Two things:

 

1. This is the first time my confidence in CBK has been truly shaken. The coaching mistakes in this loss are more than head-scratchers, they are unacceptable.

 

2. If I am Malik Zaire, I transfer at this point. Golson's play has been less than stellar for the better part of the season, and today he was clearly hurt. The argument continues to be he gives us the best chance to win while we sit at 7-3. But wait, most people predicted we would lose 3 or 4 games. REALLY? AND THAT IS ACCEPTABLE? Kelly simply baffles me by not giving the back up a shot.

 

I honestly don't believe Brian Kelly is going to win a NC at Notre Dame. I like him, he has done many good things for the University, and he will continue to coach winning seasons. But, that is not good enough for Notre Dame. It's National Championship or bust, period.

 

He is in his fifth season, has all his players, and yet he continues to make excuses. All we hear this season is how young this team is. Sorry, Brian, I call BS. Every coach in college football faces the same challenges you face, and I would argue you have an advantage at Notre Dame. You have the financial backing, exceptional branding, unmatched history, and lore. You also have quality assistant coaches in place and your team is FILLED with athletes and playmakers.

 

He is accountable for the product of this machine. What we saw today was not a fluke. We saw it against Navy in 2010, Tulsa in 2010, South Florida in 2011, Arizona State last week, and now Northwestern today. He has beaten Rutgers and a so-so Miami squad in the post season. So what. You got your *** handed to you in the NC game, and lost to Florida State in the Champs Sports Bowl.

 

I am not arguing that BK is a bad coach. He's not. He is really, really good, but not great.

 

Notre Dame deserves a great coach.

 

Most colleges would kill for what he brings to Notre Dame. But this is NOT most colleges. This is the University of Notre Dame. I find it so frustrating how his teams get so close to reaching the top of the mountain, and then slip. This is the pattern.

 

I'm not saying the sky has fallen. I'm saying it was never there. It hasn't been there for decades. Kelly has shown us glimmers, but I now believe it was an illusion. I will continue to support this team, I will continue to support CBK, but I will now wait patiently for the next great coach.

 

Go ahead, tear me to pieces.

Well put!!!

He can't make Kyle hit his kicks, he can't make our holders catch snaps, he can't make players hold on yo the ball, he didn't give up neay 600 yards to Northwestern at home. He IS responsible for the decision to go for two and said that he "never considered" taking a knee. That is on him and that is inexcusable.

He should give Malik a chance, hell the guy you got now can't win you a game. Also, IMO he needs to get some different coaches.

Spot on OP.

Excellent write-up! Kind of at the point now of: "what do we do" as a University and Director stand point? Been an Irish fan all my life...I bleed it but I've lost so much excitement. Heart breaking...

The OP might be right on BK. He has consistently put up 8-9 win seasons with a magical year in 2012 stuck in there. That's not bad, and I will forever be grateful for him bringing the program back from being a national embarrassment and being consigned to being a ghost.

 

However there is a growing feeling in me that he isn't the next great ND coach. Next year will tell for sure, but I just don't know if he is the guy. ND fans are used to either a statue or an embarrassment from their head coach. Fortunately the good years have outnumbered the bad by plenty.

 

Back on point, perhaps Kelly is the next Elmer Layden i.e. he has led a good program, but not quite elite, as in Top 15 finish, 3 losses-is-a-bad-year type of program. ND can get there and perhaps Kelly is the bridge from the dark ages to return to glory. I've enjoyed being proud of being an ND fan again thanks to Kelly, but he may be more cut from the Mark Richt/Bo Pelini/Dabo Swinney cloth rather than Urban Meyer/Nick Saban/Les Miles/Pete Carroll/Chip Kelly

He can't make Kyle hit his kicks, he can't make our holders catch snaps, he can't make players hold on yo the ball, he didn't give up neay 600 yards to Northwestern at home. He IS responsible for the decision to go for two and said that he "never considered" taking a knee. That is on him and that is inexcusable.

 

He IS responsible for the entire damn program and how it performs. It's his job to get these guys to execute. Saban gets his guys to execute.Meyer, Fisher, Richt, Chip Kelly get their guys to execute. Great coaches don't pass the buck,

IndyIrishdad,

For the first time, I truly feel the same way. This was just an unacceptable loss....My wife looked at me and said, "Wow. You are really quiet about this loss."

