Yes, I realize that he isn't the committee but he said the #1 objective of the committee is to get the best 4 teams in the playoff regardless of conference championships. He said if ND wins they're locked in.

 

I found this supportive of what I already believed. But I would add one contingency: That we need to keep dominating other teams. They don't have to be 20+ wins but we need to continue to show we belong.

How would he know? Did he recently join the committee?

 

You honestly think if we narrowly beat all our opponents and Ohio St and/or OU blow out the rest of theirs including the conference title game opponent, we would still be in ahead of them? Highly, highly doubt it.

 

Herbstreit is an analyst not a committee member. His opinion carries as much weight as you and I's.

Is this Okies only thread???? Yeah, we need to win big. We need USC to keep winning and they should. It sure looks good right now but our schedule could take a huge hit this week.

Is this Okies only thread???? Yeah, we need to win big. We need USC to keep winning and they should. It sure looks good right now but our schedule could take a huge hit this week.

The playoff format is the perfect design illustrating,"It's not where you start but where you finish." We're off to a good start, now just need to stay there. I like our chances of getting in if we run out, but we'll need some help which I think we have a good chance to get. OU/Ohio St/Clemson losing this weekend would be a great start.

 

Yes, this thread is for Okies only.

i think this its pretty self evident,,,,

 

we are #3

 

We simply cannot drop with wins over Miami & Stanford and 2 other winning teams-----

 

The LOSER of the Alabama Georgia battle (assuming they play each other in the SEC C G, something not in cement at all)

 

The loser can hope to make a case for the 4 spot---a weak case since the committee IMHO will be very reluctant to reward a loss in the final game...

 

But for us its MORE LIKELY WE ARE THE SECOND SEED at 11-1 then we somehow slip to the 4th seed

 

5th just IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN to an 11-1 irish team

 

GETTING in at 11 -1 is a LOCK

 

Getting to 11-1 is the OBSTACLE we should worry about

 

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How would he know? Did he recently join the committee?

 

You honestly think if we narrowly beat all our opponents and Ohio St and/or OU blow out the rest of theirs including the conference title game opponent, we would still be in ahead of them? Highly, highly doubt it.

 

Herbstreit is an analyst not a committee member. His opinion carries as much weight as you and I's.

 

I'm a little confused by your remark as I clearly stated, "I have one contingency that we continue dominating other teams". The point being that not EVERY game need be a 20+ blowout. We beat Miami, for instance by 10 and they continue winning and we're still blowing teams off the ball running roughshod over them then we're in.

 

I think if we win, we're in.

I'm a little confused by your remark as I clearly stated, "I have one contingency that we continue dominating other teams". The point being that not EVERY game need be a 20+ blowout. We beat Miami, for instance by 10 and they continue winning and we're still blowing teams off the ball running roughshod over them then we're in.

 

I think if we win, we're in.

To clear up any confusion, the title of your thread was regarding Herbstreit's assertion not yours. Your assertion was conditional, his was not. Why are you posting about Herbstreit's thoughts if you don't want people to discuss it?

 

Things will sort themselves out. I cannot emphasize enough that this is simply the 1st week. Great start but need to keep it up. Big weekend for our SOS. I'll feel much better if Miami wins along with an upset for Ohio St/Clemson or OU losing to Oklahoma St.

I put a lot of faith in what herbstreit says....he is IMO the only logical cfb crew member at ESPN....I think it will be extremely difficult to leave ND out if they win out

 

If Georgia loses the SEC championship to go to 12-1 I think ND should be in ahead of UGA....a one point loss at home aided by an insane roughing the passer call on 3rd and forever

 

I actually would love for this to happen: 1) Bama 2) ND 3) UGA 4) Clemson

 

If a One loser Big 12 champ and one loss Big Ten champ don’t get in we will have an 8 team playoff before you know it (which is what it should’ve been the whole time except the NCAA is moronic and wanted a different system from the FCS even though it’s super exciting)

