VCDomer Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 (edited) Assuming that EG comes back next year, and Hundley stays for another year. Do they both contend for the Heisman? Are their teams set up for them to make a run for it. Johnny mugshots is gone to NFL, McCarron gone, Murray gone, Boyd, Mettenberger, Bridgewater gone. Aren't EG and BH the same kind of QB? Edited October 26, 2013 by VCDomer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NDBadaBing Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 Not trying to be a jerk but Hundley is a 6-4 230 pound former 4 star who was the second ranked QB in his recruiting class and is destined to be a first-round NFL pick Everett is a 6-foot, buck 80 former three star who needs everything to break right to get NFL love. Everett has a lot of ground to make up, is what I am saying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VCDomer Posted October 26, 2013 Author Share Posted October 26, 2013 (edited) Not trying to be a jerk but Hundley is a 6-4 230 pound former 4 star who was the second ranked QB in his recruiting class and is destined to be a first-round NFL pick Everett is a 6-foot, buck 80 former three star who needs everything to break right to get NFL love. Everett has a lot of ground to make up, is what I am saying. Well.. I don't think I was getting into whether one was more capable of getting drafted into the NFL or the likelihood of success once they get there. But, since you brought it up..... I believe you are saying that the tangible physical differences and recruiting stars mean something as it relates to the likelihood that they succeed in college? And then in getting drafted in the NFL? Where does player development and coaching factor into that as it relates to the comparison of Hundley and Golson and their success? I am curious because many on DD think EG is Heisman quality. Edited October 26, 2013 by VCDomer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShamrockShapedTurds Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 I just don't see how there can be any talk of Golson and the Heisman. He had a decent freshman season and then was suspended for his second season. Nobody has any real idea how he is going to look coming into Spring football and whether or not he actually has the ability to overcome a lost season to compete consistently on the D1 level. Yet, people want to talk about his chances of winning a Heisman? That is seriously putting the cart before the horse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgandonor Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 How about Golson learning how to spell Heisman then we will go from there...he doesn't get off that easy. He needs to excel in the classroom. No he has no chance of even being in the top 5 for the Heisman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NDBadaBing Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 (edited) Well.. I don't think I was getting into whether one was more capable of getting drafted into the NFL or the likelihood of success once they get there. But, since you brought it up..... I believe you are saying that the tangible physical differences and recruiting stars mean something as it relates to the likelihood that they succeed in college? And then in getting drafted in the NFL? Where does player development and coaching factor into that as it relates to the comparison of Hundley and Golson and their success? I am curious because many on DD think EG is Heisman quality. This is the first I've seen Golson and Heisman mentioned in the same sentence. No doubt I felt he'd make significant strides thîs year but it wasn't gonna be that kind of party and I'd be shocked if it was that kind of part next year. He's got a long way to go to get to that point and frankly, Hundley is just the better player on all levels. Not saying EG can't get there. But man, Hundley is pretty darned good Edited October 26, 2013 by NDBadaBing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NDhoosier Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 Not trying to be a jerk but Hundley is a 6-4 230 pound former 4 star who was the second ranked QB in his recruiting class and is destined to be a first-round NFL pick Everett is a 6-foot, buck 80 former three star who needs everything to break right to get NFL love. Everett has a lot of ground to make up, is what I am saying. Winning the Heisman and making the NFL is not the same thing. Tebow was a failure in the NFL Manziel will probably be a failure in the NFL Just because someone is not likely to make the NFL, doesnt mean the Heisman is out of reach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirodomer Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 Famous Jameis has this trophy wrapped already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NDBadaBing Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 Winning the Heisman and making the NFL is not the same thing. Tebow was a failure in the NFL Manziel will probably be a failure in the NFL Just because someone is not likely to make the NFL, doesnt mean the Heisman is out of reach. I totally get that but I just don't see it happening. Also the OP said he thought EG and Hundley were similar QB's and that just isn't accurate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VCDomer Posted October 26, 2013 Author Share Posted October 26, 2013 I totally get that but I just don't see it happening. Also the OP said he thought EG and Hundley were similar QB's and that just isn't accurate. Actually I do not think EG and BH have the same skills. It was a rhetorical question. I raised the question based on a circumstance that may exist next year with them and that I have heard several DD posters state they though EG would be competing for the Heisman and this year had he not shot himself in the foot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fifth Horseman Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 Famous Jameis has this trophy wrapped already. I pretty much agree. Golson and Hundley are both good, but Jameis Winston is gonna be hard to beat. Plus, I have an inkling that one of Mariota, Bridgewater, and Manziel will return. My money is on Mariota. If that's the case, the deck is stacked against either of them. Also, I'll make a bold prediction and state that I think Stanford's QB will compete for the Heisman as well as another player that none of us are currently talking about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VCDomer Posted October 26, 2013 Author Share Posted October 26, 2013 I pretty much agree. Golson and Hundley are both good, but Jameis Winston is gonna be hard to beat. Plus, I have an inkling that one of Mariota, Bridgewater, and Manziel will return. My money is on Mariota. If that's the case, the deck is stacked against either of them. Also, I'll make a bold prediction and state that I think Stanford's QB will compete for the Heisman as well as another player that none of us are currently talking about. Hogan? Wow that is bold! He would be a hero. I lofted it up there.............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fifth Horseman Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 Hogan? Wow that is bold! He would be a hero. I lofted it up there.............. +1 Well done, sir. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NDNorm Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 Assuming all is good for his return..... 1. He was a first-yr QB who led his team to an undefeated season and a spot in the NC game. Even though that theoretically doesn't matter for the season at hand, it's still there. 2. He'll have offensive weapons galore at his side. 3. He's the QB at Notre Dame. If he were to put up #'s, especially against that seemingly tough sked next year, Heisman love would deservedly come and he'd be right there in the mix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pregame Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 Assuming all is good for his return..... 1. He was a first-yr QB who led his team to an undefeated season and a spot in the NC game. Even though that theoretically doesn't matter for the season at hand, it's still there. 2. He'll have offensive weapons galore at his side. 3. He's the QB at Notre Dame. If he were to put up #'s, especially against that seemingly tough sked next year, Heisman love would deservedly come and he'd be right there in the mix. Doubt the coaches will cut Golson loose often enough for him to put up Heisman like #s. Not to mention, Golson just isn't as good as Mariota, JFF, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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