hawaiiirish 62 Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 "Kizer's passes are a thing of beauty " says QB coach david lee, " he has a great future in the mold of Roethlisberger and flacco , he has a chance to be special"..... Kizer is considered not quite ready to start yet, despite being given first team reps and raves in camp....... The staff there absolutely loves him and we may very well see him this season , probably not in his best interest but nonetheless they 'love his game " in Cleveland aloha's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LasVegasIrish 0 Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 The Reothlisberger comp in interesting. He's always reminded me of Luck, body wise and athletically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coltssb 1,125 Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 The Reothlisberger comp in interesting. He's always reminded me of Luck, body wise and athletically. Rothlisberger could move decent when he first started. He was always and still is very difficult to bring down. I think thats what they are comparing. Luck probably has more speed or willingness to run at the next level. I see Kizer staying in the pocket and shuffling his feet side to side and staying in the pocket. Much like Ben. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankus 210 Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 I drove from Cleveland to SB on Thursday and listened to the ESPN Cleveland talk radio. They said the coach wanted Kessler to step up and take the job, but he hasn't. They are impressed with Kizer's arm, but said he's also been making bad decisions and throwing int's. So, they were wondering if they would rely on the steadier Kessler and a better defense, or roll the dice with Kizer., take their lumps while he grew and play for 2018. They were impressed with Kizer's work ethic. Kizer told a reporter that preparing for the NFL was like taking Calculus. If you skipped one day you'd be behind all season. They liked that answer. In Cleveland fashion, they were bemoaning the bad luck that their first round pick-the first guy drafted overall- got hurt in a no contact drill and -at the time- they were speculating he may be out for the entire season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LasVegasIrish 0 Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 Rothlisberger could move decent when he first started. He was always and still is very difficult to bring down. I think thats what they are comparing. Luck probably has more speed or willingness to run at the next level. I see Kizer staying in the pocket and shuffling his feet side to side and staying in the pocket. Much like Ben. Definitely. I'd say Kizer is in the middle when it comes to athletic talent compared to them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VCDomer 75 Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 So Kessler is going to start over Osweiller? I hope Kizer does not get thrust into playing this year. It would do him good to sit, learn and refine his technique. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ELDER06 248 Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 So Kessler is going to start over Osweiller? I hope Kizer does not get thrust into playing this year. It would do him good to sit, learn and refine his technique. If he's forced to start, it will ruin his career, just like Clausen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FaithInIrish Forever 5,573 Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 Tools aren't really a problem. It was the lack of a "go to" guy in crunch time. Hopefully he develops the ability to find his 3rd and 4th receiver in a progression. Tom Brady and guys like that are their own go to guy. Where the play is always alive until their last reed. That's what separates a guy witth the tools from an MVP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish_Convert 1 Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 If I remember right, David Lee is a top notch QB coach. I'm sure he'll get the best out of DK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddieAngel 606 Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 If he's forced to start, it will ruin his career, just like Clausen. That is my fear as well. Quinn didn't fare well in that situation either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irishwavend 706 Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 The Reothlisberger comp in interesting. He's always reminded me of Luck, body wise and athletically. He's always reminded me of Big Ben. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndomer4 532 Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 That is my fear as well. Quinn didn't fare well in that situation either. Quinn was never forced to start though, they had Derek Anderson starting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LasVegasIrish 0 Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 He's always reminded me of Big Ben. I can definitely see it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coltssb 1,125 Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 I can definitely see it. The only difference with Ben is he's able to slide and throw a dart. He's smart on knowing where is guys are. Kizer is more like like Luck when he just takes off. If he can learn and be more like Ben then I think he'll be successful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTennant 290 Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 So Kessler is going to start over Osweiller? I hope Kizer does not get thrust into playing this year. It would do him good to sit, learn and refine his technique. LOL. Srsly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawaiiirish 62 Posted July 3, 2017 Author Share Posted July 3, 2017 Report USA today " Kizer has made the biggest leap of all browns QBs" Having " narrowed the gap" in the QB competition.....Kizer may force Hue Jacksons hand if his strong play continues through camp and pre season games. Asked how Kizer compares to cody Kessler who threw harder at the combine " Its true that Kizers ball speed at the combine was measured at 52 compared to Kessler at 55, but Kizer has a better deep ball and