Top 3 Coaches...

[Handsome Jack 0]

The top 3 coaches in cfb are Midwestern catholics..

Saban

Meyer

Harbaugh

 

Midwestern catholics seem to have it going on.

 

Note Dame is Midwestern.

Note Dame is Catholic.

 

Do you see a problem here?

Edited June 17, 2017 by FaithInIrishForever

[davislove 0]

Saban

Meyer

Harbaugh

 

Midwestern catholics seem to have it going on.

 

Note Dame is Midwestern.

Note Dame is Catholic.

 

Do you see a problem here?

 

Yep. You don't know when to stop posting

[ELDER06 248]

The ignore feature is a beautiful thing, use it.

[davislove 0]

The ignore feature is a beautiful thing, use it.

 

I can ignore him without blocking him when i choose. He doesn't bother me. Most people know his intentions and just let it roll off.

[The eND 0]

I think Dabo has to be in top 3, IMO.

although I can see it being tough to get in top 3.

Dabo does have a national title, Harbaugh does not.

 

And guys, guys, guys. If you don't want to discuss the topic mentioned just don't reply. Being irrelevant is the ultimate death. Paying attention to those you wish not to associate with only gives them more credence.

[Handsome Jack 0]

I think Dabo has to be in top 3, IMO.

although I can see it being tough to get in top 3.

Dabo does have a national title, Harbaugh does not.

 

And guys, guys, guys. If you don't want to discuss the topic mentioned just don't reply. Being irrelevant is the ultimate death. Paying attention to those you wish not to associate with only gives them more credence.

 

The good news is that when Kelly is gone, we have our pick of the top coaches to replace him!

[The eND 0]

The good news is that when Kelly is gone, we have our pick of the top coaches to replace him!

 

No we don't. Those guys don't want to come here and have the restrictions placed on them around recruiting.

[davislove 0]

The good news is that when Kelly is gone, we have our pick of the top coaches to replace him!

 

Ah, yes. Maybe we could get all three to form a super team.

 

I vote that under bk notre dame should change their name from fighting irish to the possums. Because we play dead at home and get killed on the road.

[ELDER06 248]

Ah, yes. Maybe we could get all three to form a super team.

 

I vote that under bk notre dame should change their name from fighting irish to the possums. Because we play dead at home and get killed on the road.

 

TBH, That's pretty funny.

[Rockets Revenge 0]

Harbaugh is not a top 3 coach. He hasn't won anything in college and can't beat Urban Liar. Additionally, he would never come to ND. He is a Michigan alum.

[ELDER06 248]

There's a big gap b/w the top 2 and whomever you choose as 3rd.

[Irish_Convert 1]

They would never have the same success that they've had at their current schools at ND. Meyer would at least grasp the culture and know what he was getting into and that's one of the reasons he's a pipe dream.

[TheRizz 5]

Harbaugh is not a top 3 coach. He hasn't won anything in college and can't beat Urban Liar. Additionally' date=' he would never come to ND. He is a Michigan alum.[/quote']

 

Did you see his Stanfords team roll ?

[corysold 0]

Did you see his Stanfords team roll ?

 

Did you?

 

He had one season at Stanford with more than 8 wins. His 12 win season, they beat two ranked teams all year (Arizona and Va. Tech), neither of which were powerhouse teams.

 

I'd say his 2010 Stanford team good, but they weren't some crazy amazing juggernaut. They had a favorable schedule and took advantage of it. The one game against a top 10 team, they lost by 21.

 

Even at Michigan he hasn't beaten many of the top teams he has played. We give Kelly crap all the time for not beating the top teams, but Harbaugh is 3-6 vs. top 10 teams in his college career.

 

In fact, vs. top 10 teams at their BCS level schools, Harbaugh is 3-6, Kelly is 2-5. Kelly has 11 wins over ranked teams in 7 seasons. Harbaugh has 10 in 6 seasons. Harbaugh has three 10+ win seasons, Kelly has two. Both have 1 top 5 finish.