I told her it just sucks that ND can't right the ship. And I don't think BK is going to do it either.

Personally, I would be happy with consistent 10 win seasons. But consistent 8 win seasons with empty excuses just doesn't cut it and that's what I think BK is going to bring.

He was hired to win NC's not champions, those are something he must recruit. He has not done that yet. Our players stink. It was just proven today. Reminds me when we lost to air force.

Welcome aboard.

Welcome aboard.

 

Why does it feel like Gilligan's Island?

If you haven't watched the post game interview.... give it a look. His arrogance is on full display. A couple times I thought he was going to say, "DON"T YOU QUESTION ME."

He can't make Kyle hit his kicks, he can't make our holders catch snaps, he can't make players hold on yo the ball, he didn't give up neay 600 yards to Northwestern at home. He IS responsible for the decision to go for two and said that he "never considered" taking a knee. That is on him and that is inexcusable.

 

As a coach I normally agree with this, but these mistakes keep happening.. The turnovers is killing the football team.. So is special teams ... So now it is on the coaching staff to fix this... At the end of the day it's on the head coach to fix the problems.. Since week 3 I havnt seen any fixes .. Same undisciplined team week after week.

If you haven't watched the post game interview.... give it a look. His arrogance is on full display. A couple times I thought he was going to say, "DON"T YOU QUESTION ME."

 

So I just finished watching it. After being pressed about his idiot decision to go for 2, and him turning bright red, he still wouldn't admit his mistake. He simply spun it.

 

Great Brian. Thanks for the display of humility when it was ABSOLUTELY necessary. F this guy.

He's a good catholic

 

he confesses his sins only to God

ND plays to it's competition. that has to be on the coach. the players play, but the coach gets the players to play.

Kelly is going to continue to stick with Golson because that's the type of coach he is, he wants the fast paced throwing QB. Golson continues to make mistakes, he continues to not protect the ball.

but regardless wheather or not ND can be elite, I can't see ND making the decision to fire Kelly. he keeps having winning seasons, including undefeated (lucky?) 2 years ago. I would imagine it's going to take a bad season for Kelly to be fired, and how can you be a fan to route for that? maybe if Kelly was to lose out the rest of the season against both Louisville and USC he would be on the hot seat?

I'm not in the fire Kelly camp. Yet. I just want, for once, for a little humility and candor from the guy. Maybe it's jut me, but i grew up, and the early part of my adult life was spent in, an environment where you admit your mistakes. Not because you want to get punished or anything, but true improvement only comes from looking at your positives and negatives.

On the surface, it appears that CBK refuses to admit he made some mistakes, and is stubbornly sticking to his guns. It's like he's saying, "I'm a genius. Look at my track record. I put together a perfect plan every week, put in the right players, and this is the best they can do. It's on them." It's ridiculous. It harkens back to the comments in 2010 about you can see the difference between my guys and the others. Talk about coming full circle.

I'm pulling for the guy.... honest. I really am, but I'm losing faith quickly after the last 2 colostomy bags that have been put on the field.

 

Go ahead, tear me to pieces.

 

you idiots bought into the message board fodder that cory and piratey and hawaii were selling AND NOW you are facing the reality of the situation.

 

we are young, lost a lot of guys to suspensions/NFL/injuries and were destined to win 9 games max for the season.

 

that is it, and thats all it every was going to be.

 

no coach was ever going to put these guys into the title game. none. the end.

Edited November 16, 201410 yr by rocket31

Notre Dame should be competing for national championships every year.

Notre Dame should be competing for national championships every year.

 

 

 

 

im assuming you are one of those delusionists who believe we should have a Heisman tropy winner every year as well, eh? this isnt the 1940s. we do not have access to Alabama talent.

 

The best we can hope considering the current landscape is a couple 9 win seasons sprinkled in with a few 11-12 wins seasons. That is what BK can give us when very few others can.

 

Ill be sure to bump these moronic threads next year when we are competing in the playoffs. :smash: