Posted February 7, 201510 yr To all of you who wanted coaching changes during the losing streak. We got some. In reality on the field the running backs and corners have been just ok. We had a quarterback coach but Brian Kelly is in there lots, Redundancy warning. Yes. Alford and Cooks are two beast recruiters. Next man up, Scott Booker. Sorry. Some of you guys want change but still resist when it happens Keep the Faith!!!
February 7, 201510 yr As Ricky Ricardo would say, "CBK, you got some 'splainin' to do". Recruits who just signed have seen a ton of their position coaches go away. Current team members have seen their coaches go away. I don't remember seeing such a massive coaching turnover in one program in one year when it didn't involve a new head coach being hired. Something's not right with the program. Money probably plays some part, but this just doesn't smell right. It'll all probably work out just fine, but there is an odor.
February 7, 201510 yr As Ricky Ricardo would say, "CBK, you got some 'splainin' to do". Recruits who just signed have seen a ton of their position coaches go away. Current team members have seen their coaches go away. I don't remember seeing such a massive coaching turnover in one program in one year when it didn't involve a new head coach being hired. Something's not right with the program. Money probably plays some part, but this just doesn't smell right. It'll all probably work out just fine, but there is an odor. Don't worry about something not smelling right. When opportunity knocks, one has to take advantage of it. LeFleur would not have left if not for the Falcons having a new staff and wanting him. Cooks got a bump up in title with more dough and another step on his resume toward being a head coach. Same with Alford. And he will be a head coach within a year to two after added as't coach at OSU to his resume. If any of his us had these opportunities presented to us, it would be hard to turn any of them down if we wanted to advance our careers and our bank account.
February 7, 201510 yr Author Agreed Jersey. Kelly has a track record of hiring good staffs. I'm reading on here, we've got Quinn and Todd Lyght. A decent shot at bringing Autry Denson back. So this will be fine. Quinn brings leadership. the other to bring energy a Ring in Lyghts case and rushing records in Densons case. I' m reserving judgment, but my feeling is we're fine. I"M SO GLAD THEY HELD ALFORD TILL POST SIGNING DAY..
February 7, 201510 yr As Ricky Ricardo would say, "CBK, you got some 'splainin' to do". Recruits who just signed have seen a ton of their position coaches go away. Current team members have seen their coaches go away. I don't remember seeing such a massive coaching turnover in one program in one year when it didn't involve a new head coach being hired. Something's not right with the program. Money probably plays some part, but this just doesn't smell right. It'll all probably work out just fine, but there is an odor. I believe that Holtz had quite a bit of turnover as well.
February 8, 201510 yr I believe that Holtz had quite a bit of turnover as well. That's right. If this board existed back then, with all the changes in staff Holtz had, many would have jumped off a cliff already. As Aaron Rodgers told the Green Bay faithful: "Just R-E-L-A-X"
February 8, 201510 yr Most of you are assuming that the coaches that are leaving, are leaving because they want to. Maybe these are the coaching changes that Kelly was referring to.
February 8, 201510 yr I believe that Holtz had quite a bit of turnover as well. Fans tend to overlook coaching turnover when you're a head coach whose teams win a National Championship, play in nine consecutive New Year’s Day bowl games, and have 5 top 10 finishes in 10 years.
February 8, 201510 yr OSU was impressive LATE this year (which is when it counts I guess), but lets not forget they play in probably the weakest Power 5 conference for football. Their schedule was ridiculously easy last year and will be again this year. Losing Alford and Cooks will definitely hurt on the recruiting trail, but I am kind of excited about all these changes. I think it will help the program in the long run and hopefully on the field this year.
February 8, 201510 yr Fans tend to overlook coaching turnover when you're a head coach whose teams win a National Championship, play in nine consecutive New Year’s Day bowl games, and have 5 top 10 finishes in 10 years. I think the fans would freak out even more if we were on top of the college football world and experienced the same kind of staff turnover. Assistant coaches come and go. It happens all the time.
February 8, 201510 yr So far.... Quinn over LafLeur.....IMO HUGE upgrade....Not necessarily as a QB coach, but as an overall coach, with BK's comfort zone...Does not compare Light over Cooks....I'll take it. I don't know what he'll bring to the table but he was awesome watching growing up and he'll definitely have an easy time selling ND. We'll see what he does with Alford but I know he will be hard to replace.
February 8, 201510 yr OSU was impressive LATE this year (which is when it counts I guess), but lets not forget they play in probably the weakest Power 5 conference for football. Their schedule was ridiculously easy last year and will be again this year. Losing Alford and Cooks will definitely hurt on the recruiting trail, but I am kind of excited about all these changes. I think it will help the program in the long run and hopefully on the field this year. You drinkin that SEC koolaid bruh? The Big10 is just as competitive on a relative scale as any other conference. They've just lacked that top team or two which would eventually play the bottom feeders in a couple tight games that leaves the PERCEPTION that Iowa, Northwestern, Illinois, Indiana are really tough competitive teams and if they were in any other conference they would be top 2 or 3...This is the flawed logic that led many of the halfwits of the SEC to believe their conference is best from top to bottom. If Alabama and LSU didn't rule that league, no one would give two shits that Kentucky, South Carolina, or Tennessee "played the champs real close" Turns out these teams have so many common opponents and play each other so often that each team can't help but to play tight games year after year. Watch the bowls there the 3rd and 4th ranked Big10 and SEC teams square off..
