SpeedsterX 751 Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 Canadians, what's the truth? Is it everything you hope it could be or do you wish you had something else? (I know we had a thread years ago about this but can't find it). With Obamacare being reeled back just wondering what the real deal is with National Healthcare. Here's a video and it doesn't sound to great. Took the wife to the ER for a neck pain the other day and we were in and out after blood work, Dr checkup, x-rays and leaving with prescription in hand in about 2 hours. [ame] [/ame] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim2Dokes 3 Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 (edited) The fact that you were in and out in 2 hrs is probably due to the specific hospital and area you live in. The fact you did not have at least a $3000 dollar bill is due to your insurance. Even with ironclad insurance some hospitals overcharge for 10s of thousands and can get away with it. Of course these hospitals are also not Medicare credentialed which would mean in Canada that is not allowed. Hospitals that are not cred with the govt in us can charge whatever they please, the insurance won't cover you they expect you to.Most do not have your experience but I can not give an accurate picture of Canada's healthcare, maybe Rocket can weigh in. Edited January 22, 2017 by Jim2Dokes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocketsan 868 Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 we have Emergency rooms, you'll wait forever there... but be taken care of... we also have something called Urgent Care which offers pretty much all the same services, you'll wait a couple hours but get everything you need in one stop. I'll look at that video when I'm home tomorrow. I've had some pretty serious issues with kidney stones resulting in several surgeries. We don't pay a dime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PJacksonsDred15 121 Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 Offering the public a public option insurance plan would likely drive insurance and health care costs down without having to nationalize the entire industry. Best of both worlds if you ask me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coltssb 1,121 Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 Isn't the main problem for Canadians is the wait they have to endure for surgery hats needed? At least that's what I've been told from Canadians that have come to our facility wanting back surgery. As for the ER, it's usually a 5 hour wait I thought. Seems pretty normal unless you claim of chest pain or something more life threatening. Hell, I even had to wait 5 hours at the hospital I worked at for five hours till I ended up leaving. Then still got some minor bills for xray and such. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedsterX 751 Posted January 22, 2017 Author Share Posted January 22, 2017 Offering the public a public option insurance plan would likely drive insurance and health care costs down without having to nationalize the entire industry. Best of both worlds if you ask me. Don't we already have this with medicare/medicaid? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PJacksonsDred15 121 Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 Don't we already have this with medicare/medicaid? No. Medicaid draws from taxpayer funds and is only available to the poorest of the poor. Public option would only draw funds from those that decide to pay in and would be available to anyone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ObieKnobbe 47 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 Why not just let free market rule health insurance? I think if they let health insurance companies go national there will be much more competition in the marketplace similar to car insurance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim2Dokes 3 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 Why not just let free market rule health insurance? I think if they let health insurance companies go national there will be much more competition in the marketplace similar to car insurance. Health insurers are already national. There some of the biggest companies in the us. However they are only a small percentage of the problem, as this has been highlighted in other threads hospitals and drug companies are charging obscene amount seeing if the insurance company will flinch. It's a game, it goes back and forth. Leaving you with a giant bill. Until there are serious regulations, it will never get better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly Gruene 26 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 Health insurers are already national. There some of the biggest companies in the us. However they are only a small percentage of the problem, as this has been highlighted in other threads hospitals and drug companies are charging obscene amount seeing if the insurance company will flinch. It's a game, it goes back and forth. Leaving you with a giant bill. Until there are serious regulations, it will never get better. Most health insurance companies (not all) are present in most states (not all). Each state has its own regulatory agency for insurance. Each state imposes certain rules on how insurance companies do business in that particular state, often including, to a degree, what rates the insurance companies may charge. When a health insurance company seeks rate increases in a state for instance, it has to have those approved through the state insurance regulatory agency. States may regulate what must be included in health insurance coverage for an insurer to do business in that state. The pharmaceutical industry is one of the very largest drivers of insurance costs in this country. It's sad that we can buy drugs from Canada at a fraction of the cost of what the drugs cost here in the US. The Canadian health system receives high marks from Canadian citizens. There are certainly drawbacks, however. For instance, if you have prostate cancer and are over 70, you won't be able to receive aggressive surgical therapy. It isn't cost-effective. In the US you can receive aggressive surgical therapy. If a province in Canada budgets X dollars for orthopedic surgical services for a calendar year, if those dollars are used up by September, then good luck getting that hip replacement in October (happened in British Columbia a few years ago; they ran out of orthopedic dollars so shut down orthopedic services until January of the following year). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbrown_9999 1,125 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 Isn't the main problem for Canadians is the wait they have to endure for surgery hats needed? At least that's what I've been told from Canadians that have come to our facility wanting back surgery. As for the ER, it's usually a 5 hour wait I thought. Seems pretty normal unless you claim of chest pain or something more life threatening. Hell, I even had to wait 5 hours at the hospital I worked at for five hours till I ended up leaving. Then still got some minor bills for xray and such. Here is the answer to Canada's surgery hats issue https://smile.amazon.com/WonderWink-Mens-Wonderwork-Unisex-Scrub/dp/B01BV0JX5A/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1485187387&sr=8-1&keywords=surgery+cap No more than a two day wait due to Prime shipping... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coltssb 1,121 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 Here is the answer to Canada's surgery hats issue https://smile.amazon.com/WonderWink-Mens-Wonderwork-Unisex-Scrub/dp/B01BV0JX5A/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1485187387&sr=8-1&keywords=surgery+cap No more than a two day wait due to Prime shipping... Haha. Sorry for the typo. Always work when on and on my iPhone. For some reason my"t" always gets left out. You might see that on future and past posts. But nice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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