I put a lot of faith in what herbstreit says....he is IMO the only logical cfb crew member at ESPN....I think it will be extremely difficult to leave ND out if they win out

 

If Georgia loses the SEC championship to go to 12-1 I think ND should be in ahead of UGA....a one point loss at home aided by an insane roughing the passer call on 3rd and forever

 

I actually would love for this to happen: 1) Bama 2) ND 3) UGA 4) Clemson

 

If a One loser Big 12 champ and one loss Big Ten champ don’t get in we will have an 8 team playoff before you know it (which is what it should’ve been the whole time except the NCAA is moronic and wanted a different system from the FCS even though it’s super exciting)

 

 

Believe it or not, Joey Galloway has been pretty unbiased too. He had ND 3rd before the rankings even came out.

I think it will be extremely difficult to leave ND out if they win out

If Ohio St or OU win out (or even both), especially in dominating fashion, it will be even more difficult to leave either (or both) out over ND.

 

They will both have more wins than us.

OU has a more impressive victory than anything we can offer.

They will have a conference title. The committee fessing up to the Big X or Big XII is something they probably don't want to get into.

They also have a better recent showing than the last few years in bowl games. When was the last time ND won a big bowl game?

OU beat Bama in the Sugar Bowl in 2014 and has been to 4 national title games winning 1 in 2000 since the millennium

Ohio St has been to 4 national title games since the millennium winning 2.

 

Notre Dame, since the millennium, cannot hold a candle to either of these programs historically.

 

It will not be near as difficult as you may think to leave ND out if either of these teams runs out, especially convincingly.

 

Clemson doesn't concern but quite as much because the ACC is down this year. But, they have outstanding recent success and still coming in at 4.

 

Folks, we're going to need more than to just win the rest of our games.

If Ohio St or OU win out (or even both), especially in dominating fashion, it will be even more difficult to leave either (or both) out over ND.

 

They will both have more wins than us.

OU has a more impressive victory than anything we can offer.

They will have a conference title. The committee fessing up to the Big X or Big XII is something they probably don't want to get into.

They also have a better recent showing than the last few years in bowl games. When was the last time ND won a big bowl game?

OU beat Bama in the Sugar Bowl in 2014 and has been to 4 national title games winning 1 in 2000 since the millennium

Ohio St has been to 4 national title games since the millennium winning 2.

 

Notre Dame, since the millennium, cannot hold a candle to either of these programs historically.

 

It will not be near as difficult as you may think to leave ND out if either of these teams runs out, especially convincingly.

 

Clemson doesn't concern but quite as much because the ACC is down this year. But, they have outstanding recent success and still coming in at 4.

 

Folks, we're going to need more than to just win the rest of our games.

 

Oklahoma isnt winning out convincingly, they're barely squeaking by bad teams right now and have some rough games left. I'm not worried at all about them.

 

Ohio state and Clemson winning out and winning their conferences is a real concern but my guess is that they'll be competing with eachother for the last spot.

Oklahoma isnt winning out convincingly, they're barely squeaking by bad teams right now and have some rough games left. I'm not worried at all about them.

 

Ohio state and Clemson winning out and winning their conferences is a real concern but my guess is that they'll be competing with eachother for the last spot.

Even if OU doesn't win out convincingly, they will have a far better victory than ND. Also have beaten more top programs than ND (Ohio St, Oklahoma St, TCU, & potentially the Big XII champion). I've already stated their other superior attributes they would boast.

 

Georgia is an enormous piece in this puzzle. If they do run out and ND runs out think we have a very good chance. I cannot wait Georgia and Bama as they are headed for a huge collision.

Even if OU doesn't win out convincingly, they will have a far better victory than ND. Also have beaten more top programs than ND (Ohio St, Oklahoma St, TCU, & potentially the Big XII champion). I've already stated their other superior attributes they would boast.

 

Georgia is an enormous piece in this puzzle. If they do run out and ND runs out think we have a very good chance. I cannot wait Georgia and Bama as they are headed for a huge collision.

