Franco 0 Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 http://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/watch-urban-meyers-priceless-reaction-after-learning-ex-players-can-join-practice/ Seems genuine...and hilarious Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ckp160 10 Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 Now THAT'S funny!! He looked stunned! HA! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
echo88 74 Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 Of course our nerd coach, instead of finding ways to take advantage of this, is whining about teams who are light years better doing it.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Handsome Jack 0 Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 Of course our nerd coach, instead of finding ways to take advantage of this, is whining about teams who are light years better doing it.... Brian Kelly is not the reason that the cfb elite is light years ahead of Notre Dame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ELDER06 248 Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 Of course our nerd coach, instead of finding ways to take advantage of this, is whining about teams who are light years better doing it.... Nerds are smart. Let's be honest, it's a clever idea, but its impact is pretty minimal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ELDER06 248 Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 Brian Kelly is not the reason that the cfb elite is light years ahead of Notre Dame. I think he's part of it, but hardly the biggest driving force. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davislove 0 Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 Nerds are smart. Let's be honest, it's a clever idea, but its impact is pretty minimal. What it shows is how the good coaches will do the little things to gain an edge. A bunch of little things adds up. The problem with ND is the last 2 coaches they hired were arrogant as hell. Both would dismiss any suggestions because of course no one is smarter then them. I watch Harbaugh do satellite camps while it was too much of a bother for Kelly. I'd pass on a name coach for one with passion and fire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goirish83 0 Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 Brian Kelly is not the reason that the cfb elite is light years ahead of Notre Dame. Wow we get it man tbe bot wants nothing to do with notre dame being good at football. Every single post you bring this up and it's fine if you believe it but bringing it up on every single thread isn't going to change it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Handsome Jack 0 Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 Wow we get it man tbe bot wants nothing to do with notre dame being good at football. Every single post you bring this up and it's fine if you believe it but bringing it up on every single thread isn't going to change it. I didn't say anything about the BOT. I defended Kelly to a degree. He certainly isn't the best coach out there but he is probably the best coach who would come here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ELDER06 248 Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 What it shows is how the good coaches will do the little things to gain an edge. A bunch of little things adds up. The problem with ND is the last 2 coaches they hired were arrogant as hell. Both would dismiss any suggestions because of course no one is smarter then them. I watch Harbaugh do satellite camps while it was too much of a bother for Kelly. I'd pass on a name coach for one with passion and fire. What are the other little things? I'm willing to bet a lot of the Bama backups are better than the current version of Trent Richardson or JP Wilson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davislove 0 Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 What are the other little things? I'm willing to bet a lot of the Bama backups are better than the current version of Trent Richardson or JP Wilson. Having your defense or offense play against experienced players is always an advantage. They will play with a passion that a 3rd stringer on walk won't. Say it's true that bamas back ups are better. Is that the case for at Notre Dame? Playing against a farley, russell, or brown could really help out. Especially in seasons where we were destroyed by injuries. Take advantage of all opportunities. Do we have as much of an "administrative staff" as other top programs? I notice how other schools use their spring games as practice. The coach is on the field and stopping and starting things. That's using everything you have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
echo88 74 Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 Brian Kelly is not the reason that the cfb elite is light years ahead of Notre Dame. It's pretty simple. If Urban and Nick believe this gives their team an advantage, in any way, then it does. He may not be the sole reason, but for the last 7 years he sure as hell has contributed to it mightily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Handsome Jack 0 Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 It's pretty simple. If Urban and Nick believe this gives their team an advantage, in any way, then it does. He may not be the sole reason, but for the last 7 years he sure as hell has contributed to it mightily. Kelly has taken ND from the dark ages all the way to the industrial age. Unfortunatel though, cfb is in the space age and not looking back. When Kelly can operate his football program like every other coach in the country (including Stanford) and struggles, then I would reconsider my thoughts on him. He's a good coach. Not great but no great coach is going to come here and put up with all the bs that he would have to put up with. Kelly did make a ghastly error with BVG, no question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davislove 0 Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 Kelly has taken ND from the dark ages all the way to the industrial age. Unfortunatel though, cfb is in the space age and not looking back. When Kelly can operate his football program like every other coach in the country (including Stanford) and struggles, then I would reconsider my thoughts on him. He's a good coach. Not great but no great coach