Saw practically the entire game last night.

UCLA looks to be the real deal with a lot of speed on both sides of the ball. And our boy Eddie V comes in for their goal line offense. He apparently has scored a TD both running and receiving this year. I remember the kid played HS baseball so he's obviously more than a big body.

 

ASU ... not so much. They are somewhat explosive on offense and their backup QB has a hell of an arm. I'd bet they gained >500 yards. A bit slow on D. And surprisingly for a Todd Graham team they're VERY undisciplined. Lots of bad penalties, LOTS of drops on well thrown balls, some terrible Rees-esque INTs, and they gave up TDs in all 3 phases of the game -pick 6 on O, ST and of course D. They tackle terribly and had one play that was reminiscent of last year when about 5 ND guys crashed into each other and went down trying to tackle Gallon from UM while Gallon romped away into the end zone untouched. Almost the exact same play last night.

 

ND should win that matchup, not necessarily easily. But with Kelly back it has the makings of a shootout.

Edited September 26, 201410 yr by midwestguy

Saw practically the entire game last night.

UCLA looks to be the real deal with a lot of speed on both sides of the ball. And our boy Eddie V comes in for their goal line offense. He apparently has scored a TD both running and receiving this year. I remember the kid played HS baseball so he's obviously more than a big body.

 

ASU ... not so much. They are somewhat explosive on offense and their backup QB has a hell of an arm. I'd bet they gained >500 yards. A bit slow on D. And surprisingly for a Todd Graham team they're VERY undisciplined. Lots of bad penalties, LOTS of drops on well thrown balls, some terrible Rees-esque INTs, and they gave up TDs in all 3 phases of the game -pick 6 on O, ST and of course D. They tackle terribly and had one play that was reminiscent of last year when about 5 ND guys crashed into each other and went down trying to tackle Gallon from UM while the Gallon romped away into the end zone untouched. Almost the exact same play last night.

 

ND should win that matchup, not necessarily easily. But with Kelly back it has the makings of a shootout.

 

They are playing a boat load of freshmen on defense. At times they get wiped out by blockers and the lanes look a mile wide. our offense should go nuts. They will score though, but will make mistakes.

I watched the whole game as well, and came away with a different view of the matchup with ASU. Though they lost, I still thought their offense was a bad matchup for ND. I do not think ND is good enough on offense (right now) to win a shootout, and I think the ASU I saw last night would win against the ND team I have seen in the first 3 games going away.

Though they lost, I still thought their offense was a bad matchup for ND.

 

This same exact thing was said last year.

 

Our offense is light year's better than last year. If they get the running game figured out, we can win a shootout against most teams.

 

Honestly, I think it will depend if ASU get's their starting QB back.

 

Remember this is the same UCLA team that scored 7 POINTS on offense on a weak Virginia team and 20 on a bad Texas team.

This same exact thing was said last year.

 

Our offense is light year's better than last year. If they get the running game figured out, we can win a shootout against most teams.

 

Honestly, I think it will depend if ASU get's their starting QB back.

 

Remember this is the same UCLA team that scored 7 POINTS on offense on a weak Virginia team and 20 on a bad Texas team.

 

Agree. ASU's D was miserable. Yes, they're young. But they'll still be young in a month. And they don't have near the athletes on D that ND does. Also, their STs were loaded with clowns; big, slow white guys lunging to close gaps at the last minute, lunging at the ball carrier and missing.

 

BTW, ASU's QB (Kelly) is almost certain to be back then.

Edited September 26, 201410 yr by midwestguy

Didn't stay up for the fourth quarter because the game was pretty much over...Was Mora jr really still slinging the ball in the fourth quarter of a 3 score game? Trying to get those style points I guess...

 

But 69 pass attempts for a QB making his first start? And looking at the passer rating and completion percentage of QBs facing UCLA's defense this year...woof. No way does this team make it through the Pac12 undefeated...

 

What's hilarious is UCLA ran 58 total plays from scrimage...ASU threw the ball the aforementioned 69 times and ran it another 36. They almost doubled the plays...and only scored 27 points. Laughable.

Didn't stay up for the fourth quarter because the game was pretty much over...Was Mora jr really still slinging the ball in the fourth quarter of a 3 score game? Trying to get those style points I guess...

 

But 69 pass attempts for a QB making his first start? And looking at the passer rating and completion percentage of QBs facing UCLA's defense this year...woof. No way does this team make it through the Pac12 undefeated...

 

What's hilarious is UCLA ran 58 total plays from scrimage...ASU threw the ball the aforementioned 69 times and ran it another 36. They almost doubled the plays...and only scored 27 points. Laughable.

