Kizer = Quinn

[SDIrishFan 607]

All this talk about sure fire first rounder, I just fail to see it.

 

Kizer reminds me a lot of Quinn.

 

Great size but Doesn't have an elite arm.

 

Doesn't have elite accuracy.

 

Excelled with good receivers, struggles without them.

 

Misses a lot of easy throws.

 

Certainly more mobile.

 

Long stretches of games where he just plays bad.

 

Now the kid has carried the team at times this year but that has more to do with it being a bad team than him being dominant.

 

And it being a major down year for college qbs does not a good pro make.

 

Hope he proves me wrong...

[Jim2Dokes 3]

As much as people talk negatively about the o line, I see no other college QB with as much time to go through progressions. You have to get the ball out within 2-4 seconds in the NFL. Wonder if there is a stat out there of the average time it takes for Kizer to make a throw, maybe I'm wrong idk

Edited November 20, 2016 by Jim2Dokes

[vangordersmustache 63]

All this talk about sure fire first rounder, I just fail to see it.

 

Kizer reminds me a lot of Quinn.

 

Great size but Doesn't have an elite arm.

 

Doesn't have elite accuracy.

 

Excelled with good receivers, struggles without them.

 

Misses a lot of easy throws.

 

Certainly more mobile.

 

Long stretches of games where he just plays bad.

 

Now the kid has carried the team at times this year but that has more to do with it being a bad team than him being dominant.

 

And it being a major down year for college qbs does not a good pro make.

 

Hope he proves me wrong...

 

 

Disagree on arm strength, he makes some of those long out routes look easy, and he can throw deep when his footwork is right. He needs a lot of work, but he has the arm strength for sure.

[SDIrishFan 607]

Disagree on arm strength, he makes some of those long out routes look easy, and he can throw deep when his footwork is right. He needs a lot of work, but he has the arm strength for sure.

 

My guess, he's third on the team from an arm strength perspective

[WeaverIrish 28]

My guess, he's third on the team from an arm strength perspective

 

what are you watching

[seanscarborough 6]

My guess, he's third on the team from an arm strength perspective

 

I watched all three qb's warm up before texas, I'm not sure who has the strongest arm. No one seemed to be the clear front-runner. They all have cannons.

[KellyisNasty 0]

All this talk about sure fire first rounder, I just fail to see it.

 

Kizer reminds me a lot of Quinn.

 

Great size but Doesn't have an elite arm.

 

Doesn't have elite accuracy.

 

Excelled with good receivers, struggles without them.

 

Misses a lot of easy throws.

 

Certainly more mobile.

 

Long stretches of games where he just plays bad.

 

Now the kid has carried the team at times this year but that has more to do with it being a bad team than him being dominant.

 

And it being a major down year for college qbs does not a good pro make.

 

Hope he proves me wrong...

 

I don't remember the line that I stopped reading, but it was early.

[SDIrishFan 607]

I don't remember the line that I stopped reading, but it was early.

 

Enlighten me where I'm wrong?

 

I'll wait...

[SDIrishFan 607]

what are you watching

 

Every game and a lot of practices for the past 15 years or so...

[SpecialFNK 0]

I don't think he is ready for the NFL, but then again I don't watch the NFL to see what other NFL QB are like. right now I think Kizer makes too many mistakes and it would benefit him to come back another year.

[JTennant 290]

I'm baffled on why Quinn never panned out. I still stand by the idea if he was drafted by anyone else and given the Aaron Rodgers treatment or even played on a team worth a damn he would have been a career serviceable QB.

 

He was big, athletic, and seemed to have good leadership abilities.

 

I don't even know what to think about Kizer. His first year he looked like a baller with unlimited upside. Sure he missed some throws, but never seemed fazed and has all the physical tools. His best option is to head to the NFL even if it means getting drafted in the 5th or 6th round where he can actually get coached by someone who knows something about QBs.

[vangordersmustache 63]

Kizer has a cannon. I have seen every game since about 97. I watch college football all day, and NFL on Sunday. I coached high school for 8 years. You can tell arm strength by how effortless the come back routes are, and deep outs. They don't float , and he doesn't have to use everything he has either . So I disagree about his arm strength. I feel 90% of his accuracy is footwork problems, most he is rushing his footwork and sailing the ball, or grounding it by being off balance. These are correctable with coaching.

 

One thing I Have noticed is deep balls are coming out flat. I'd have to really look at his release closely, but could be arm angle , just bad release with wrists and timing. The footwork looks good on the deep ball, but the ball doesn't come out right, not like it did last year.

[Frankus 212]

Kizer is bigger and stronger with a bigger arm than Quinn. That being said, guessing who's gonna make it in the NFL and who's not is a big crap shoot. Who could have predicted Tom Brady? Not many. I think he'll get drafted in the 1st round due to his size, speed and arm strength.

[EddieAngel 615]

I'm baffled on why Quinn never panned out. I still stand by the idea if he was drafted by anyone else and given the Aaron Rodgers treatment or even played on a team worth a damn he would have been a career serviceable QB.

 

He was big, athletic, and seemed to have good leadership abilities.

 

I don't even know what to think about Kizer. His first year he looked like a baller with unlimited upside. Sure he missed some throws, but never seemed fazed and has all the physical tools. His best option is to head to the NFL even if it means getting drafted in the 5th or 6th round where he can actually get coached by someone who knows something about QBs.

 

I agree. Just bad luck getting drafted to Cleveland. Hard to say what could have happened had Miami picked him at 9 instead of Ginn.

[EddieAngel 615]

Kizer is bigger and stronger with a bigger arm than Quinn. That being said, guessing who's gonna make it in the NFL and who's not is a big crap shoot. Who could have predicted Tom Brady? Not many. I think he'll get drafted in the 1st round due to his size, speed and arm strength.

 

I don't think he was stronger than Quinn. Brady was huge. Some people said his massive upper body impeded his throwing motion.

 

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/295042-brady-quinn-is-too-muscular-to-play-qb-in-the-nfl

[ndomer4 532]

I agree. Just bad luck getting drafted to Cleveland. Hard to say what could have happened had Miami picked him at 9 instead of Ginn.

 

I am baffled too but he had a good opportunity in KC and really **** the bed there. He bounced around with so many teams, I watched almost every game I could and he was so inaccurate. I think Carlson, Stovall, Fasano and Samardzija bailed him out more than a few times. Atleast he'll always have that game against the Lions lol.

 

I thought it was a bad pick at the time but Ginn has had a much better career than Quinn, Ginn turned out alright.

[gipper2nd 0]

gotta disagree on the comment " Ginn turned out alright". The dude has "hands of stone". He is one of the worst receivers in the NFL. Look at how many times he has been traded. I think him & the "Scamster" have a love thing going, & that is why he is still with Carolina.