’s a legitimate request. Ask the ACC and SEC to start playing 9 conference games a year. ND has to play the toughest schedule to get in. All the other conferences have to play 9. Why do these two conferences take away a legit opponent for a Mercer. Bama should had played Georgia this year.

He didn't blame the Kids. He specifically said he had to do a better job

 

And i wonder how many coaches could get their team up every week with the schedule we play. I doubt it is many

 

The ones that could are probably considered top coaches by most observers of the game and that is the crux of the matter.

 

I personally feel that Kelly is in the top 25-30 of coaches. Unfortunately, his results keep him from being considered in the top 5 or 10 which is the type of coach that I would like ND to have. I also feel that he deserves little credit for rebounding from 4 wins to 9 wins since 9 wins should be a floor for a ND coach and the 4 wins were the direct result of poor decisions he made regarding his coaching and S&C staff.

Here’s a legitimate request. Ask the ACC and SEC to start playing 9 conference games a year. ND has to play the toughest schedule to get in. All the other conferences have to play 9. Why do these two conferences take away a legit opponent for a Mercer. Bama should had played Georgia this year.

 

That's the problem. Ask every one else to change to accommodate Notre Dame's crazy behavior.

 

Why can't Notre dame just accept the present landscape and make the changes necessary to give themselves a reasonable chance at a NC.

That's the problem. Ask every one else to change to accommodate Notre Dame's crazy behavior.

 

Why can't Notre dame just accept the present landscape and make the changes necessary to give themselves a reasonable chance at a NC.

 

Why? We are playing by the rules. If anything, our standards are even more ridiculous not being in a conference. We play a tougher schedule year long, tougher enrollment than most schools, no conference championship game, and if a team beats us it gives them a jolt in rankings. These other schools should be thanking us and our nonconformist ways. To me, it’s the opposing teams fans that are the only ones complaining about ND.

Teacher analogy...

I'm sitting with a large group of elementary teachers and we're analyzing student data from our state scores...Trying to figure out what we can do to increase our scores...and our own teacher evaluations...

Teacher: Have we ever thought that we're overtesting (elementary) students?...That we're burning them out before they ever take the state test? Between test 1, test 2, test 3, test 4, test 5, I am literally spending 12 weeks of instruction testing students....

Administrator...NO....We have to do all of these tests to drive our instruction....It's a phsycological game and your job to figure that out...

Teacher: Have we ever thought about the fact that these students could give a rat's a$$ about these tests...and that our evaluation that is dependent upon their success on these tests...on one given day...week... is crazy...

Administrator: No...It's a psychological game that you need to figure out...It's your planning/approach/delivery/attitude that creates an environment for these students to be successful...

 

BK is making millions of dollars to do his job...Those comments he made are mind-boggling to me...and one that I would call him on if I were his boss....No excuse for him creating that environment...and you could see it on the field...They failed a test against Miami and he never got them back on track...and it's obviously not the first time it's happened with his teams..

Edited December 5, 20177 yr by irishrb

well if you want Kelly gone...at least ask for the following for the new coach...

 

1) To join the ACC to play for a conf. championship

 

2) To play a much easier schedule

 

3) no travel to the west coast for a crazy end of season match up with usually a top 15 ranked Stanford or USC

 

4) some leniency on academic admissions for a few kids each year

 

5) Limited travel each year for games

 

Changing BK is like changing engines when you still have 4 flat tires (always the car analogy)

 

This almost begs the question whether you're a troll... Methinks you are...

This almost begs the question whether you're a troll... Methinks you are...

 

Why?

 

Everybody keeps saying hire a coach who can do better than BK at ND with all the hurdles BK has.

 

Why don't the posters ever say the Name of this coach?

 

It's like there is a mythical person nobody knows about, who will magically come in and make things better.

If he can't motivate his team after however many years of coaching then maybe he should just retire already.

 

I wasn't around for the Holtz days but I don't think he ever had issues motivating his teams.

He didn't blame the Kids. He specifically said he had to do a better job

 

And i wonder how many coaches could get their team up every week with the schedule we play. I doubt it is many

 

He said he had to do a better job of gtting the captains to motivate the other players, because he and his coaching staff can't do it.

 

“They were staring at me like, ‘Really?’ There was no juice. There was no excitement. It's a long year, and I've got to do a better job of pacing that out for them.”

 

Kelly said he was already plotting ways to fix that on the plane on the way home from the Stanford game in Palo Alto, Calif.

 

“I think there are some things that I can help them with in terms of our leaders and our captains to take that on themselves, because it can't come from us,” he said. “They've got to be able to do it. How we can keep them energized emotionally and mentally during the long stretch of games that we had.

If he can't motivate his team after however many years of coaching then maybe he should just retire already.

 

I wasn't around for the Holtz days but I don't think he ever had issues motivating his teams.

 

Kelly's an excuse maker. The exact opposite of Holtz. As far as a personality, Kelly is a boring bag of cliches. Anybody who ever witnessed a Lou Holtz speech knows that as a motivator Kelly can't hold his jock. Holtz used to mesmerize attendees of those Friday afternoon Quarterback Club lunches. He made the fans want to run through walls. He was truly a master. His players used to explode out of the tunnel.

There is no doubt pacing is an issue. Again, #33Trucking was the end of the road. Everything fell to crap after that. It isn't just energy, though, it is about rotating players and keeping guys healthy. Being able to sit Wimbush against NC was helpful, though that kind of passing game for him could have helped a lot, but you have to rotate guys. By the time the 33Trucking hats shipped Adams was #BeatAndBusted.

 

Under BK I am forced to wonder if they will ever get past that "Uh oh here we go again" mindset any time you hit a bump in the road. That, in my mind, is why things go so bad so fast. Fixable problems don't get fixed because everyone is caught up in the wheels coming off mentality. As a coach you have to be able to get guys fired up, but you also have to get guys calmed down when things are going haywire.

 

Meyer (not lauding him just an example) was able to get his team back on track after a fair beating in game 2 against Oklahoma and after an awful beating by Iowa. If Kelly is able to get the guys settled back down after the Miami fallout then things look up. Instead they sneak past Navy and fall apart against Stanford.