 

Asu had nearly 600 yds of offense.. But turnovers and their non existent defense cost them the game.. Golson is a much better player than Hundley imo and will torch them.. Sure they might get Taylor kelly back but we have the athletes to match up with them.. I feel much better about this game after what I saw last night..

 

Also ucla looked terrible on defense.. Undisciplined and poor tackling.. Kendricks seems to be the only player with his head on straight.. Myles plays on all instincs and too often gets caught out of position..

 

One more thing.. Mora sucks

This same exact thing was said last year.

 

Our offense is light year's better than last year. If they get the running game figured out, we can win a shootout against most teams.

 

Honestly, I think it will depend if ASU get's their starting QB back.

 

Remember this is the same UCLA team that scored 7 POINTS on offense on a weak Virginia team and 20 on a bad Texas team.

 

That Virginia team is better than you think... Especially against the spread... VIRGINIA IS FOR COVERS!

That Virginia team is better than you think... Especially against the spread... VIRGINIA IS FOR COVERS!

 

Maybe, but 7 POINTS?

Maybe, but 7 POINTS?

 

Oh yeah... I'm not saying UCLA is dominant. But Wahoos do have a pulse

I watched the whole game as well, and came away with a different view of the matchup with ASU. Though they lost, I still thought their offense was a bad matchup for ND. I do not think ND is good enough on offense (right now) to win a shootout, and I think the ASU I saw last night would win against the ND team I have seen in the first 3 games going away.

 

Did you watch the same game I did?

Didn't stay up for the fourth quarter because the game was pretty much over...Was Mora jr really still slinging the ball in the fourth quarter of a 3 score game? Trying to get those style points I guess...

 

But 69 pass attempts for a QB making his first start? And looking at the passer rating and completion percentage of QBs facing UCLA's defense this year...woof. No way does this team make it through the Pac12 undefeated...

 

What's hilarious is UCLA ran 58 total plays from scrimage...ASU threw the ball the aforementioned 69 times and ran it another 36. They almost doubled the plays...and only scored 27 points. Laughable.

 

Their QB killed them with INTs and bad passes at key times.

 

One particular instance:

End of 1st half; score 20-17 and ASU is driving. They had blown all their time outs (Graham went purple face on the last one) but still had plenty of time left to put it in the end zone or at worst kick a FG and go in tied 20-20.

 

In that situation the QB just HAS TO KNOW that if someone isn't wide open, throw it away. Instead he went all Rees and threw a terrible pick, UCLA returned it 90 yards for a TD. So instead of being tied 20-20, they go into the locker room down 27-17. I think it was 1st down too, another Tommy specialty.

 

No way ND loses to ASU unless they have a terrible, self inflicted bad game.

Their QB killed them with INTs and bad passes at key times.

 

One particular instance:

End of 1st half; score 20-17 and ASU is driving. They had blown all their time outs (Graham went purple face on the last one) but still had plenty of time left to put it in the end zone or at worst kick a FG and go in tied 20-20.

 

In that situation the QB just HAS TO KNOW that if someone isn't wide open, throw it away. Instead he went all Rees and threw a terrible pick, UCLA returned it 90 yards for a TD. So instead of being tied 20-20, they go into the locker room down 27-17. I think it was 1st down too, another Tommy specialty.

 

No way ND loses to ASU unless they have a terrible, self inflicted bad game.

 

 

 

I was thinking the exact same thing when I was watching it.

 

Thank God No More Tommy

I was thinking the exact same thing when I was watching it.

 

Thank God No More Tommy

 

We have a bye week after the FSU game. I might put together a mix tape for the Youtubes of every single interception he's thrown in his soul crushing career. From Tulsa to Stanford.

We have a bye week after the FSU game. I might put together a mix tape for the Youtubes of every single interception he's thrown in his soul crushing career. From Tulsa to Stanford.

 

Tommy: The blog gift that won't die.

I'd rank these as his all time worst, not necessarily in this order:

 

FSU, in that bowl game. Losing 18-14, plenty of time, ball on FSU 20, and he throws it up for grabs to Goodman who was never close to being open. ON FIRST DOWN.

 

Stanford: Again, moving the ball nicely in an attempt to go ahead late in the game. Tries to throw a bomb to Fuller. Naturally he throws it late and short and it's the easiest pick the DB will ever see. ON FIRST DOWN.

 

Michigan, 2013: Take your pick, no pun intended. Do you prefer the pick at the end of the 1st half - ON FIRST DOWN - when they were driving for a possible score? Or do you prefer the one at the end of the game when they were driving - ON FIRST DOWN - and still had a chance to get the ball back and score again?

