So, as Hansen mentioned in his column on Sunday, BK has benched EVERY SINGLE ONE OF HIS STARTING QB'S at ND.

 

That is incredible. Everyone on this board in summer was going on that FINALLY BK got "his" QB and look out! But again, a QB under BK gets WORSE as the season goes on and he gets benched. This one fact speaks volume about where this program is at currently. It is also is indicative of BK blaming the player rather then his own inability to coach 'em up. There is no reason to believe that this will change. Expect QB carousel central to continue. Which means we will be mediocre unless our D has a year like 2012, somehow.

 

I love this Winbush kid currently committed to ND but man, I also can't help but think BK is gonna mess him up too...

Crist was a mental case.

 

Rees had no arm.

 

Hendrix couldn't handle the pressure.

 

Golson is a bit too short and turnover prone.

 

Certainly you can't expect Kelly to do anything with that motley crew, can you?

I Told you ALL from the Beginning BK is STEVE SPURRIER NORTHEAST VERSION,

 

Lol Cory, I hope Malik is "just right" as I channel Goldylocks!!

Kelly is far from being a QB Guru at ND! Why has all of his QB's turn the ball over at an alarming rate? Does he even know how to teach fundamentals?

Kelly is far from being a QB Guru at ND! Why has all of his QB's turn the ball over at an alarming rate? Does he even know how to teach fundamentals?

 

How would you teach a kid to hold the ball high and tight?

 

It seems easy to me, I'm sure the same to you. BK has been coaching forever. You'd think he knows how to coach that. I'm sure it has more to do with the player at this point. Seriously, how do you fumble a spike?

But again, a QB under BK gets WORSE as the season goes on and he gets benched. This one fact speaks volume about where this program is at currently.

ND needs a RUNNING GAME to help take the pressure off the QB, otherwise your asking them to carry the entire load on offense. having a strong running game imo would solve a lot of the offensive problems particularly in the redzone.

ND needs a RUNNING GAME to help take the pressure off the QB, otherwise your asking them to carry the entire load on offense. having a strong running game imo would solve a lot of the offensive problems particularly in the redzone.

 

 

That's a nice thought but Kelly only runs to set up the pass.

 

That is not going to ever change.

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Hanson was on the radio tonight saying that Golson is the starter and will start the bowl game. He was blaming the line for Golson's troubles.

Hanson was on the radio tonight saying that Golson is the starter and will start the bowl game. He was blaming the line for Golson's troubles.

 

 

Forget next season then. Golson is not a leader.

Forget next season then. Golson is not a leader.

 

Golson had a crap season, we can all agree on that. Golson singlehandedly lost the team games in a way we haven't seen since...last year with Tommy Rees, we can all agree on that. But explain this please "not a leader" thing to me. What is a "leader?" What has/hasn't Golson done to prove that he is a "leader?"

That's a nice thought but Kelly only runs to set up the pass.

 

That is not going to ever change.

 

So very true. I hate BK's offense...always have and always will with the mentality he has.

Hanson was on the radio tonight saying that Golson is the starter and will start the bowl game. He was blaming the line for Golson's troubles.

 

That is the dumbest thing I've heard all week. If Golson is the starter for the bowl game, I am not watching it.

I think we also have to remember that Golson was hurt going into the usc game....just sayin....

I actually do still think Golson is the man moving forward. He needed to sit, and it actually needed to happen earlier, but he still has great potential moving forward. Now the leash needs to be tightened, and he needs to mature, but hopefully his performance in the bowl game is a positive step forward.

Kelly is far from being a QB Guru at ND! Why has all of his QB's turn the ball over at an alarming rate? Does he even know how to teach fundamentals?

 

Not a fair question. Golson was the first QB that he recruited to run his offense and his first year was unbelievable. Or did you forget that year?

This year Golson was coached by a private coach while being suspended before reporting to ND.

