piratey Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 Are you stating the running game has been dreadful this year as well? What is the problem with utilizing multiple RB's if all of them have talent? This is an entirely different argument you are waging now. There are plenty of teams in CFB who do the same thing. Why do we need to give ALL the carries to one RB? There are multiple advantages to doing what COACH has done. I'm sure you would do a much better job than Brian, but let's talk about a few reasons WHY he is doing the right thing. 1. Use all the talent to keep fresh legs on the field. 2. Use all the talent to ensure all of them are ready to play if one goes down. 3. Use all the talent to give the defense different looks. I don't know. I think I understand where you guys are coming from too. If it's not broken don't fix it, and if a guy is in a rhythm, let him roll. Thoughts? Oh? Ok. So the 96th ranked rushing offense in the country proves the staff is doing a masterful job? It's been an awful job and there is no measurable metric to support anything to the contrary. There are no college teams(sans the air spread teams) in the country that don't have a RB on the roster that doesn't average at least 12 rushes a game. Other than us. And the 96th ranked rushing offense reflects that. You know why GA3 tends to dance? Because he thinks every rush might be his last in the drive unless he breaks a big run. There is no security in taking a short gain, it's boom or bust with this approach Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDIrishFan Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 O You know why GA3 tends to dance? Because he thinks every rush might be his last in the drive unless he breaks a big run. There is no security in taking a short gain, it's boom or bust with this approach How about boom or bench, eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NDBadaBing Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 You know why GA3 tends to dance? Because he thinks every rush might be his last in the drive unless he breaks a big run. There is no security in taking a short gain, it's boom or bust with this approach Why doesn't Cam dance, then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davislove Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 Why doesn't Cam dance, then? Because it would probably look like this http://www.ohlokomeu.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/kids-dancing-to-crazy-frog-o.gif Put me on team "we need a much better running game". I wonder if the rb/slot thing is throwing off Alfords teaching? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indyirishdad Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 You know why GA3 tends to dance? Because he thinks every rush might be his last in the drive unless he breaks a big run. There is no security in taking a short gain, it's boom or bust with this approach You do understand how stupid this statement is don't you. IF GAIII honestly believed and played this way, then he would be telling his entire team and coaches to F off because he would be thinking only of himself. I can't imagine YOU would want such a selfish player starting on the team you love Piratey. :crazy: BTW, ND has the 88th ranked rushing offense, not 96th. Army is #1 if you're taking notes. Miami has the 114th ranked rushing offense and they are ranked #7 in the AP top 25. WTF is your point? We all know why the offense is sputtering this year but we can save the TR discussions for another thread. Here is an interesting comparison Piratey: Notre Dame has passed 235 x's for 1669 yds @ 126.7 rating. They have rushed 229 x's for 947 yds and 4 TD's Alabama has passed 206 x's for 1741 yds @ 162.6 rating. They have rushed 247 x's for 1482 yds and 16 TD's That is a BIG difference, yes? I truly believe if we have Golson this year, our numbers look more like Bama's, maybe a bit better in either column and you would not be upset. TR is killing our offense, which DESTROYS our rushing stats. Regardless if I am right or wrong, what does having the 88th ranked rushing team have to do with your single RB argument? Bama uses (2) RB's in Yeldon and Drake, and even though Drake has 1/2 the carries, he has a much better YPC average and the same # of TD's. Is Saban a bad coach as well? Is he handling the RB situation dreadfully as well? Drake is clearly the better RB based on pure stats, right? ATTITUDE and HEART are the missing ingredients in your argument IMHO. These are two attributes that Cam OBVIOUSLY brings to the game and I believe he is rewarded for it. I don't know much about GAIII's attitude because I haven't SEEN the fire I see in Cam. I am not saying he doesn't have those attributes, but you would be hard pressed to find anybody who would argue who our toughest, heartiest RB currently is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDIrishFan Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 Because it would probably look like this http://www.ohlokomeu.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/kids-dancing-to-crazy-frog-o.gif Put me on team "we need a much better running game". I wonder if the rb/slot thing is throwing off Alfords teaching? http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/racist1.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockets Revenge Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 You do understand how stupid this statement is don't you. IF GAIII honestly believed and played this way, then he would be telling his entire team and coaches to F off because he would be thinking only of himself. I can't imagine YOU would want such a selfish player starting on the team you love Piratey. :crazy: BTW, ND has the 88th ranked rushing offense, not 96th. Army is #1 if you're taking notes. Miami has the 114th ranked rushing offense and they are ranked #7 in the AP top 25. WTF is your point? We all know why the offense is sputtering this year but we can save the TR discussions for another thread. Here is an interesting comparison Piratey: Notre Dame has passed 235 x's for 1669 yds @ 126.7 rating. They have rushed 229 x's for 947 yds and 4 TD's Alabama has passed 206 x's for 1741 yds @ 162.6 rating. They have rushed 247 x's for 1482 yds and 16 TD's That is a BIG difference, yes? I truly believe if we have Golson this year, our numbers look more like Bama's, maybe a bit better in either column and you would not be upset. TR is killing our offense, which DESTROYS our rushing stats. Regardless if I am right or wrong, what does having the 88th ranked rushing team have to do with your single RB argument? Bama uses (2) RB's in Yeldon and Drake, and even though Drake has 1/2 the carries, he has a much better YPC average and the same # of TD's. Is Saban a bad coach as well? Is he handling the RB situation dreadfully as well? Drake is clearly the better RB based on pure stats, right? ATTITUDE and HEART are the missing ingredients in your argument IMHO. These are two attributes that Cam OBVIOUSLY brings to the game and I believe he is rewarded for it. I don't know much about GAIII's attitude because I haven't SEEN the fire I see in Cam. I am not saying he doesn't have those attributes, but you would be hard pressed to find anybody who would argue who our toughest, heartiest RB currently is. http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/321/517/ab0.jpg Are you really comparing Cam to Yeldon & Drake? Are you saying Bama's better running game is due to McCarron?? We get it!! You have a man-crush on Cam. After, the recent most-photogenic picture came out who could blame you?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piratey Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 (edited) You do understand how stupid this statement is don't you. IF GAIII honestly believed and played this way, then he would be telling his entire team and coaches to F off because he would be thinking only of himself. I can't imagine YOU would want such a selfish player starting on the team you love Piratey. :crazy: BTW, ND has the 88th ranked rushing offense, not 96th. Army is #1 if you're taking notes. Miami has the 114th ranked rushing offense and they are ranked #7 in the AP top 25. WTF is your point? We all know why the offense is sputtering this year but we can save the TR discussions for another thread. Here is an interesting comparison Piratey: Notre Dame has passed 235 x's for 1669 yds @ 126.7 rating. They have rushed 229 x's for 947 yds and 4 TD's Alabama has passed 206 x's for 1741 yds @ 162.6 rating. They have rushed 247 x's for 1482 yds and 16 TD's That is a BIG difference, yes? I truly believe if we have Golson this year, our numbers look more like Bama's, maybe a bit better in either column and you would not be upset. TR is killing our offense, which DESTROYS our rushing stats. Regardless if I am right or wrong, what does having the 88th ranked rushing team have to do with your single RB argument? Bama uses (2) RB's in Yeldon and Drake, and even though Drake has 1/2 the carries, he has a much better YPC average and the same # of TD's. Is Saban a bad coach as well? Is he handling the RB situation dreadfully as well? Drake is clearly the better RB based on pure stats, right? ATTITUDE and HEART are the missing ingredients in your argument IMHO. These are two attributes that Cam OBVIOUSLY brings to the game and I believe he is rewarded for it. I don't know much about GAIII's attitude because I haven't SEEN the fire I see in Cam. I am not saying he doesn't have those attributes, but you would be hard pressed to find anybody who would argue who our toughest, heartiest RB currently is. No, they are 96th, because teams have played fewer games you cannot go based on overall rushing yards. 135.86ypg, which after last night, puts us in 97th place. And as for "selfish"? That's an absurd notion. The kid wants to be the back. Every elite athlete, in all major sports is "selfish." No starting pitcher who is dominating a game wants to come out after the 7th inning.(See Justin Verlander) Adrian Peterson wants 30 carries a game. Michael Jordan wanted the last shot. And let's punch a hole in your Rees theory shall we? In 2011, through 7 games: 275 passes for 1867yds which is 266.7ypg 209 Rushes for 1204yds which is 172ypg Wood rushed 118 times in that stretch, 16.85carries per game Gray rushed 51 times in that stretch, 7.28carries per game There was a primary RB and a change of pace back. None of this, Okay George you rush this play and then the next play is Cam's turn and then Amir gets his touch for the quarter. My "argument" has never been we need to go 1980s pro-style single RB. It's that you need to have a primary back. This one guy gets a majority this week and the next guy gets a majority the week after needs to end. Keep in mind that Air Force is the 112th ranked rushing defense in the nation, so what we see this week, will be fools gold to an extent... Edited October 25, 2013 by piratey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indyirishdad Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/321/517/ab0.jpg Are you really comparing Cam to Yeldon & Drake? Are you saying Bama's better running game is due to McCarron?? We get it!! You have a man-crush on Cam. After, the recent most-photogenic picture came out who could blame you?? This is the response when you no longer have an argument. :love: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indyirishdad Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 No, they are 96th, because teams have played fewer games you cannot go based on overall rushing yards. 135.86ypg, which after last night, puts us in 97th place. And as for "selfish"? That's an absurd notion. The kid wants to be the back. Every elite athlete, in all major sports is "selfish." No starting pitcher who is dominating a game wants to come out after the 7th inning.(See Justin Verlander) Adrian Peterson wants 30 carries a game. Michael Jordan wanted the last shot. And let's punch a hole in your Rees theory shall we? In 2011, through 7 games: 275 passes for 1867yds which is 266.7ypg 209 Rushes for 1204yds which is 172ypg Wood rushed 118 times in that stretch, 16.85carries per game Gray rushed 51 times in that stretch, 7.28carries per game There was a primary RB and a change of pace back. None of this, Okay George you rush this play and then the next play is Cam's turn and then Amir gets his touch for the quarter. My "argument" has never been we need to go 1980s pro-style single RB. It's that you need to have a primary back. This one guy gets a majority this week and the next guy gets a majority the week after needs to end. Keep in mind that Air Force is the 112th ranked rushing defense in the nation, so what we see this week, will be fools gold to an extent... Great post. I have a question. How was Tommy's QB rating in 2011? Also, how do the numbers compare from Tommy's best year and Golson's 12-0 season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockets Revenge Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 This is the response when you no longer have an argument. :love: NO...it is the response when you get wound too tight in a discussion forum and go FULL RETARD!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piratey Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 Great post. I have a question. How was Tommy's QB rating in 2011? Also, how do the numbers compare from Tommy's best year and Golson's 12-0 season? On the season? 133.37. Through 7 games? 136.48(I just did an average, I don't know the math behind the actual numbers.) This season he is at 132.12. He had 7 picks through 7 games in 2011 and 6 picks through 7 this season. As far as Golson, on the season he was 131.02 passer rating. Through 7 games(Ii have to skip the BYU game and pick up the OU game) 112.92 passer rating. The average is obviously being destroyed by the 19 passer rating game against Michigan, still isn't good though. As for rushing in those 7 games Golson played in: Theo had 99 rushes for 382yds and 14.14 rushes per game Wood had 54 rushes for 352 and 10.8 rushes per game(remember that he sat out first two of the season for Marijuana) Golson had 53 rushes for 145, that includes sack numbers FYI And George was only averaging 5 carries to that point and got most of his carries were in garbage time against Miami and Navy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgandonor Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 NO...it is the response when you get wound too tight in a discussion forum and go FULL RETARD!! Yeah we wouldn't want any one to be Semi retarded... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stdntDrvr Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 NO...it is the response when you get wound too tight in a discussion forum and go FULL RETARD!! you NEVER go full retard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piratey Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 Yeah we wouldn't want any one to be Semi retarded... You'd win an Oscar if you did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piratey Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 you NEVER go full retard. http://24.media.tumblr.com/1549ef9f321d6a245b4abec88e25b121/tumblr_moz0rx8lzE1sqv808o1_250.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indyirishdad Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 NO...it is the response when you get wound too tight in a discussion forum and go FULL RETARD!! Who's the one throwing out names big boy? Anger management is not a step down from manhood. Think of it as a gift. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indyirishdad Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 On the season? 133.37. Through 7 games? 136.48(I just did an average, I don't know the math behind the actual numbers.) This season he is at 132.12. He had 7 picks through 7 games in 2011 and 6 picks through 7 this season. As far as Golson, on the season he was 131.02 passer rating. Through 7 games(Ii have to skip the BYU game and pick up the OU game) 112.92 passer rating. The average is obviously being destroyed by the 19 passer rating game against Michigan, still isn't good though. As for rushing in those 7 games Golson played in: Theo had 99 rushes for 382yds and 14.14 rushes per game Wood had 54 rushes for 352 and 10.8 rushes per game(remember that he sat out first two of the season for Marijuana) Golson had 53 rushes for 145, that includes sack numbers FYI And George was only averaging 5 carries to that point and got most of his carries were in garbage time against Miami and Navy. Interesting. Call me crazy but it just felt different when Golson was in there. I still blame Tommy. It makes me feel better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domer Dude Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 Tommy just needs to focus on the mechanics and decision making to become a bit more accurate. He will never be fleet of foot. He is smart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el senor domer Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 NO...it is the response when you get wound too tight in a discussion forum and go FULL RETARD!! Would that be like ROCK for Goonies.....hahaha ROCKY ROAD!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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