 

But we want to run Kelly out of town and Harbaugh is a top 3 coach in college football. Sounds about right.

[NoCal Irish 0]

I'd have

 

Sweeney

 

Petersen (did so much with so little at Boise St and now is a national player at Washington)

 

and probably Meyer over Saban...

 

In my opinion coaching up players is > winning championships with (double or even triple) stacked teams...

 

tifwiw

[KamaraPolice 0]

I realize now that there's a political aspect of dabo swinney that is probably alluring to people so I'm deleting my comment .

Edited June 17, 2017 by KamaraPolice

[davislove 0]

 

In my opinion coaching up players is > winning championships with (double or even triple) stacked teams...

 

tifwiw

 

You say that...

 

 

Wasn't Bk praised for being able to plug in players and win at UC?

 

Do you know why notre dame's football program doesn't have a website?

 

Because they can't put 3 W's in a row.

 

I got a million of them.

[coltssb 1,125]

Harbaugh slapped Carroll silly during his final year or two. That's when USC had been a juggernaut and making us cry for ten years. He even ran the score up on lil Pete. That's good enough for me. He also took over a winless team the Year before. I believe...He was just getting things rolling at Stanford.

[corysold 0]

Harbaugh slapped Carroll silly during his final year or two. That's when USC had been a juggernaut and making us cry for ten years. He even ran the score up on lil Pete. That's good enough for me. He also took over a winless team the Year before. I believe...He was just getting things rolling at Stanford.

 

All true. I'm not saying Kelly is better than Harbaugh or his equal. Simply that if you put their resumes next to each other, the average fan wouldn't know who was who in a blind sample. But one is being called a top 3 coach and one is being run out of ND.

 

Basically, I think Harbaugh is being dramatically overrated for what he has actually accomplished.

 

There is no way Harbaugh can be ahead of Dabo Swinney on any coaching list. Clemson has twelve 10+ win seasons in their entire history (6 of which belong to Dabo) and hadn't had one since 1990. Now Dabo has 6 in a row, plus a national title. Pretty impressive.

Edited June 17, 2017 by corysold

[Irish_Convert 1]

Harbaugh has been pretty consistent as far as his coaching style goes. BK has waffled back and forth between different approaches since he has been at ND.

 

I do not think BK is a bad coach, I just think he needs to put his stamp on the team and be done with it. Flip flopping between different coordinators, offensive and defensive philosophies is a chemistry and consistency killer.

[coltssb 1,125]

All true. I'm not saying Kelly is better than Harbaugh or his equal. Simply that if you put their resumes next to each other, the average fan wouldn't know who was who in a blind sample. But one is being called a top 3 coach and one is being run out of ND.

 

Basically, I think Harbaugh is being dramatically overrated for what he has actually accomplished.

 

There is no way Harbaugh can be ahead of Dabo Swinney on any coaching list. Clemson has twelve 10+ win seasons in their entire history (6 of which belong to Dabo) and hadn't had one since 1990. Now Dabo has 6 in a row, plus a national title. Pretty impressive.

 

I like what your selling but I'm only buying at a discount price. Swinney is a top 4 coach to me. He could be ahead of Harbaugh or at the same level. Harbaugh has taken over crap program after crap program(wins and losses)and has had instant results. San Diego St., Stanford, 49ers, and Michigan. And although Clemson wasn't good either when Swinney took over, he hasn't done that like Harbaugh has at 4 different programs. That's why he gets his kudos. I like to see Swinney do that at some point. But both are pretty damn good any way you slice it.

[corysold 0]

I like what your selling but I'm only buying at a discount price. Swinney is a top 4 coach to me. He could be ahead of Harbaugh or at the same level. Harbaugh has taken over crap program after crap program(wins and losses)and has had instant results. San Diego St., Stanford, 49ers, and Michigan. And although Clemson wasn't good either when Swinney took over, he hasn't done that like Harbaugh has at 4 different programs. That's why he gets his kudos. I like to see Swinney do that at some point. But both are pretty damn good any way you slice it.

