Same player, same tools. If Everett can get his confidence back, he is capable of having a heisman season like Troy Smith.

 

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A scrambling Golson or a scrambling Smith, who you taking? I know who my money is on...

If he can't hold on to the ball he has zero potential.

Sorta combining what Rocket and ndmike said.....but EG has almost no chance to realize his potential if he (1) can't figure out how to hold on to the ball (2) can't learn how to be less nervous when he is moving and (3) can't learn how to read the pocket (when to scramble and when not to)

 

In all honesty, I look at EG as a guy that could have JC type passing stats with the addition of 50-75 yards running a game "if" he ironed out a few issues. I am not sure if that is Troy Smith type numbers, but I do think those are Heisman numbers...

If he can't hold on to the ball he has zero potential.

agreed, golson is high risk high reward type player. those who don't remember history are doomed to repeat it.

Sorta combining what Rocket and ndmike said.....but EG has almost no chance to realize his potential if he (1) can't figure out how to hold on to the ball (2) can't learn how to be less nervous when he is moving and (3) can't learn how to read the pocket (when to scramble and when not to)

 

In all honesty, I look at EG as a guy that could have JC type passing stats with the addition of 50-75 yards running a game "if" he ironed out a few issues. I am not sure if that is Troy Smith type numbers, but I do think those are Heisman numbers...

 

If you haven't figured it out by the time you're 22, you never will. (BTW, did anyone else know the insane fact that Malik Zaire is 24 years old?)

Go back and watch some of the Mich game... that Golson is totally capable of being a Heisman-candidate player. I'd take EG at his best over almost anyone, but since we don't know what we're gonna get from game to game, it's hard to imagine taking the chance. Sad really. Like IrishGuy said, moving forward, he has almost no chance to realize his full potential.

Where did you see Malik is 24.. He was born in 1995.. He is 19

Go back and watch some of the Mich game... that Golson is totally capable of being a Heisman-candidate player. I'd take EG at his best over almost anyone, but since we don't know what we're gonna get from game to game, it's hard to imagine taking the chance. Sad really. Like IrishGuy said, moving forward, he has almost no chance to realize his full potential.

 

We must have been watching different games.

Count me in as one who thinks Golson can be an elite college QB. Things he needs to work on:

1. Obviously, ball security: Make him run drills with the backs.

2. Confidence: Design a game plan that runs the ball with high percentage pass plays. Teach him how to check down to his backs more often. Obviously this will help with picks too.

3. Team leadership: Stop sulking, listen to your coach, and rally your team...

 

These are all correctable things that I think he can accomplish. I really hope he comes back.

Count me in as one who thinks Golson can be an elite college QB. Things he needs to work on:

1. Obviously, ball security: Make him run drills with the backs.

2. Confidence: Design a game plan that runs the ball with high percentage pass plays. Teach him how to check down to his backs more often. Obviously this will help with picks too.

3. Team leadership: Stop sulking, listen to your coach, and rally your team...

 

These are all correctable things that I think he can accomplish. I really hope he comes back.

 

As a former QB, I don't know how much of this is really correctable.

 

How many guys just suddenly become great leaders? You are or you aren't. If you aren't and try to be, it just looks fake.

 

To me, Golson is just a quiet kid. Nothing wrong with that, but to try and make him something he isn't just doesn't work. Look at what happened when Kelly tries to keep him in the pocket and make him a "passer".

 

He is in his 4th year of college football. To ask him to reinvent himself at this point is asking a lot.

Count me in as one who thinks Golson can be an elite college QB. Things he needs to work on:

1. Obviously, ball security: Make him run drills with the backs.

2. Confidence: Design a game plan that runs the ball with high percentage pass plays. Teach him how to check down to his backs more often. Obviously this will help with picks too.

3. Team leadership: Stop sulking, listen to your coach, and rally your team...

 

These are all correctable things that I think he can accomplish. I really hope he comes back.

 

??? No amount of drills can cure a player of fumblitis. You can't teach a player how not to fumble... You either have the propensity to fumble or you don't

I don't expect him to be a vocal leader. I do expect him to rally his team by example. He can get himself together to be a positive, quiet leader.

Fumbling can be coached and corrected. The habit can be developed with drills and attention to detail.

We must have been watching different games.

 

Really? being totally serious here...please tell me what you mean.

