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Good to hear. I want Kelly here long term. I'd like to see a few changes but overall feel he is doing a good job.

I guess I'll have to ask Santa for something else.

There has never been more of a fine line than right now in college football. So many great players. So much good coaching.

 

If ND was getting blown off the ball/out of the stadium with it's front-line players looking ill-coached, disinterested and clueless, I'd be the first calling for a change.

 

But so much of this year has been about a VERY TALENTED QB till ironing out some wrinkles (which he should have been doing last year) injuries, youth and some bad luck that left ND essentially seconds/a few plays from being 10-1 right now.

 

There is a difference between incompetence/can't win with this guy with "a team is a few correctable mistakes/better health away from being as good as anyone in the country.

 

I truly believe the painful lessons of this year will be the catalyst and motivation an EXTREMELY talented, well-coached team will take into this off-season, training camp and next year.

 

I'm ecstatic the same coach will be on the sideline leading the way.

 

He's a keeper.

There has never been more of a fine line than right now in college football. So many great players. So much good coaching.

 

If ND was getting blown off the ball/out of the stadium with it's front-line players looking ill-coached, disinterested and clueless, I'd be the first calling for a change.

 

But so much of this year has been about a VERY TALENTED QB till ironing out some wrinkles (which he should have been doing last year) injuries, youth and some bad luck that left ND essentially seconds/a few plays from being 10-1 right now.

 

There is a difference between incompetence/can't win with this guy with "a team is a few correctable mistakes/better health away from being as good as anyone in the country.

 

I truly believe the painful lessons of this year will be the catalyst and motivation an EXTREMELY talented, well-coached team will take into this off-season, training camp and next year.

 

I'm ecstatic the same coach will be on the sideline leading the way.

 

He's a keeper.

 

This is fine, but this is likely the last time in a while Nd will get a 3 year starter at QB.

 

BK needs an offense that can hum 5 games into a QBs career, not 25.

This is fine, but this is likely the last time in a while Nd will get a 3 year starter at QB.

 

BK needs an offense that can hum 5 games into a QBs career, not 25.

 

Not sure you can make that claim.

 

But either way: Ideally If/when Malik takes over it will be his 4th year in the program with 2 years of eligibility.

 

Or, one of the younger guys win it and they'll be in line to start three seasons.

 

So, BK will either have a well-groomed, mature replacement for EG who will start the 2016/17 seasons or a dynamic young talent who won the job and is in line to play three seasons.

 

An let's hope none of them mess up scholastically and cost ND or themselves a full season of valuable experience.

I was just gonna say... what if Kelly leaves, Harbaugh doesn't get extended in SF and came to ND.... kinda random but I thought that would really cool.

There has never been more of a fine line than right now in college football. So many great players. So much good coaching.

 

If ND was getting blown off the ball/out of the stadium with it's front-line players looking ill-coached, disinterested and clueless, I'd be the first calling for a change.

 

 

Was just telling the misses that the other day. It wasn't long ago that we went to Tallahassee, and for the most part, outplayed a team full of top-rated recruits, led by a guy playing the most important position on the field, who just happens to be the reigning Heisman winner...I don't care how they're winning games, they're still loaded with talent, and we were right there with 'em.

 

That's the frustrating part....we are so freaking close, and I am still - for one more year anyway - holding out hope that BK can get this team over the hump and do what we expect, which is to beat every team we "should," and have a better chance than most at beating the really tough teams. I really think we have enough to get 10 wins at the least every year. I admit though, my patience with BK is getting thin.

 

The only thing I see missing is kind of an intangible, and that's a team with a collective mean disposition. I woulda thought w/BK's intensity that we would have it, but not so much. I only hope a couple warrior-mentality leaders emerge next year.

Was just telling the misses that the other day. It wasn't long ago that we went to Tallahassee, and for the most part, outplayed a team full of top-rated recruits, led by a guy playing the most important position on the field, who just happens to be the reigning Heisman winner...I don't care how they're winning games, they're still loaded with talent, and we were right there with 'em.

 

That's the frustrating part....we are so freaking close, and I am still - for one more year anyway - holding out hope that BK can get this team over the hump and do what we expect, which is to beat every team we "should," and have a better chance than most at beating the really tough teams. I really think we have enough to get 10 wins at the least every year. I admit though, my patience with BK is getting thin.

 

The only thing I see missing is kind of an intangible, and that's a team with a collective mean disposition. I woulda thought w/BK's intensity that we would have it, but not so much. I only hope a couple warrior-mentality leaders emerge next year.

 

Almost every team the Noles have played this year could say that. Last year's FSU squad would've disemboweled us. We aren't close. We are nowhere near.

I was just gonna say... what if Kelly leaves, Harbaugh doesn't get extended in SF and came to ND.... kinda random but I thought that would really cool.

I've thought about Harbaugh to ND before, but I don't think it'd work. A plus he is a great coach and is Catholic. However, his overcompetiveness is his downfall. Seriously, the dude can't stand to lose and it affects his personality/coaching style. He is, also, not the friendliest coach (to be as polite as possible) to his players under duress. Word on the street is he is done in SF after this year even if they WIN the Super Bowl. I'd, at least, entertain it if we had a vacancy. No doubt in my mind that Michigan will roll out the red carpet for him. No doubt at all.