 

I guess we will just have to see where Harbaugh's career goes from here. It seems to me he is doing it with a bit of smoke and mirrors and favorable schedules.

 

His best win ever was over USC. That USC team finished with 11 wins, they weren't the Carroll era juggernuat USC teams.

 

Other than that, his "signature wins" are Va. Tech, Oregon, Florida, Penn St. and Wisconsin. None of those teams were in contention for national titles in those years. In fact, Harbaugh has never beaten a team that finished with 12+ wins. Even Kelly can say he's done that.

 

Meanwhile, in just the last two years, Swinney beat Stoops, Meyer and Saban in the playoffs. That is quite the feat if you ask me.

 

In fact, he's beaten Meyer twice (which Harbaugh hasn't mananged at all), not to mention Les Miles, Steve Spurrier and Jimbo Fisher. He's beaten every active coach who has won a national title and three who have retired. Harbaugh hasn't beaten any of them adn only has Carroll on his list. 6 to 1 isn't really close. He has at least 3 wins over 12+ win teams that I can count. The resumes to this point aren't even close in my opinion.

Edited June 17, 2017 by corysold

[Handsome Jack 0]

All true. I'm not saying Kelly is better than Harbaugh or his equal. Simply that if you put their resumes next to each other, the average fan wouldn't know who was who in a blind sample. But one is being called a top 3 coach and one is being run out of ND.

 

Basically, I think Harbaugh is being dramatically overrated for what he has actually accomplished.

 

There is no way Harbaugh can be ahead of Dabo Swinney on any coaching list. Clemson has twelve 10+ win seasons in their entire history (6 of which belong to Dabo) and hadn't had one since 1990. Now Dabo has 6 in a row, plus a national title. Pretty impressive.

Kelly does not belong in the same breath as Harbaugh. Kelly is a 7-5 coach who had one fluke season 5 years ago.....and was prison raped in the title game.

[jmfinsd 17]

I like what your selling but I'm only buying at a discount price. Swinney is a top 4 coach to me. He could be ahead of Harbaugh or at the same level. Harbaugh has taken over crap program after crap program(wins and losses)and has had instant results. San Diego St., Stanford, 49ers, and Michigan. And although Clemson wasn't good either when Swinney took over, he hasn't done that like Harbaugh has at 4 different programs. That's why he gets his kudos. I like to see Swinney do that at some point. But both are pretty damn good any way you slice it.

 

Small error. Harbaugh coached at University of San Diego, not San Diego State. Did well there but got run out of Catholic university after arrested for DUI (and some other questionable events) and a suspect resolution.

[Frankus 210]

I guess we will just have to see where Harbaugh's career goes from here. It seems to me he is doing it with a bit of smoke and mirrors and favorable schedules.

 

His best win ever was over USC. That USC team finished with 11 wins, they weren't the Carroll era juggernuat USC teams.

 

Other than that, his "signature wins" are Va. Tech, Oregon, Florida, Penn St. and Wisconsin. None of those teams were in contention for national titles in those years. In fact, Harbaugh has never beaten a team that finished with 12+ wins. Even Kelly can say he's done that.

 

Meanwhile, in just the last two years, Swinney beat Stoops, Meyer and Saban in the playoffs. That is quite the feat if you ask me.

 

In fact, he's beaten Meyer twice (which Harbaugh hasn't mananged at all), not to mention Les Miles, Steve Spurrier and Jimbo Fisher. He's beaten every active coach who has won a national title and three who have retired. Harbaugh hasn't beaten any of them adn only has Carroll on his list. 6 to 1 isn't really close. He has at least 3 wins over 12+ win teams that I can count. The resumes to this point aren't even close in my opinion.

 

Except that Harbaugh was the AP NFL coach of the year in 2011and went to two NFC Championship games and a Super Bowl in four years of NFL coaching. Sweeney's gonna have to do something in the NFL to equal Harbaugh, who's just getting his juggernaught going at Michigan.