Another Ad for the SBT

[Donjuan 16]

[IrishGuy 199]

 

I'd buy the shirt...

[cali_domer 298]

[Soko 135]

'Death' is a bit much for a topic after the Declan Sullivan tragedy.

 

I would have highlighted his record against ranked teams though - that is the eye ball popping stat that hammers home how poor a job he has really done.

[KellyisNasty 0]

The one thing I wonder about if this campaign succeeds. Who would be the coach? Miles, Kiffin Fleck Gruden? 2 of those 4 are not really ideal.

 

I worry who they would pick lol. Nice problem to have I suppose.

[TexasDomer 1,486]

Who wants to be coach for a fanbase that does this?

[KellyisNasty 0]

Who wants to be coach for a fanbase that does this?

 

Fleck experienced his own fanbase calling for his head and guess what he did? He beared down and worked harder.

 

Coaches are ego driven by nature and think they will succeed. I dont want any coach that is scared by a passionate fanbase and a national spotlight because they will fail at ND.

[JTennant 290]

 

From my perspective, the fact they are blaming Kelly for our irrelevance is short-sighted at best..

 

This ad should have went up after we fired Bob Davie.

 

I have a shirt idea. Notre Dame football 20th anniversary of being absolutely irrelevant in college football.

 

We have a systemic problem not necesarily a Brian Kelly problem.

[Domer Dude 0]

Michigan State has a problem, Oregon has a problem, Houston we have a problem...blah blah...

 

Put out an ad letting the players know regardless of the outcome the fans have their back and not this bull$hit...

 

It all about attitude....

[JTennant 290]

MSU has won something recently.. Their expectations are on par with their performance. They are not going to be a perrenial top 5 or top 10 program.

 

Oregon has had a problem for 1 year in the past 12 and they've dealt with it accordingly..

 

Houston isn't even a power 5 can't really compare..

 

We are frustrated that the BOT has seemingly taken a blind eye to our insignificance and that is cause for an uproar.

[Gonkers 9]

MSU has won something recently.. Their expectations are on par with their performance. They are not going to be a perrenial top 5 or top 10 program.

 

Oregon has had a problem for 1 year in the past 12 and they've dealt with it accordingly..

 

Houston isn't even a power 5 can't really compare..

 

We are frustrated that the BOT has seemingly taken a blind eye to our insignificance and that is cause for an uproar.

 

You guys don't understand. Move on to another school/team... Notre Dame will never be a football factory. The BoT decided that when they hired Rosenthal (I think that was his name) and started ****ing with Lou they didn't want ND to be a football factory.

 

Even now they put it out there for all to see. There are many lines ND will not cross.

https://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf-dr-saturday/notre-dame-would-stop-playing-major-football-if-schools-paid-players-192017103.html

[Donjuan 16]

You guys don't understand. Move on to another school/team... Notre Dame will never be a football factory. The BoT decided that when they hired Rosenthal (I think that was his name) and started ****ing with Lou they didn't want ND to be a football factory.

 

Even now they put it out there for all to see. There are many lines ND will not cross.

https://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf-dr-saturday/notre-dame-would-stop-playing-major-football-if-schools-paid-players-192017103.html

 

Hiring a new coach/AD will not cross any perceived lines. Especially after these lines were already crossed with the current regime. Cheating, probation, win forfeiture, conduct unbecoming...etc. Lines? lol. What lines?

[AtLeastMySisWasIrish 0]

Same fan base that ran off Lou Holtz, then puts up a statue in his honor. His successor? One contract. His successor? One contract. His successor? One extension but prior to his first contract coming to term. For Sale signs placed in his yard and family ridiculed by fans. His successor? Ads being run calling for his and his bosses head. With the demands the Ad is placing on the administration, what if you get what you are asking for? Then what?

Anyone is free to do what they want with their money but a precedent has been set and for those comparing ND's fan base to what Fleck experienced at Western Michigan has no clue about what the hell they're talking about. There is no comparison and no guarantee he or anyone else would be successful under the current set of circumstances. I've been a fan since 1970 and have seen the best and worst of times and would love to see ND return to prominence on a consistent basis but with what you've accomplished with the ad is nothing more than creating attention to a fan base going to extremes to voice their displeasure. We are now no different than any other football school...

[Gonkers 9]

Hiring a new coach/AD will not cross any perceived lines. Especially after these lines were already crossed with the current regime. Cheating, probation, win forfeiture, conduct unbecoming...etc. Lines? lol. What lines?

 

Cheating Not sure how that's Kelly's fault.

 

probation & win forfeiture This is from an overzealous NCAA that ruled "institutional" cheating because the student facilitating the cheating worked in the athletic training department as a student trainer. Still has nothing to do with Kelly.

 

conduct unbecoming If you are referring to the "car full of stupid", well those are the RKGs. This one is on Kelly. He didn't teach them to not speed with a gun and marijuana in the car.

 

No, not that stuff, duh.

 

I'm talking about doing what it takes to win and be elite.