is going to come here and put up with all the bs that he would have to put up with. Kelly did make a ghastly error with BVG, no question. That's weak. What can other schools do that he can't? If coaching at nd was such a burden then how come the other sports such as womes basketball and lacrosse do so well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dardo 19 Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 Kelly has taken ND from the dark ages all the way to the industrial age. Unfortunatel though, cfb is in the space age and not looking back. When Kelly can operate his football program like every other coach in the country (including Stanford) and struggles, then I would reconsider my thoughts on him. He's a good coach. Not great but no great coach is going to come here and put up with all the bs that he would have to put up with. Kelly did make a ghastly error with BVG, no question. That's weak. What can other schools do that he can't? If coaching at nd was such a burden then how come the other sports such as womes basketball and lacrosse do so well? I'm with Davis 100% here. You love talking about how tough Kelly has it and how tough the admin makes it, but have literally 0 facts to back it up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franco 0 Posted November 18, 2016 Author Share Posted November 18, 2016 That's weak. What can other schools do that he can't? If coaching at nd was such a burden then how come the other sports such as womes basketball and lacrosse do so well? Women's basketball and lacrosse compared to college football? That's a false equivalency.... Higher revenues for Football means different sets of expectations (this has effects ranging from more coaching stability of other sports, to just the pressure itself) Recruiting...The elite players for football would rather go to a school that doesn't force them to study. In contrast, you can argue that the elite players for women's basketball and Lacrosse don't quite have that same hangup. This is due to a lack of a HUGE professional league like the NFL, so the elite kids in women's basketball and lacrosse aren't just in it to make it to the professional level nearly as much as football There are so many more reasons, and branching issues from the reasons I named above Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Handsome Jack 0 Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 (edited) Women's basketball and lacrosse compared to college football? That's a false equivalency.... Higher revenues for Football means different sets of expectations (this has effects ranging from more coaching stability of other sports, to just the pressure itself) Recruiting...The elite players for football would rather go to a school that doesn't force them to study. In contrast, you can argue that the elite players for women's basketball and Lacrosse don't quite have that same hangup. This is due to a lack of a HUGE professional league like the NFL, so the elite kids in women's basketball and lacrosse aren't just in it to make it to the professional level nearly as much as football There are so many more reasons, and branching issues from the reasons I named above Exactly. There are at least a dozen reasons and most of them have been discussed ad nauseum on every ND message board. I honestly can't believe that Davis and Dardo would actually ask these questions in a serious manner. Edited November 18, 2016 by Handsome Jack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goirish83 0 Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 Kelly has taken ND from the dark ages all the way to the industrial age. Unfortunatel though, cfb is in the space age and not looking back. When Kelly can operate his football program like every other coach in the country (including Stanford) and struggles, then I would reconsider my thoughts on him. He's a good coach. Not great but no great coach is going to come here and put up with all the bs that he would have to put up with. Kelly did make a ghastly error with BVG, no question. That is such a defeatist attitide. Kelly brings in top 15 recruiting classes on a yearly basis so he has more talent to work with then 90% of coaches. The money poured into the gug makes most facilities look like a middle school gym. So many coaches would die for the opportunity that kelly has. If you keep kelly you are saying 2 double digit win seasons in 7 years is good enough and you are saying 7/8 wins per seasons is good enough. They fired Weis so it wasn't good enough then I doubt it's good enough now. And to say let's not fire kelly because the next guy might be worse is the definition of accepting mediocrity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Handsome Jack 0 Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 (edited) That is such a defeatist attitide. Kelly brings in top 15 recruiting classes on a yearly basis so he has more talent to work with then 90% of coaches. The money poured into the gug makes most facilities look like a middle school gym. So many coaches would die for the opportunity that kelly has. If you keep kelly you are saying 2 double digit win seasons in 7 years is good enough and you are saying 7/8 wins per seasons is good enough. They fired Weis so it wasn't good enough then I doubt it's good enough now. And to say let's not fire kelly because the next guy might be worse is the definition of accepting mediocrity I'm not saying it's good enough. ND is saying it's good enough. Look, he's not going anywhere. He will be the coach next season. Should he be? Maybe and maybe not. You say no? Ok, fair enough. I'm ok with some new blood. But who are you going to get, who would be an upgrade, to replace a guy who has had two unbeaten seasons........that would actually come here? Meyer said no. Twice. Stoops said no. Saban isn't coming. Harbaugh isn't coming. Fisher isn't coming. Swinney isn't coming. Gruden isn't coming. Peterson isn't coming. Fitzgerald isnt coming. Petrino would not be considered. Neither would Tressell. Chryst is at his Alma Mater. ND is just not an attractive coaching destination with coaches who have national championship aspirations. There are reasons all of those coaches either said no or would not come here. Edited November 18, 2016 by Handsome Jack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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