The first half of the season he played very well, while being coached by Kelly. The int at the end of the FSU game seemed to affect him more than the rest of the players. He was pressured to make plays while being pressured by the opponent`s defense. He tried to force some balls also some of the balls were picked after bouncing off of the receivers hands.

Also, he was stripped in the backfield trying to avoid the sack that poured through the O line.

Most of the time he was trying to win the game but on a couple picks, he didn`t see a defender and threw it right to him.

The pressure mounted and so did the turn overs.

 

What fundamentals are you talking about.

Throwing with the fingers on the seam is not a fundamental. It is a choice.

Not a fair question. Golson was the first QB that he recruited to run his offense and his first year was unbelievable. Or did you forget that year?

This year Golson was coached by a private coach while being suspended before reporting to ND.

The first half of the season he played very well, while being coached by Kelly. The int at the end of the FSU game seemed to affect him more than the rest of the players. He was pressured to make plays while being pressured by the opponent`s defense. He tried to force some balls also some of the balls were picked after bouncing off of the receivers hands.

Also, he was stripped in the backfield trying to avoid the sack that poured through the O line.

Most of the time he was trying to win the game but on a couple picks, he didn`t see a defender and threw it right to him.

The pressure mounted and so did the turn overs.

 

What fundamentals are you talking about.

Throwing with the fingers on the seam is not a fundamental. It is a choice.

 

You do know 2012 was the lowest scoring of Kelly's 5 seasons right?

 

What fundamentals are you talking about.

Throwing with the fingers on the seam is not a fundamental. It is a choice.

 

Here's a few fundamentals I'd like to see EG improve:

 

Checking down to running backs instead of holding the ball too long.

 

When not able to check down, take the sack and live for the next down. Don't panic and turn the ball over by fumbling or throwing and interception in that situation.

 

Improve pocket presence. Get better at stepping up in the pocket and either delivering the ball or checking down.

 

Get better at the zone read running play at all levels: Mesh point, when to hand the ball and when to run. Be a consistent zone read running threat.

 

Get better at either executing the QB draw or a middle screen to a running back.

Here's a few fundamentals I'd like to see EG improve:

 

Checking down to running backs instead of holding the ball too long.

 

When not able to check down, take the sack and live for the next down. Don't panic and turn the ball over by fumbling or throwing and interception in that situation.

 

Improve pocket presence. Get better at stepping up in the pocket and either delivering the ball or checking down.

 

Get better at the zone read running play at all levels: Mesh point, when to hand the ball and when to run. Be a consistent zone read running threat.

 

Get better at either executing the QB draw or a middle screen to a running back.

 

God, that's a big list. I am not sure he can do it. All of them were definitely shown to be big issues for him this year.

Hanson was on the radio tonight saying that Golson is the starter and will start the bowl game. He was blaming the line for Golson's troubles.

 

If I'm Zaire and Golson gets the nod for the bowl game, I'm transferring next year because it will be clear Kelly has too much of an ego to ever concede he was wrong. Why rot on the bench at ND for another year when you could do it somewhere else that might give you a fair shake?

 

Zaire deserves an audition in the bowl game, and Golson could use a wake up call to get his head right going into the off season.

If I'm Zaire and Golson gets the nod for the bowl game, I'm transferring next year because it will be clear Kelly has too much of an ego to ever concede he was wrong. Why rot on the bench at ND for another year when you could do it somewhere else that might give you a fair shake?

 

Zaire deserves an audition in the bowl game, and Golson could use a wake up call to get his head right going into the off season.

 

Well, he'd have to rot on the bench at the new place anyway, so what difference would it make? He'd get an ND degree, is the defacto starter the following year and would be first in line if Golson should falter.

 

Transferring always seems like an easy option, but it is rarely as straightforward as it appears.

Well, he'd have to rot on the bench at the new place anyway, so what difference would it make?

 

That's kind of what I meant-if he stays he's basically sitting out next year anyway, so why not do it somewhere that he'll actually get a fair shake.

 

Getting the ND degree is good point though.