We all saw the 59-0 destruction of Wisconsin in the B1G Championship. Urban Meyer took a team that lost Miller right before the season and managed to lose only one game, getting stronger and stronger as the year went on. We see him lose his backup last week and is forced to use his third string qb. They absolutely destroyed Wisconsin and he played quite well with one week to prepare.

 

Contrast that to Kelly struggling with Crist, Rees, Hendrix and now Golson. Whether it be turnovers, not grasping the offense, asked to carry too much of the load, being headcases and every excuse that one can come up with, it's just not happening. He has had 5 years to create an offense as good and as competent as Urban ' s is tonight.

 

Many of us can't wrap our head around this. Would somebody like to explai to us what's going on here? Does Ohio State have a much more talented offensive line? Do they have better skill position players? Do they have a better offensive coaching staff from the head coach down? Are the players able to concentrate more on football? What the heck is going on here?

We all saw the 59-0 destruction of Wisconsin in the B1G Championship. Urban Meyer took a team that lost Miller right before the season and managed to lose only one game, getting stronger and stronger as the year went on. We see him lose his backup last week and is forced to use his third string qb. They absolutely destroyed Wisconsin and he played quite well with one week to prepare.

 

Contrast that to Kelly struggling with Crist, Rees, Hendrix and now Golson. Whether it be turnovers, not grasping the offense, asked to carry too much of the load, being headcases and every excuse that one can come up with, it's just not happening. He has had 5 years to create an offense as good and as competent as Urban ' s is tonight.

 

Many of us can't wrap our head around this. Would somebody like to explai to us what's going on here? Does Ohio State have a much more talented offensive line? Do they have better skill position players? Do they have a better offensive coaching staff from the head coach down? Are the players able to concentrate more on football? What the heck is going on here?

 

Honestly I think when you play a heavy conference schedule and a weak OOC schedule you prepare for the same kind of offense, defense, etc... day in day out, week in week out. There is not a lot of variety in B1G football. That is why he is able to snap pieces in, the offense does not change one week to the next. D is the same.

 

That is also why OSU struggled in their non-conference games this year. Contrast that to ND. No excuses, but there is a reason behind it. No team in the nation is going to have to prepare for more different looks than ND.

Does Ohio State have a much more talented offensive line? Do they have better skill position players? Do they have a better offensive coaching staff from the head coach down?

 

Well, this is the one odd part. Remember that their OL coach was also at ND with Kelly, and had some severe issues in his line here. Also, Taylor Decker, former ND commit, flipped to tOSU after Warriner flipped, too.

Core Values:

 

Urbie would rather run the ball then throw it. Tebow, J.T Barrett, throwing QB is a 3rd stringer

 

He values Special Teams so much that he often coaches it himself.

 

Defense he recruits the nations best without regard for academics

 

Kelly wants to throw first, his backup QB's can run

 

He tries to recruit the nations best defense but academics and location prevent a lot of it.

 

He lacks commitment to or maybe understanding of modern special teams. It will be good 1 in 5 years or so combined

Edited December 11, 201410 yr by FaithInIrishForever

We all saw the 59-0 destruction of Wisconsin in the B1G Championship. Urban Meyer took a team that lost Miller right before the season and managed to lose only one game, getting stronger and stronger as the year went on. We see him lose his backup last week and is forced to use his third string qb. They absolutely destroyed Wisconsin and he played quite well with one week to prepare.

 

Contrast that to Kelly struggling with Crist, Rees, Hendrix and now Golson. Whether it be turnovers, not grasping the offense, asked to carry too much of the load, being headcases and every excuse that one can come up with, it's just not happening. He has had 5 years to create an offense as good and as competent as Urban ' s is tonight.

 

Many of us can't wrap our head around this. Would somebody like to explai to us what's going on here? Does Ohio State have a much more talented offensive line? Do they have better skill position players? Do they have a better offensive coaching staff from the head coach down? Are the players able to concentrate more on football? What the heck is going on here?

 

You're the OSU fan, you tell us.

