Lord Byron 0 Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 http://www.washingtonpost.com/sf/sports/wp/2017/01/29/following-the-signs/ There are many articles on this topic floating out there. This one seemed to have many familiar names, I thought I post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
echo88 74 Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 Hahaha "come to ND and enjoy a lucrative career in the shipping industry!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddieAngel 603 Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 Hahaha "come to ND and enjoy a lucrative career in the shipping industry!" Sounds better than "come to Florida State and enjoy a realize your dreams of becoming assistant manager at Walmart." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddieAngel 603 Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 Dang, ND had 7 of the top 100 prospects in the nation that year. Alabama had 2. SC: 5 OSU: 0 MeatChicken: 4 Florida is one of the few who had more (10). Talk about doing less with more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDUB 0 Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 Hahaha "come to ND and enjoy a lucrative career in the shipping industry!" It is actually VERY lucrative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dangeruss 6 Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 very interesting to go back and look at all the players in the top 20 that ND went after hard, most of them never had an nfl career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddieAngel 603 Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 Having had a bit of time to reflect on this it is actually a very somber article and it is just an example, 2007 probably isn't statistically that far off of most average years. I think the NCAA and NFL should allow kids to apply for the draft in their sophomore year, or when they are 19 or whatever the NBA regulation is. If football is their passion then give them a shot at it and let them figure it out. Instead the NCAA drains the useful life out of half of these kids and they never get a shot. I am sure everyone has mixed feelings about this, but the truth is if these guys are going to go out there and risk their futures let them choose where to do it. I love college football, it is probably my only real "hobby" that isn't work or family related. But looking at this, I would rather let the top 100 or 200 recruits go ahead and head straight for the NFL or after a year and watch the bottom portion of kids play in return for a college education. That 4 years for 40 looks like hot garbage when you look at that list. Fleet manager for 70K? Sales person in shipping? What the actual f**k? How many former ND football players are living the good life off of their college education? I honestly don't know. To quote Hunter Thompson: "No sympathy for the devil, buy the ticket, take the ride." I say if these kids are actually NFL bound let them go and let college football be for kids who need a college education and a fully functioning brain going forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VCDomer 75 Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 Nice post Eddie. Thoughtful but unrealistic IMHO. I believe there will be other changes that will come first before something this revolutionary. Player trusts and payments probably more realistic first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddieAngel 603 Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 Nice post Eddie. Thoughtful but unrealistic IMHO. I believe there will be other changes that will come first before something this revolutionary. Player trusts and payments probably more realistic first. I like the idea of paying players and looking out for their best interests better than throwing them to the NFL sharks, there is just so much bristling when you talk about the NCAA paying college players. I have no problem with the NCAA being the minor league NFL. It just may create a bigger disparity between the haves and the have-nots. On the other hand it will likely separate the guys who ain't there to play no school from those who are. Either way, I really think that something needs to change in the NCAA, even the fans are tired of seeing these guys get knocked around so bad that they flip out and kill themselves five - ten years down the road. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ELDER06 248 Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 It is actually VERY lucrative. Yeah, that was a stupid thing to say. I agree in part, it's not a great look that none of those guys ever materialized in the NFL and Clausen was really the only one who did anything in college. However, 75-80% of the names on that list are out of football. It's further proof what a ND degree can provide as a safety net. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddieAngel 603 Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 I hesitate to comment on this article because any time the term minority comes up, it tends to stir the hornet's nest around here. https://www.aol.com/article/sports/2017/02/03/most-americans-would-allow-their-kids-to-play-football-reuters/21706794/ Nevertheless, without saying that I have any of sort of interest in the statistics reported in this article, it does present an interesting fact that more educated parents are less likely to let their son play football. I will not comment on the article itself beyond that aside from to say that it did provide some parity when you talk about the fact that these guys are not in the NFL. That said, I think that there is some real credence to the idea that college football does provide a positive pathway for at risk persons who might not otherwise have an opportunity to go to college at all, in which case a career in sales, fleet management, or even assistant-management at Walmart might be a the proverbial brass ring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pregame 291 Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 I hesitate to comment on this article because any time the term minority comes up, it tends to stir the hornet's nest around here. https://www.aol.com/article/sports/2017/02/03/most-americans-would-allow-their-kids-to-play-football-reuters/21706794/ Nevertheless, without saying that I have any of sort of interest in the statistics reported in this article, it does present an interesting fact that more educated parents are less likely to let their son play football. I will not comment on the article itself beyond that aside from to say that it did provide some parity when you talk about the fact that these guys are not in the NFL. That said, I think that there is some real credence to the idea that college football does provide a positive pathway for at risk persons who might not otherwise have an opportunity to go to college at all, in which case a career in sales, fleet management, or even assistant-management at Walmart might be a the proverbial brass ring. I could see football turning into a more popular version of boxing. Blue collar/lower income participants who use the sport to elevate their status. I don't have a deep rooted connection to football as I only played 1 year so I know I'd never push my future children into the sport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverirish34 11 Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 I remember that class so well I remember 75 out of those 100 names.i was so into recruiting back then. I can barely name nd's current commits right now,lol. That class was loaded, and if you look we finished second to prob another 13 or 15 guys on that list pretty crazy how fast time flys. Thanks for posting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PJacksonsDred15 121 Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 I remember that class so well I remember 75 out of those 100 names.i was so into recruiting back then. I can barely name nd's current commits right now,lol. That class was loaded, and if you look we finished second to prob another 13 or 15 guys on that list pretty crazy how fast time flys. Thanks for posting. Finished 2nd that year. According to BK at his press conference, we will never be able to have a top 5 class. He said we should expect 5 to 15 range. I call bullshit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
echo88 74 Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 Yeah, that was a stupid thing to say. I agree in part, it's not a great look that none of those guys ever materialized in the NFL and Clausen was really the only one who did anything in college. However, 75-80% of the names on that list are out of football. It's further proof what a ND degree can provide as a safety net. Hey Skippy. I was referring to the fact that more than one of our guys ended up in the shipping industry. Wasn't a dig at the career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ELDER06 248 Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 (edited) Finished 2nd that year. According to BK at his press conference' date=' we will never be able to have a top 5 class. He said we should expect 5 to 15 range. I call bullshit[/quote'] This year's class was disappointing, even for a 4-8 season, and they still finished higher than 15th. There's no excuse for Notre Dame to ever be that low. IMO, over a 5 year period ND's avg rank should be in the 8-10 range. I know it's popular to hate on ND for everything they do, but ND does have a lot to offer. Edited February 4, 2017 by ELDER06 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domer Dude 0 Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 What better way to tell a kid he better be thinking about the next 40 years. Never remember Duval going that high. Not like he lit it up at ND. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ELDER06 248 Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 What better way to tell a kid he better be thinking about the next 40 years. Never remember Duval going that high. Not like he lit it up at ND. That's where I get both sides. You want your players to go to the NFL, and let's be honest, that's every recruit's goal. At the same time, they need to know the odds are long and they need to have a plan B. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ny 0 Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 Finished 2nd that year. According to BK at his press conference' date=' we will never be able to have a top 5 class. He said we should expect 5 to 15 range. I call bullshit[/quote'] I want to say he meant fit. You can have top five at ND, but they may not be the right fit see Aaron lynch. I maybe wrong, but I think that the last couple of years have showed him that these kids are head aches, but these are the head aches that you need to win. So there has to be a balance. But hey it may all be a moot point this time next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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