jumpman5678 1 Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 Says ND is still his top school though......So it begins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goirish83 0 Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 I'm sure it won't be the last unfortunately, everyone knows kelly is a lame duck coach at this point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeaverIrish 28 Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 Just another reason for Kelly to be shown the door Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davislove 0 Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 I'm sure it won't be the last unfortunately, everyone knows kelly is a lame duck coach at this point You can write off that 2018 class. Man i like that jurkovec kid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddieAngel 615 Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 This is the kind of domino that causes the others to fall. A BK coffin nail for sure. Hopefully this shows the administration that they do not have time to delay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goirish83 0 Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 This is the kind of domino that causes the others to fall. A BK coffin nail for sure. Hopefully this shows the administration that they do not have time to delay. Exactly what I was thinking, the one thing this staff still had to hang their hat on was their recruiting but now even that is starting to fall. The administration needs to cut ties, yes they'll lose a lot of kids in what was going to be a great 17 class and what was the beginning of potentially an ever greater 18 class but it seems as though they're going to lose these kids anyway and maybe cutting ties now still gives them enough time to get some of them back. It seems like a better option then letting kelly flounder and leave these kids wondering what will happen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dangeruss 6 Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 not surprised to see this after a 2-5 start, I would expect to see more of this before singing day. ND is in desperate need of talented DL and this hurts. ND cant play well and now they cant get the big time DL recruits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndomer4 532 Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 First Beal now Jeter, unfortunately our two best dline commits. It's the main difference between us and a school like Bama is the depth, size, and talent of the dline. The only time we were good recently we had KLM, Tuitt and Nix. I was born in 93 so I wasn't around for the 'glory days' but I assume we had great dlinemen. Great teams stop the run and get after the qb often, things we are terrible at which is why we probably go 2-10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudskipper 0 Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 First Beal now Jeter, unfortunately our two best dline commits. It's the main difference between us and a school like Bama is the depth, size, and talent of the dline. The only time we were good recently we had KLM, Tuitt and Nix. I was born in 93 so I wasn't around for the 'glory days' but I assume we had great dlinemen. Great teams stop the run and get after the qb often, things we are terrible at which is why we probably go 2-10. I'm wishing Kelly would fall on his sword (resign) like Faust did, and save the university the turmoil and collateral damage from proceeding further on a downward spiral ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddieAngel 615 Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 I'm wishing Kelly would fall on his sword (resign) like Faust did, and save the university the turmoil and collateral damage from proceeding further on a downward spiral ! That is like an admission of guilt and will very possibly be more harmful to his future prospects than getting fired, as odd as that sounds. Even though there is a certain body of evidence suggesting he is a bull-headed blamestormer, he will likely find a soft landing place by explaining that no one could be successful at ND and it isn't his fault. If he quits the onus is kind of on him instead of the university. I know it seems odd, but there is an argument for the perspective. That aside, falling on the sword would mean the university would not be required to pay out the remainder of his contract. ND can afford to throw away 4.5M for the next three or four years, Kelly can't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly Gruene 26 Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 I'm wishing Kelly would fall on his sword (resign) like Faust did, and save the university the turmoil and collateral damage from proceeding further on a downward spiral ! He'll only fall on his sword when the University gives him one made of gold and worth about $20,000,000, the approximate value of the contract extension he signed in January. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddieAngel 615 Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 He'll only fall on his sword when the University gives him one made of gold and worth about $20,000,000, the approximate value of the contract extension he signed in January. I would be surprised if there wasn't some kind of language in the contract for arbitration and buyout in these kinds of circumstances. The University is going to be liable for some but if they learned absolutely nothing from the Charlie Weis experience I would be painfully surprised. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LasVegasIrish 0 Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 I guess we will see how it works out with him. A little surprised based on his tweets the last few weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NDNorm 50 Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 I would be surprised if there wasn't some kind of language in the contract for arbitration and buyout in these kinds of circumstances. The University is going to be liable for some but if they learned absolutely nothing from the Charlie Weis experience I would be painfully surprised. I'm sure an agent would fight something like that tooth and nail, but I think it's foolish to not have some kind of a way to sever things w/out full payout based on the current state of affairs, whatever they may be. And you're right, especially for them after the CW debacle, they should be adamant about getting a certain level of employer protection in there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cali_domer 298 Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 “I look and Michigan is undefeated and Notre Dame is 2-5." http://pittsburghsportsnow.com/2016/10/18/jeter-de-commits-notre-dame/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndomer4 532 Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 “I look and Michigan is undefeated and Notre Dame is 2-5." http://pittsburghsportsnow.com/2016/10/18/jeter-de-commits-notre-dame/ I've seen this movie before, IMO he is as good as gone. It seems from my memory atleast that once guys decommit from ND they rarely commit back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeaverIrish 28 Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 “I look and Michigan is undefeated and Notre Dame is 2-5." http://pittsburghsportsnow.com/2016/10/18/jeter-de-commits-notre-dame/ I think the bigger quote is when he mentions how he doesn't wanna for a school that goes 7-6, he wants to play in big bowl games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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