I'm not a Urban Myer co(k gobbler like many that have crawled out of the woodwork here. I will say that he did a good job in that game. I have to wonder a couple of things that may have attributed to the lopsidedness of the game though. First being that maybe Anderson didn't prepare his team well as they had no idea of what they would see out of the new OSU qb. One other being the fact that Anderson didn't give a **** about that game because he had already known he was about to run for the hills. We will find out soon enough, when they play Satans boys down south.

People here love him because he was once one of us and all he does is win.

Core Values:

 

Urbie would rather run the ball then throw it. Tebow, J.T Barrett, throwing QB is a 3rd stringer

 

He values Special Teams so much that he often coaches it himself.

 

Defense he recruits the nations best without regard for academics

 

Kelly wants to throw first, his backup QB's can run

 

He tries to recruit the nations best defense but academics and location prevent a lot of it.

 

He lacks commitment to or maybe understanding of modern special teams. It will be good 1 in 5 years or so combined

 

Yo Faith...you nailed it!!!! Perfect.

 

I love BK and really wanted Urban...

 

Different beliefs in the passing game too...BK wants to stretch the field with a verticAl game...Urban is alot of play action; due to the run game commitment.

Yo Faith...you nailed it!!!! Perfect.

 

I love BK and really wanted Urban...

 

Different beliefs in the passing game too...BK wants to stretch the field with a verticAl game...Urban is alot of play action; due to the run game commitment.

 

agreed I'm not asking for a different coach , I'm Just asking for more running game.

 

Running game helps the passing game(play action) and eventually the defense (time off).

 

Any coincidence that 2012 was the only year ND ran for 200 yards per game under BK? Defense was pretty good too as I remember.

 

Balance is key and 200 is magic

 

give me a team that gets 200 of both AND I"LL WIN BIG!! LOL

Blah blah blah...

 

We were 12-0 2 years ago.

 

Grass is green when it is real...

 

BLah blah blah...

Blah blah blah...

 

We were 12-0 2 years ago.

 

Grass is green when it is real...

 

BLah blah blah...

 

Yeah that offense was really on fire 2 years ago when they had to keep benching Golson so Rees.could finish games. And OSU was 12-0 two years ago too

Edited December 12, 201410 yr by Irish Storm

Yeah that offense was really on fire 2 years ago when they had to keep benching Golson so Rees.could finish games

 

And how many games did Rees win for ND?

If Rees could play, he would have been starting.

And how many games did Rees win for ND?

If Rees could play, he would have been starting.

 

He played an integral part in helping us win two or three.

I still have no clue what people talk about when they say Kelly's offense, like he's some offensive mastermind or something lol. I never thought his offenses did anything that special, had 2 good years running the ball that's it. He never ran well and had a couple nice passing season at Cinci, let's keep in mind that's in the Big East.

 

I really think Kelly is one of the most overhyped coaches around.

We scored enough points to win every single game. BK has an offense that works just fine. That includes the turnovers. Are they good? NO WAY! But we still scored enough...

 

What tugs my nuts is Urban had his 3rd string ready for a Heisman statement game. Where did BK go wrong? IMO, he brought in a great QB coach but he can't be hands off enough. Same with special teams. Ego... hopefully he learned a little something something this year.

I've watched Brian Kelly coach Notre Dame for the last five years and I am convinced...He doesn't have an offense. He has no clue what he wants to do. You look game to game and you can't make heads or tails of what he wants to do. I thought he did a masterful job calling plays in the 'Cuse game and then? The bubble screen only made one appearance of note the rest of the season and that was goal-line against FSU.

 

Urban has run the same offense everywhere. Alex Smith, Chris Leak, Tim Tebow, Braxton Miller, [insert Random Backup QB]. Brian has been an UTTER FAILURE and putting an offense together.

I think it's pretty simple: Meyer runs the spread offense uptempo like every other team that has success with it does.

 

I've been waiting for years for Kelly to finally have some pace with his offense, and after this season I guess it's time to stop waiting since it's not going to happen.

Here's one big difference: Big chunk plays.