 

Oklahoma/Pittsburgh: Lumped together because they were both the same time of throws: Long, lazy lobs over the middle, easily picked off by one of the 3 defenders in a position to do so.

 

Tulsa: A beauty. Play should never have been called, but he had to know to throw it away if Floyd wasn't wide open. Then ND kicks a FG and win. He wasn't open. Not even close. Pick. Game over.

 

Honorable mention: The whiffed throw against UM 2011 as they were going in for the final nail in the coffin (technically a fumble, not a pick) and any of the 4 INTs he threw vs USC in 2010.

 

Other point is this: For a QB who everyone always talked about as being so f**king smart, he sure made a LOT of bad decisions.

Tommy: The blog gift that won't die.

I'd rank these as his all time worst, not necessarily in this order:

 

FSU, in that bowl game. Losing 18-14, plenty of time, ball on FSU 20, and he throws it up for grabs to Goodman who was never close to being open. ON FIRST DOWN.

 

Stanford: Again, moving the ball nicely in an attempt to go ahead late in the game. Tries to throw a bomb to Fuller. Naturally he throws it late and short and it's the easiest pick the DB will ever see. ON FIRST DOWN.

 

Michigan, 2013: Take your pick, no pun intended. Do you prefer the pick at the end of the 1st half - ON FIRST DOWN - when they were driving for a possible score? Or do you prefer the one at the end of the game when they were driving - ON FIRST DOWN - and still had a chance to get the ball back and score again?

 

Oklahoma/Pittsburgh: Lumped together because they were both the same time of throws: Long, lazy lobs over the middle, easily picked off by one of the 3 defenders in a position to do so.

 

Tulsa: A beauty. Play should never have been called, but he had to know to throw it away if Floyd wasn't wide open. Then ND kicks a FG and win. He wasn't open. Not even close. Pick. Game over.

 

Honorable mention: The whiffed throw against UM 2011 as they were going in for the final nail in the coffin (technically a fumble, not a pick) and any of the 4 INTs he threw vs USC in 2010.

 

Other point is this: For a QB who everyone always talked about as being so f**king smart, he sure made a LOT of bad decisions.

 

Definitely a classic while not technically a pick.

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs2/3093758_o.gif

 

 

His expression is priceless:

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/3109531/13.08.26-Rees_Horror.jpg

 

If Rocket was to make this list...It would be Tommy throwing that pick in the end zone against Tulsa. Over. And Over. And Over. I'm pretty sure he had to spend time in therapy after having to drive home to Canada after that game

Definitely a classic while not technically a pick.

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs2/3093758_o.gif

 

 

His expression is priceless:

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/3109531/13.08.26-Rees_Horror.jpg

 

If Rocket was to make this list...It would be Tommy throwing that pick in the end zone against Tulsa. Over. And Over. And Over. I'm pretty sure he had to spend time in therapy after having to drive home to Canada after that game

 

Put that one on BK. If I recall, they only needed a FG to win, and Ruffer was automatic at the time. Putting the ball in the air made no sense. IMO, Syracuse in '08, UCONN in '09 and Tulsa in '10 are the worst losses at ND in the last 30 years. Syracuse possibly the worst loss of all time.

I'm surprised anyone thinks UCLA is the "real deal." They almost lost to UVA with only one offensive touchdown. Then, they almost lost to Memphis who hung a lot of points on them. If UCLA looked like the "real deal," ASU must be that bad.

I'm surprised anyone thinks UCLA is the "real deal." They almost lost to UVA with only one offensive touchdown. Then, they almost lost to Memphis who hung a lot of points on them. If UCLA looked like the "real deal," ASU must be that bad.

 

Understand the point. Lots of talent on the O side of the ball

They might not be top 4 material, but they aren't bums. Capable of beating ND. Not saying they will, but they can

Edited September 27, 201410 yr by midwestguy

UCLA is a good team, they have just had a slow start. I would consider them still a threat for the PAC12 title and outside shot of getting into the playoffs.

Put that one on BK. If I recall, they only needed a FG to win, and Ruffer was automatic at the time. Putting the ball in the air made no sense. IMO, Syracuse in '08, UCONN in '09 and Tulsa in '10 are the worst losses at ND in the last 30 years. Syracuse possibly the worst loss of all time.

 

Agree, shouldn't have called a pass there.

But I'm SURE the instructions were "if he's not open, throw it in the 3rd row".

And besides, Tommy defenders said for 4 years how smart he is. This was DUMB. And he was doing the same thing when he was a senior.

 

Good riddance.