• Optional classes
  
• Real "institutional" cheating
  
• Junior College transfers
  
• "donations" to players and their family businesses
  
• The list goes on...
  

[KellyisNasty 0]

I hear Rex Ryan is getting fired possibly Monday. C'mon Bills, you know you want Kelly!

[Donjuan 16]

No matter how you want to paint it the head ball coach is ultimately responsible for what happens with his football team. Some of you astound me with your excuses. A real coach can win with the players we have. That's the point.

[Gonkers 9]

No matter how you want to paint it the head ball coach is ultimately responsible for what happens with his football team. Some of you astound me with your excuses. A real coach can win with the players we have. That's the point.

 

Then riddle me this batman... How come ND hasn't had a "real coach" in 20+ years? Is Notre Dame that incompetent of an institution?

[Donjuan 16]

ND has fallen victim to hiring bad coaches/coaches who didn't fit like many other schools have done. USC was awful for a 25 year stretch but all it took was one hire to change it all around. New training table, fake grass, practice facility, more leeway for HS academics, early enrollees...etc. ND has been making it easier. You just need to pay attention. Let's compare Stanford with ND, shall we?

[Gonkers 9]

ND has fallen victim to hiring bad coaches/coaches who didn't fit like many other schools have done. USC was awful for a 25 year stretch but all it took was one hire to change it all around. New training table, fake grass, practice facility, more leeway for HS academics, early enrollees...etc. ND has been making it easier. You just need to pay attention. Let's compare Stanford with ND, shall we?

 

The same coach and athletic department responsible for this... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Southern_California_athletics_scandal

 

The ND BoT will never let that happen. ND will never be a football factory. It's been made very very clear by them.

[Donjuan 16]

ND is going to have to forfeit an entire year's worth of games so we're closer to the 'factory' label than you think. ND can hire a coach who turns this around. Kelly showed it's possible in 2012. Now we need a coach to take us over the hill.

[Gonkers 9]

ND is going to have to forfeit an entire year's worth of games so we're closer to the 'factory' label than you think. ND can hire a coach who turns this around. Kelly showed it's possible in 2012. Now we need a coach to take us over the hill.

 

Hey I'm not saying Kelly is the guy. I've said it before I don't care if he gets fired or not. I agree with you that Kelly showed it may be possible to win at ND (I still doubt it though). Who was the last coach to show us that? ... ... Bueller? Bueller? Yeah, it was Lou firggen Holtz. Whether you want to admit it or not, Kelly had the program moving in the right direction. I just don't want another Daviehamwies for the next 20+ years. I was willing to give Kelly another year, but the insatiable fan base ruined that. Kelly and ND are now tainted. Everyone here just gave every other coach the ammo it needs to show that ND isn't the right school for [insert recruit here].

[goirish83 0]

Hey I'm not saying Kelly is the guy. I've said it before I don't care if he gets fired or not. I agree with you that Kelly showed it may be possible to win at ND (I still doubt it though). Who was the last coach to show us that? ... ... Bueller? Bueller? Yeah, it was Lou firggen Holtz. Whether you want to admit it or not, Kelly had the program moving in the right direction. I just don't want another Daviehamwies for the next 20+ years. I was willing to give Kelly another year, but the insatiable fan base ruined that. Kelly and ND are now tainted. Everyone here just gave every other coach the ammo it needs to show that ND isn't the right school for [insert recruit here].

 

There's a happy medium between being a football factory and accepting mediocrity, it's not just 1 or the other. And there are plenty of reasons for other coaches to recruit against nd, a group of fans printing a newspaper add is hardly going to be the smoking gun that flips recruits.

[ELDER06 248]

No matter how you want to paint it the head ball coach is ultimately responsible for what happens with his football team. Some of you astound me with your excuses. A real coach can win with the players we have. That's the point.

 

True. Ultimately, it all points up to the coach. However, there's some things you can't blame on Kelly.

[JTennant 290]

You guys don't understand. Move on to another school/team... Notre Dame will never be a football factory. The BoT decided that when they hired Rosenthal (I think that was his name) and started ****ing with Lou they didn't want ND to be a football factory.

 

Even now they put it out there for all to see. There are many lines ND will not cross.

https://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf-dr-saturday/notre-dame-would-stop-playing-major-football-if-schools-paid-players-192017103.html

 

I completely understand. I am holding out hope that because of the stadium renovations and other changes made around the program are a sign that the BOT is willing to change and might be interested in returning football to a perennial power...

 

If they aren't I will probably end up finding a new team to root for, but I am not yet ready to give up. It's already alarming when I go to games and I see the kids in the student section and I can't help but ponder the different social networks these kids grew up in compared to myself who grew up lower middle class in a suburb of Indianapolis. It's somewhat off-putting and it makes me question why my dad would be interested in rooting for such an elitist type of school, but it goes back to being Catholic.. and had nothing to do with our economic status.

[jimbo 405]

No matter how you want to paint it the head ball coach is ultimately responsible for what happens with his football team. Some of you astound me with your excuses. A real coach can win with the players we have. That's the point.

 

Agree with DJ 100% on this.