 

Kelly never truly establishes his QB as a running threat and uses a pass first offense. So, defensive coordinators rarely use one safety and rarely have to resort to man coverage. That makes Golson have to make multiple reads inside the pocket to get big chunk plays against teams playing zone coverage with two safeties back. It's very difficult to execute.

 

Contrast this to what Meyer does: He has a run first offense that includes his QB keeping on zone read plays. He hammers this until he gets one safety deep coverage and or/man coverage on outside receivers. His big chuck throws are simple: He has his QB act like he's going to run, then he steps back and throws to his pre designed target who has man coverage. It's very simple to execute.

 

Can you imagine Will Fuller in Meyer's offense? At ND Golson often can't find him because he's reading multiple coverage keys before he even looks in his direction, and there's; often a safety over the top. At Ohio State Fuller would be the main read with no safety over the top and all Golson would have to do is fake like he's going to run, step back and throw it deep.

 

Here's my theory: Kelly wants to be an NFL Head Coach. Meyer doesn't. That's why Kelly's offense is so multi-read QB-pass oriented and Meyer's isn't.

I've watched Brian Kelly coach Notre Dame for the last five years and I am convinced...He doesn't have an offense. He has no clue what he wants to do. You look game to game and you can't make heads or tails of what he wants to do. I thought he did a masterful job calling plays in the 'Cuse game and then? The bubble screen only made one appearance of note the rest of the season and that was goal-line against FSU.

 

Urban has run the same offense everywhere. Alex Smith, Chris Leak, Tim Tebow, Braxton Miller, [insert Random Backup QB]. Brian has been an UTTER FAILURE and putting an offense together.

 

10 out of 10 people i talk to about the ND offense say's the same thing....

Why does BK run a different offense every week, why doesn't he stick to plays that actually work.

Here's one big difference: Big chunk plays.

 

Kelly never truly establishes his QB as a running threat and uses a pass first offense. So, defensive coordinators rarely use one safety and rarely have to resort to man coverage. That makes Golson have to make multiple reads inside the pocket to get big chunk plays against teams playing zone coverage with two safeties back. It's very difficult to execute.

 

Contrast this to what Meyer does: He has a run first offense that includes his QB keeping on zone read plays. He hammers this until he gets one safety deep coverage and or/man coverage on outside receivers. His big chuck throws are simple: He has his QB act like he's going to run, then he steps back and throws to his pre designed target who has man coverage. It's very simple to execute.

 

Can you imagine Will Fuller in Meyer's offense? At ND Golson often can't find him because he's reading multiple coverage keys before he even looks in his direction, and there's; often a safety over the top. At Ohio State Fuller would be the main read with no safety over the top and all Golson would have to do is fake like he's going to run, step back and throw it deep.

 

Here's my theory: Kelly wants to be an NFL Head Coach. Meyer doesn't. That's why Kelly's offense is so multi-read QB-pass oriented and Meyer's isn't.

 

Excellent explanation

Here's one big difference: Big chunk plays.

 

Kelly never truly establishes his QB as a running threat and uses a pass first offense. So, defensive coordinators rarely use one safety and rarely have to resort to man coverage. That makes Golson have to make multiple reads inside the pocket to get big chunk plays against teams playing zone coverage with two safeties back. It's very difficult to execute.

 

Contrast this to what Meyer does: He has a run first offense that includes his QB keeping on zone read plays. He hammers this until he gets one safety deep coverage and or/man coverage on outside receivers. His big chuck throws are simple: He has his QB act like he's going to run, then he steps back and throws to his pre designed target who has man coverage. It's very simple to execute.

 

Can you imagine Will Fuller in Meyer's offense? At ND Golson often can't find him because he's reading multiple coverage keys before he even looks in his direction, and there's; often a safety over the top. At Ohio State Fuller would be the main read with no safety over the top and all Golson would have to do is fake like he's going to run, step back and throw it deep.

 

Here's my theory: Kelly wants to be an NFL Head Coach. Meyer doesn't. That's why Kelly's offense is so multi-read QB-pass oriented and Meyer's isn't.

 

Can you please call his office and tell him this: (574) 631-7475.