Posted November 11, 201410 yr Sanchez looked like a top tier qb! Unbelievable! Has he ever had a qb who didn't thrive in his system?
November 11, 201410 yr Chip Kelly or Gus Malzahn is who a lot of us thought we were getting in Brian Kelly. I like BK though. Hes doing his best with ND's restrictions. Its too bad cfb isnt a level playing field. Edited November 11, 201410 yr by Irish Storm
November 11, 201410 yr He really is. He took Oregon to 4 consecutive BCS games and now has Philly rolling. He took Philly to the playoffs his 1st year there and now has them a top the division at 7-2. Dude is a fantastic coach. Very unique and hands on also as he even incorporates players' sleep patterns and nutrition. Philly is lucky to have him.
November 11, 201410 yr chip kelly ever won any titles? no, but he never had a lower division or lower-tiered job. As head man at UO, never had a non-BCS bowl season. As a pro coach never missed the playoffs (likely two years) that adds up to 5 (soon to be 6) seasons that have lead to great post-season opportunites...every season as a head man. Not too shabby at all I'd say!
November 12, 201410 yr nice to see sanchez succeed Love ya NY but I hope mark and chip fail! Mark=sc guy, chip oregon guy both teams I hate.
November 12, 201410 yr Love ya NY but I hope mark and chip fail! Mark=sc guy, chip oregon guy both teams I hate. Amen! And why is this in Open? I'll move it to General.
November 12, 201410 yr Amen! And why is this in Open? I'll move it to General. An interesting thing I heard an announcer say once is that great coaches adjust their system so players rise up and can succeed using their strengths. I've always seen that in chip. I've always been concerned with "qbs" never quite having Kelly's system or still not getting the offense. Anyone else have thoughts on this.
November 12, 201410 yr Amen! And why is this in Open? I'll move it to General. Think it was in open because it has zero to do with Notre Dame football...
November 12, 201410 yr An interesting thing I heard an announcer say once is that great coaches adjust their system so players rise up and can succeed using their strengths. I've always seen that in chip. I've always been concerned with "qbs" never quite having Kelly's system or still not getting the offense. Anyone else have thoughts on this. I'm not sure i agree. I've never really seen Chip adjust his system that much. His success is on running a great scheme that is still very novel. It's kind of like a Joe Gibbs and his power scheme. Certainly a legit coach and proved himself as a winner but I'd have him a decided rung below Belicheck, Vermeil, Walsh, etc.. The way I see it, you could put Peyton in that system and win a lot of games but Peyton would have to fit his system and not the other way around. The Sanchez that I saw on Sunday was the same Sanchez with the only difference being not having the anchor of that awful Jets franchise pulling him down. He missed a fair share of receivers, was super athletic, was able to use his solid arm to make some throws and benefited from a scheme that got him a lot of easy throws. No shot at either of them, I just don't think he's as much a quarterback whisperer as, say, Sean Peyton.
November 12, 201410 yr Your right Chip Kelly is a great coach but Mark Sanchez was never a bad player. Look who he had at New York, at times his receiving core I think was worse than many college teams receiving cores (ND included) and just no help for the guy. Vick can't succeed, Geno can't, Mark couldn't..... they can go get another high draft pick but he won't succeed unless they upgrade the talent around him. He wasn't amazing, he was good, efficient and better than teams like Houston and the Bills have who could potentially grab him next year. Let's not forget that o-ine with Mathis back was unreal! He had all day to throw and any quarterback will succeed with that.
November 12, 201410 yr chip kelly ever won any titles? Is this meant to qualify the sentiment about him?
November 12, 201410 yr He won the PAC-10 title three times... 46-7 with a Rose Bowl win, a Fiesta Bowl Win and an NC and Rose Bowl loss is decent
November 12, 201410 yr Well just remember that there were plenty of people on this board saying that Miss St isn't a good team, TCU isn't good, etc etc etc. Shocking how many people will line up around here to just trash anyone and everyone that isn't Notre Dame related. On the other side of the coin, its also amazing how many people will line up to trash BK and Golson, etc as if they can't remember Charlie Weis and Tommy Rees. tl;dr: no one is ever impressed on the internet
November 12, 201410 yr Love ya NY but I hope mark and chip fail! Mark=sc guy, chip oregon guy both teams I hate. This. I am still trying to resolve my feelings about Reggie Bush saying nice things about Theo Riddick and Michael Floyd piling up stats with Carson Palmer.
November 12, 201410 yr Well just remember that there were plenty of people on this board saying that Miss St isn't a good team, TCU isn't good, etc etc etc. Shocking how many people will line up around here to just trash anyone and everyone that isn't Notre Dame related. On the other side of the coin, its also amazing how many people will line up to trash BK and Golson, etc as if they can't remember Charlie Weis and Tommy Rees. tl;dr: no one is ever impressed on the internet The bolded is not true, there are parts of the internet that impress me! Take a guess.
November 12, 201410 yr Well just remember that there were plenty of people on this board saying that Miss St isn't a good team, TCU isn't good, etc etc etc. Shocking how many people will line up around here to just trash anyone and everyone that isn't Notre Dame related. On the other side of the coin, its also amazing how many people will line up to trash BK and Golson, etc as if they can't remember Charlie Weis and Tommy Rees. tl;dr: no one is ever impressed on the internet For the record, i'm not trashing him (not that you were pointing to me specifically). I just want to be clear that I view him in the Harbaugh camp which is still a very good camp. I just think that he is a bit more tied to his system than some of the greats. He's done a great job of making that system flexible and maintaining productivity, but it's still a model that he depends upon. I certainly think more of his abilities than an Urban Meyer but would probably have a good 5-10 coaches ahead of him on my list (kelly wouldn't be one of them and i sure like kelly a good bit). Bill B Saban Carrol Trestman (juuuuuuust kidding ; ) Payton Andy Reid Harbaugh that actually won the SB then i start getting into Chip's territory. that's pretty good spot, just want to clarify that i think he's a step below the big kahunas.
Sanchez looked like a top tier qb! Unbelievable! Has he ever had a qb who didn't thrive in his system?