 

I agree about Georgia and bama, that'll be a great one. And you're right if Oklahoma wins out they could pose a problem I just think thats highly unlikely looking at their play over the last month and what's ahead of them starting Saturday with ok st.

Even if OU doesn't win out convincingly, they will have a far better victory than ND. Also have beaten more top programs than ND (Ohio St, Oklahoma St, TCU, & potentially the Big XII champion). I've already stated their other superior attributes they would boast.

 

Georgia is an enormous piece in this puzzle. If they do run out and ND runs out think we have a very good chance. I cannot wait Georgia and Bama as they are headed for a huge collision.

 

OU also has a worse loss than ND. Further, who cares that OU won a title in 2000??? What relevance does that have to this year???? We can potentially have wins over 6 top 25 teams—that is better than what OU can do. Also, OU better worry about OSU—the cowboys Oline is healthy now and I think they will beat OU.

 

I’m not saying ND is a lock, but I’m not worried about OU taking our spot.

 

I’m much more worried about a Clemson or OSU taking it as I don’t think either of those teams loses again this year. If GA and Bama play a close game I could see both of them getting in and then causing a problem.

If Ohio St or OU win out (or even both), especially in dominating fashion, it will be even more difficult to leave either (or both) out over ND.

 

They will both have more wins than us.

OU has a more impressive victory than anything we can offer.

They will have a conference title. The committee fessing up to the Big X or Big XII is something they probably don't want to get into.

They also have a better recent showing than the last few years in bowl games. When was the last time ND won a big bowl game?

OU beat Bama in the Sugar Bowl in 2014 and has been to 4 national title games winning 1 in 2000 since the millennium

Ohio St has been to 4 national title games since the millennium winning 2.

 

Notre Dame, since the millennium, cannot hold a candle to either of these programs historically.

 

It will not be near as difficult as you may think to leave ND out if either of these teams runs out, especially convincingly.

 

Clemson doesn't concern but quite as much because the ACC is down this year. But, they have outstanding recent success and still coming in at 4.

 

Folks, we're going to need more than to just win the rest of our games.

 

I agree with everything except for your argument that recent decades will have anything to do with how the rankings play out. The 2017 ND team should not be punished for the past two decades of futility.

 

I think we would all agree that this team is different than any ND team we have seen in a long time. While I think the 2012 defense had more NFL talent, I think the 2017 team is the better overall team. The 2012 team was great, don't get me wrong, but they were very lucky to get to 12-0.

 

The 2017 team just beat two Top 15 teams in back-to-back weeks for the first time since 1989. The 2017 team has won 6 games in a row by 20 points or more for the first time since 1966. This team is different and can hang with anyone in the country. I don't necessarily think we'd beat Alabama, but it would be much closer than 42-14.

 

In the same vein, Oklahoma and Ohio State should't be propped up because of what they have done in past seasons. Do I think one or both of them would have better resumes at 12-1 than an 11-1 ND? Definitely possible. But it depends on how the rest of the season plays out, obviously. Right now the Big Ten and Big 12 appear to be pretty competitive conferences. But let's see how many teams are left in the Top 25 at season's end.

OU also has a worse loss than ND. Further, who cares that OU won a title in 2000??? What relevance does that have to this year???? We can potentially have wins over 6 top 25 teams—that is better than what OU can do. Also, OU better worry about OSU—the cowboys Oline is healthy now and I think they will beat OU.

 

I’m not saying ND is a lock, but I’m not worried about OU taking our spot.

 

I’m much more worried about a Clemson or OSU taking it as I don’t think either of those teams loses again this year. If GA and Bama play a close game I could see both of them getting in and then causing a problem.

The committee, generally, values impressive victories over impressive losses as they should.

 

OU will have a more impressive victory than ND beating Ohio St by 15 on the road.

Iowa St is not that bad of a loss, anymore, as they are actually headed to the conference title game.

Under my scenario, OU would have a conference title, more victories, and more impressive victories.