February 8, 201510 yr Sometimes, fresh voices and ideas are a good thing. I can't wait for the season to start!
February 8, 201510 yr I know Denson is the flavor of the week, but Eddie Gran would be the real deal hire..........
February 8, 201510 yr You drinkin that SEC koolaid bruh? The Big10 is just as competitive on a relative scale as any other conference. They've just lacked that top team or two which would eventually play the bottom feeders in a couple tight games that leaves the PERCEPTION that Iowa, Northwestern, Illinois, Indiana are really tough competitive teams and if they were in any other conference they would be top 2 or 3...This is the flawed logic that led many of the halfwits of the SEC to believe their conference is best from top to bottom. If Alabama and LSU didn't rule that league, no one would give two shits that Kentucky, South Carolina, or Tennessee "played the champs real close" Turns out these teams have so many common opponents and play each other so often that each team can't help but to play tight games year after year. Watch the bowls there the 3rd and 4th ranked Big10 and SEC teams square off.. I also think the SEC is overrated. dont count me in the group that worships the SEC... not by a long shot. However, I still recognize the B1G as the weakest Power 5 conference in football.
February 8, 201510 yr You drinkin that SEC koolaid bruh? The Big10 is just as competitive on a relative scale as any other conference. They've just lacked that top team or two which would eventually play the bottom feeders in a couple tight games that leaves the PERCEPTION that Iowa, Northwestern, Illinois, Indiana are really tough competitive teams and if they were in any other conference they would be top 2 or 3...This is the flawed logic that led many of the halfwits of the SEC to believe their conference is best from top to bottom. If Alabama and LSU didn't rule that league, no one would give two shits that Kentucky, South Carolina, or Tennessee "played the champs real close" Turns out these teams have so many common opponents and play each other so often that each team can't help but to play tight games year after year. Watch the bowls there the 3rd and 4th ranked Big10 and SEC teams square off.. I agree with you and will take it a step further. Indiana who was 1-7 in the big10 beat Missouri who was 7-1 in the SEC and won the SEC East. Missouri did beat Minn but they were pulling out all the stops, onside kicks, blocked punt attempts, fake punts etc to beat a 5-3 big10 team. Plus Wisconsin beat Auburn, Michigan St beat Baylor, and of course OSU beat The unbeatable Alabama (who beat everybody in the SEC except Ole Miss who was destroyed by TCU) and OSU wiped out Oregon. I have to say the Big 10 (as much as I hate them) deserves the title of top conference. Not the worst. Big10 beat the top SEC team Bama, the top PAC 12 team (Oregon) and arguably the top Big12 team (Baylor). They did not beat the top ACC school (FSU) but they beat Oregon by 22 which beat FSU by 39. Anyone who says SEC is the best conference is just succumbing to ESPN propaganda and bias.
February 9, 201510 yr Anyone who says SEC is the best conference is just succumbing to ESPN propaganda and bias. I dont think anyone has said that in this thread.
February 9, 201510 yr I dont think anyone has said that in this thread. You didn't but you subscribed to their line of thinking with the Big10 is the weakest power 5 conference comment.. You came pretty close.. I'd easily put the Big10 ahead of the ACC all year. I'd probably put them ahead of the big12 and pac12, but all of these are really splitting hairs.. An argument could go either way, but I don't see any way they are clearly the worst power 5 conference...it's pretty neglible IMO.
February 9, 201510 yr Whenever a door shuts another one opens. Very excited about Todd Lyght. Look for Booker to pick up some recruiting slack as he tutored under Alford and he helped reel in Aliz'e Jones. New blood can be very good and it's not like the cupboard is empty. Roster is in great shape.
February 9, 201510 yr Author Whenever a door shuts another one opens. Very excited about Todd Lyght. Look for Booker to pick up some recruiting slack as he tutored under Alford and he helped reel in Aliz'e Jones. New blood can be very good and it's not like the cupboard is empty. Roster is in great shape. that's how I feel, exactly. If this had to happen, we got a Full class in. Alford surprised me the most, but I understand since he was a holdover I don't think he felt there was a chance to be an OC/or assistant HC, which would give him a head coaching shot. I fear its more that Tony's a quiet guy , but we'll see. the other two don't. Cooks was Diaco's right hand and took somewhat of a back seat after Vangorder was Hired. Lafluer was just waiting for a Shanahan Kyle or Mike to have a spot.
To all of you who wanted coaching changes during the losing streak. We got some.
In reality on the field the running backs and corners have been just ok.
We had a quarterback coach but Brian Kelly is in there lots, Redundancy warning.
Yes. Alford and Cooks are two beast recruiters. Next man up, Scott Booker.
Sorry. Some of you guys want change but still resist when it happens
Keep the Faith!!!