his touch and accuracy have improved under H jackson and david lee. All of the QBs improved but Kizer has had the biggest leap" "Kizer has done nothing but impress. If he is ready to handle the defenses the NFL will throw at him Kizer should start. the Browns have some impressive young talent but are still a couple of years away. With that in mind and given the strong offensive line Cleveland has giving a young QB consistent reps in live games would be invaluable to his development." aloha's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasDomer 1,486 Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 I do think that Kizer, and EVERY rookie QB.... would benefit by sitting that first year. How many times have we seen a rookie's confidence shattered irreparably by getting thrown in too soon? How many times on the Browns alone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LasVegasIrish 0 Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 I'm not surprised Kizer is impressing, especially over guys like Kessler and Osweiler. He's clearly more talented than both. I've been a proponent of him sitting though. As much as I would love to see him play this year, sitting is still probably better for his future. I wouldn't mind if he sees action every now and then though. Get his feet wet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VCDomer 75 Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 LOL. Srsly? What am I missing JT? I guess I don't see either Kessler or Osweiller as the answer, but I thought the Browns were going to let Osweiller and Kessler compete for the starting job with Osweiller having the inside track. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTennant 290 Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 What am I missing JT? I guess I don't see either Kessler or Osweiller as the answer, but I thought the Browns were going to let Osweiller and Kessler compete for the starting job with Osweiller having the inside track. Cody Kessler is starting over a QB with a $60 million contract... just wow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddieAngel 606 Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 Cody Kessler is starting over a QB with a $60 million contract... just wow Because Osweiller is looking like the Charlie Weis of NFL QBs. Do just enough to get a huge contract and then phone it in for the rest of your career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndomer4 532 Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 Report USA today " Kizer has made the biggest leap of all browns QBs" Having " narrowed the gap" in the QB competition.....Kizer may force Hue Jacksons hand if his strong play continues through camp and pre season games. Asked how Kizer compares to cody Kessler who threw harder at the combine " Its true that Kizers ball speed at the combine was measured at 52 compared to Kessler at 55, but Kizer has a better deep ball and his touch and accuracy have improved under H jackson and david lee. All of the QBs improved but Kizer has had the biggest leap" "Kizer has done nothing but impress. If he is ready to handle the defenses the NFL will throw at him Kizer should start. the Browns have some impressive young talent but are still a couple of years away. With that in mind and given the strong offensive line Cleveland has giving a young QB consistent reps in live games would be invaluable to his development." aloha's Not that it matters but I'm surprised Kessler throws the ball harder. I thought if kizer had anything on most qbs it was his ability to throw the fast ball. Either Kizer had an off day or Kessler has a deceptively strong arm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish_Convert 1 Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Just like college, you can't gauge anything by practices/preseason. I'm in the camp that believes Cleveland should let him sit a year because one of the biggest adjustments a rookie QB has to adjust to is the speed of the game compared to college. Let him ride the pine and observe from the sidelines. It's the same reason I don't like to toss a true freshman right out of HS into the college game, particularly a position like QB that requires a player being capable of processing information quickly. It's not that there's zero potential for success and some rookies shine their first year but there's also the threat of a sophomore slump once opposing teams have a season's worth of film to study. It's possible you'll hear "We want Kizer!" chants in Cleveland but I don't think it would be best for his development at the pro level. I don't really have a dog in that hunt when it comes to The Browns other than when a Notre Dame player lands there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VCDomer 75 Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 Just like college, you can't gauge anything by practices/preseason. I'm in the camp that believes Cleveland should let him sit a year because one of the biggest adjustments a rookie QB has to adjust to is the speed of the game compared to college. Let him ride the pine and observe from the sidelines. It's the same reason I don't like to toss a true freshman right out of HS into the college game, particularly a position like QB that requires a player being capable of processing information quickly. It's not that there's zero potential for success and some rookies shine their first year but there's also the threat of a sophomore slump once opposing teams have a season's worth of film to study. It's possible you'll hear "We want Kizer!" chants in Cleveland but I don't think it would be best for his development at the pro level. I don't really have a dog in that hunt when it comes to The Browns other than when a Notre Dame player lands there. Chants don't mean anything in Cleveland. They chanted for Brady Quinn too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VCDomer 75 Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 Because Osweiller is looking like the Charlie Weis of NFL QBs. Do just enough to get a huge contract and then phone it in for the rest of your career. I give you Matt Flynn Packer fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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