I appreciate the optimism of the OP. But I think we got what we got. He certainly can be utilized next year, but Heisman worthy? No way IMHO

Really? being totally serious here...please tell me what you mean.

 

I think he played ok vs Michigan, but I don't feel like he was moving the ball up and down the field at will and throwing all over the defense.

 

He was something like 24-34 for 225 yards or so. 3 TD's, 0 INT's. His stats were ok, but most of his throws were underneath. ND had under 300 yards of total offense.

 

Don't get me wrong, it was a fine game, but I don't see a game with 31 points and 225 yards and think, "Wow, I hope we get that guy every game from here on out."

 

If I had to choose a "Golson", I'd choose the Navy Golson, though the opponent wasn't the best.

 

For the first 4 games of the year, Golson was really good, but even so, did you ever feel like the offense was unstoppable? Even against Purdue and Syracuse, everything on offense just seemed like a grind. Nothing really seemed to come easy other than vs Rice.

 

Then you got into the TO games, and even though he played well in stretches, you couldn't say he played great for a whole game.

 

Golson has oodles of potential, but I think we need to realize that potential doesn't sit idle for 4 years of a college career. At some point, he is what he is.

I think he played ok vs Michigan, but I don't feel like he was moving the ball up and down the field at will and throwing all over the defense.

 

He was something like 24-34 for 225 yards or so. 3 TD's, 0 INT's. His stats were ok, but most of his throws were underneath. ND had under 300 yards of total offense.

 

Don't get me wrong, it was a fine game, but I don't see a game with 31 points and 225 yards and think, "Wow, I hope we get that guy every game from here on out."

 

If I had to choose a "Golson", I'd choose the Navy Golson, though the opponent wasn't the best.

 

For the first 4 games of the year, Golson was really good, but even so, did you ever feel like the offense was unstoppable? Even against Purdue and Syracuse, everything on offense just seemed like a grind. Nothing really seemed to come easy other than vs Rice.

 

Then you got into the TO games, and even though he played well in stretches, you couldn't say he played great for a whole game.

 

Golson has oodles of potential, but I think we need to realize that potential doesn't sit idle for 4 years of a college career. At some point, he is what he is.

 

Speaking only specifically of that game, for me, it went beyond the stat lines, which were pretty impressive on their own. He looked crisp, decisive, sharp, accurate, confident, in command of the offense. To me, that EG on a consistent basis is totally capable of being a trophy candidate, as he was till the wheels began to fall off.

 

But you are right, and sadly so, that at some point this late in his college career, it's hard to reverse what people see you as (and what you have become), and at this moment, it's that of a roller coaster ride player with a better than average chance to hand the ball over to the other guys.

First of all, this was only Golson's second year of playing. Second of all, Brady Quinn started out as an interception machine. Different position, but Harrison Smith went from being a 3 year horrible player, to a first round draft pick after his 4th year. He's still football young. He has a big upside guys.

First of all, this was only Golson's second year of playing. Second of all, Brady Quinn started out as an interception machine. Different position, but Harrison Smith went from being a 3 year horrible player, to a first round draft pick after his 4th year. He's still football young. He has a big upside guys.

 

Obviously I'm with you on the potential thing, and since he's shown us how good he can be, it's right to expect him to grow and improve upon that, and just get better and better.

 

But the other guys have a point that the word "potential" starts to run out of steam in a "win now" environment, especially now that Malik has given us a sniff of what he can bring while EG is regressing.

I don't expect him to be a vocal leader. I do expect him to rally his team by example. He can get himself together to be a positive, quiet leader.

Fumbling can be coached and corrected. The habit can be developed with drills and attention to detail.

 

Find me one player in the history of football who has been cured of fumblitis. And then find me that coach, because he'll need a statue erected in Canton post haste...

Obviously I'm with you on the potential thing, and since he's shown us how good he can be, it's right to expect him to grow and improve upon that, and just get better and better.

 

But the other guys have a point that the word "potential" starts to run out of steam in a "win now" environment, especially now that Malik has given us a sniff of what he can bring while EG is regressing.

 

Agreed. If this team is going to win a NC next year it will be with a leader like Malik. Would bet the house that Golson transfers and does well for himself. Would also bet the house that Malik is capable of leading this team to a playoff berth.