Posted February 20, 201510 yr I saw some fodder on this last week. this is the second article I have come across. IMO, this might gain steam. but wait and see mode now. http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/_/id/12349646/big-ten-considering-ineligibility-freshmen
February 20, 201510 yr I dont see the point. If the freshmen are ready to play and able to beat out an upperclassmen, why not let them. Hopefully this does not gain too much steam... at least for Notre Dame. It kind of nullifies the 5* your team just got in the recruiting class.
February 20, 201510 yr Read an article this morning with the Big 10 soliciting input from their schools which makes sense with them along with the ACC being recognized as the more "academic" conferences. I could see how the school Presidents like the concept however not getting much support within the athletic departments. Just ask the new President of Michigan how well his introduction went when he suggested the school was more than just its football team. Will be interesting to see if it gains traction but could lead to a further divide within the Power 5, in particular our favorite whipping boy, the evil SEC. One footnote is I didn't realize the rule was changed in 1972 in order to allow Marshall to field a team after the infamous plane crash.
February 20, 201510 yr This will pass right after they pass a rule saying that schools can pay athletes as much money as they want and offer family members and friends gifts and fake jobs.... There is NO WAY that the conference would approve this and eliminate themselves from the super elite recruits. 1 and done in football will come before 1 and none.
February 20, 201510 yr I dont see the point. If the freshmen are ready to play and able to beat out an upperclassmen, why not let them. Hopefully this does not gain too much steam... at least for Notre Dame. It kind of nullifies the 5* your team just got in the recruiting class. The point is, if the students are truly supposed to be "student-athletes", it would give them a year to acclimate to the "student" aspect before embarking on the "athlete" portion. A good idea, but only if every school is on level ground. It wasn't that long ago freshman were ineligible NCAA wide, maybe the 70's or so.
February 20, 201510 yr It wasn't that long ago freshman were ineligible NCAA wide, maybe the 70's or so. You must be old too....40+ years is a long A$$ time
February 20, 201510 yr This just cannot happen with just one conference instituting it and waiting for others to join in. It could ONLY happen if ALL the conferences got together and instituted it at the same time. Otherwise, it would kill the first conference to institute it.
February 20, 201510 yr You must be old too....40+ years is a long A$$ time Ok, well it was "long ago", but if we start saying the 70's is long ago, that makes nearly all of ND's titles ancient. I'm not ready to go there quite yet!
February 20, 201510 yr Ok, well it was "long ago", but if we start saying the 70's is long ago, that makes nearly all of ND's titles ancient. I'm not ready to go there quite yet! That is a very good point. You sir are a thinker!
February 20, 201510 yr Article I read stated the Pac-12, Big 12, Big 10 and ACC have all contacted each other and feel it is in the best interest of the students. Also, that each conference has had interconference discussions about this and seem to be in agreement that it would be beneficial.
February 20, 201510 yr Author many schools did away with the freshman teams because of the extra cost it took to pay for another squad to travel and play. this brings back ghe rule but also doesnt actually put them in their own freshman level playing field. you just dont play. this is a big deal for basketball though. it basically locks u into two years in college before going pro. will more big HS talents opt to play overseas for two years before the NbA instead?
February 20, 201510 yr When I was at ND, I was a freshman in the same class as Joe Theisman who lived down the hall from me in Breen-Phillips. Freshmen were ineligible to play on the varsity. He quarterbacked the freshmen team,which played a reduced schedule of 3 games versus some of the freshmen on our schedule like Pitt and Northwestern.The team had its own coach. They were also used as part oif the scout team for the varsity. Side note: As a sophomore, Theisman worked his way up to backing up Hanratty, a senior. And when Hanratty broke his leg during the season, Theisman took over and never looked back.
February 20, 201510 yr This will pass right after they pass a rule saying that schools can pay athletes as much money as they want and offer family members and friends gifts and fake jobs.... There is NO WAY that the conference would approve this and eliminate themselves from the super elite recruits. 1 and done in football will come before 1 and none.
February 20, 201510 yr This is a really stupid idea. Wish football players had an option to play for $$$ like their basketball counterparts.
February 20, 201510 yr I think the power 5 conferences should pass this rule and right away. And then ND and BYU stick up our middle fingers at them and say Freshman can play here day 1. Oh the hate would be at the highest level, ESPN would have a melt down all day every day and we as fans would have to go in hiding. But we would be filled with plenty of 5 star recruits and the rest would be 4 star. I guess that would be backwards of how it would really happen though, we would try to get the ball rolling first and end up with 20 3 star recruits and a couple 4 star guys. I wish we would play a trump card at the right time once in awhile.
February 21, 201510 yr There's a 0.0000000000000000% chance of this happening. You think the SEC is going to sign off when a lot of schools have several freshmen starting/contributing each year? Not a chance.
February 21, 201510 yr This is a really stupid idea. Wish football players had an option to play for $$$ like their basketball counterparts. Couldn't they go the CFL or Arena league if they wanted?
February 22, 201510 yr Couldn't they go the CFL or Arena league if they wanted? CFL I could see but I don't think arena would be very helpful for development. I'm no coaching expert but i can't imagine arena ball has a great coaching infrastructure.
February 22, 201510 yr I dont see the point. If the freshmen are ready to play and able to beat out an upperclassmen, why not let them. Hopefully this does not gain too much steam... at least for Notre Dame. It kind of nullifies the 5* your team just got in the recruiting class.Exactly. Totally opposed to this and definitely hope it doesn't go through. Talk about the conference losing out on "1 and done" prospects, ala a Kentucky Wildcat recent player. If they are in school and in good standing, they should be able to play.
February 22, 201510 yr I am more inclined to get rid of the 1 and done rule. Kentucky could easily cheat because the kids dont really need to do anything if they are there for only a year.
February 23, 201510 yr I am more inclined to get rid of the 1 and done rule. Kentucky could easily cheat because the kids dont really need to do anything if they are there for only a year.Other than winning national titles jk/lol. I wonder if they even go to class at all.
I saw some fodder on this last week.
this is the second article I have come across.
IMO, this might gain steam. but wait and see mode now.
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/_/id/12349646/big-ten-considering-ineligibility-freshmen