 

@ Ohio St (#6 currently), @ Oklahoma St (#11 currently- many feel underrated), TCU (#8 currently), and they'll have won the Big XII (heck even ISU is #15 currently)

 

ND's sos schedule could, very well, go down after this week. No way Stanford beats WSU this week without Love. Highly doubt they beat Washington either. Hate to break it to you but this is not going to be that impressive of a way to end the season.

 

Miami is overrated as many know. Many doubt they'll even win this week. More than likely, they'll end the season with 3 losses.

 

USC and NCST are impressive but both have 2 losses currently and NCST will likely have a 3rd after this week. So, that leaves an injury riddled USC team or an overrated Miami team as our most impressive victory.

 

OU's sos will be better than ND's by season end. That combined with more victories and a conference title could be the deciding factors.

I agree with everything except for your argument that recent decades will have anything to do with how the rankings play out. The 2017 ND team should not be punished for the past two decades of futility.

Sure they shouldn't, but that doesn't mean they won't. Urban has proven he can take his team to title games and win them. Kelly hasn't. How is it unfair that the committee takes this into consideration when the deciding teams could be this close? The same scenario can be used with Clemson and Swinney v. Kelly. OU with Riley I can see, so maybe it won't matter as much. It's a mindset also. OU, Clemson, and Ohio St believe they will go to the playoff and do well because they are used to this. It's a confidence factor, and this is very important to consider.

 

As I stated in my last post here, get ready for our SOS to take a hit as the season progresses. This combined with 1 less victory and no title game aren't going to do us any favors if it's a close decision.

The committee, generally, values impressive victories over impressive losses as they should.

 

OU will have a more impressive victory than ND beating Ohio St by 15 on the road.

Iowa St is not that bad of a loss, anymore, as they are actually headed to the conference title game.

Under my scenario, OU would have a conference title, more victories, and more impressive victories.

 

@ Ohio St (#6 currently), @ Oklahoma St (#11 currently- many feel underrated), TCU (#8 currently), and they'll have won the Big XII (heck even ISU is #15 currently)

 

ND's sos schedule could, very well, go down after this week. No way Stanford beats WSU this week without Love. Highly doubt they beat Washington either. Hate to break it to you but this is not going to be that impressive of a way to end the season.

 

Miami is overrated as many know. Many doubt they'll even win this week. More than likely, they'll end the season with 3 losses.

 

USC and NCST are impressive but both have 2 losses currently and NCST will likely have a 3rd after this week. So, that leaves an injury riddled USC team or an overrated Miami team as our most impressive victory.

 

OU's sos will be better than ND's by season end. That combined with more victories and a conference title could be the deciding factors.

 

I understand your point but that is assuming OU doesn’t lose. I’ve seen them play lately. They were better earlier in the year and that’s when they beat OSU. If they played again now OSU would win by 2 TDS.

 

The reason I am saying I’m not worried about them is because I think they will lose again. Either vs OSU or in the Big 12 championship game.

 

They just don’t pass the eye test with me right now.

I understand your point but that is assuming OU doesn’t lose. I’ve seen them play lately. They were better earlier in the year and that’s when they beat OSU. If they played again now OSU would win by 2 TDS.

 

The reason I am saying I’m not worried about them is because I think they will lose again. Either vs OSU or in the Big 12 championship game.

 

They just don’t pass the eye test with me right now.

Great, I agree with you that if they lose again they aren't a threat. Hopefully, my wife and I's alma mater will provide OU that loss on Saturday.

Great, I agree with you that if they lose again they aren't a threat. Hopefully, my wife and I's alma mater will provide OU that loss on Saturday.

 

I’d love to see it! Are you going to the game? That looks like a great venue!

I’d love to see it! Are you going to the game? That looks like a great venue!

No sir lol. Too much of a ND fan to go. It is nuts up there. Oklahoma St lives for the game and the schools hate each other. Their relationship is kind of like a big-little brother set up. Going to be a fantastic game.