Not sure you can make that claim.

 

But either way: Ideally If/when Malik takes over it will be his 4th year in the program with 2 years of eligibility.

 

Or, one of the younger guys win it and they'll be in line to start three seasons.

 

So, BK will either have a well-groomed, mature replacement for EG who will start the 2016/17 seasons or a dynamic young talent who won the job and is in line to play three seasons.

 

An let's hope none of them mess up scholastically and cost ND or themselves a full season of valuable experience.

 

You don't get well groomed by never playing. Only experience that matters for a QB is game experience.

 

Hopefully Zaire can come in and perform at a high level, but the ND track record of such is pretty low.

 

With turnover so high in college football, you can't be relying on guys needing 3-4-5 five years in a system to be successful.

You don't get well groomed by never playing. Only experience that matters for a QB is game experience.

 

Hopefully Zaire can come in and perform at a high level, but the ND track record of such is pretty low.

 

With turnover so high in college football, you can't be relying on guys needing 3-4-5 five years in a system to be successful.

 

Does that include bobbling snaps on game winning field goals or PATs?

There has never been more of a fine line than right now in college football. So many great players. So much good coaching.

 

If ND was getting blown off the ball/out of the stadium with it's front-line players looking ill-coached, disinterested and clueless, I'd be the first calling for a change.

 

But so much of this year has been about a VERY TALENTED QB till ironing out some wrinkles (which he should have been doing last year) injuries, youth and some bad luck that left ND essentially seconds/a few plays from being 10-1 right now.

 

There is a difference between incompetence/can't win with this guy with "a team is a few correctable mistakes/better health away from being as good as anyone in the country.

 

I truly believe the painful lessons of this year will be the catalyst and motivation an EXTREMELY talented, well-coached team will take into this off-season, training camp and next year.

 

I'm ecstatic the same coach will be on the sideline leading the way.

 

He's a keeper.

 

 

So they didn't learn the painful lessons from last season?

 

Kelly has to have a three or four year starter for his offense to succeed? Why don't other coaches?

Kelly has to have a three or four year starter for his offense to succeed? Why don't other coaches?

 

Were you in a deep slumber in 2012 when he went to the NC with a first-year starter?

 

That was a tremendous (experienced) team effort around a redshirt-freshman QB

 

This year is an extremely young team around a QB who lost his second starting season to suspension.

 

Next year looks to be experience across the board.

Were you in a deep slumber in 2012 when he went to the NC with a first-year starter?

 

That was a tremendous (experienced) team effort around a redshirt-freshman QB

 

This year is an extremely young team around a QB who lost his second starting season to suspension.Next year looks to be experience across the board.

 

He lost more than playing time. He lost his mojo IMHO.

i was never worried about this.

I've thought about Harbaugh to ND before, but I don't think it'd work. A plus he is a great coach and is Catholic. However, his overcompetiveness is his downfall. Seriously, the dude can't stand to lose and it affects his personality/coaching style. He is, also, not the friendliest coach (to be as polite as possible) to his players under duress. Word on the street is he is done in SF after this year even if they WIN the Super Bowl. I'd, at least, entertain it if we had a vacancy. No doubt in my mind that Michigan will roll out the red carpet for him. No doubt at all.

 

There are plenty of people on bad campus who are the smartest guys in the room. I think we could use a little raw, pitbull type emotion. Kelly gets mad and it almost seems contrite. Harbaugh gets mad and it seems like her care.

 

Just my thoughts... Not saying one is better than the other just thought it would be cool to have a coach who wasn't a pompous *** like sweet lou and had some real passion.

He lost more than playing time. He lost his mojo IMHO.

 

I don't agree. He's grown a whole bunch in my opinion. In fact he has a tremendous amount more on his plate now than he ever did in 2012, and for the most part he's responded.

 

But with added assignment comes added responsibility.

 

I think he's still adjusting to that reality. And it's not so much about confidence, it's about attention to detail.

 

He still thinks he can make a full turn to avoid a pass rush while holding the ball low - but he can't. The opponents are too fast and good, they swipe the ball away.

 

If anything from last Saturday pleased me, it was EG turning halfway, covering the ball and taking the sack on a mad rush, and living to make another play rather than turning it over.

Almost every team the Noles have played this year could say that. Last year's FSU squad would've disemboweled us. We aren't close. We are nowhere near.

 

Hey, you can see it however you want.

Hey, you can see it however you want.

 

There aren't really two perspectives here. 4 under-performing seasons out of 5. And the fifth could have ended up the same way if it weren't for a series of fortunate bounces against mediocre teams.

 

Everyone knows FSU is going to get throttled in the playoffs this year. They are an average team who has found a way to win games that they should lose. Just like our 2012 squad.

Edited November 26, 201410 yr by echo88

There aren't really two perspectives here. 4 under-performing seasons out of 5. And the fifth could have ended up the same way if it weren't for a series of fortunate bounces against mediocre teams.

 

Everyone knows FSU is going to get throttled in the playoffs this year. They are an average team who has found a way to win games that they should lose. Just like our 2012 squad.

 

FSU is going to get upset by Florida on Saturday.