corysold 0 Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 I wasn't sure GAIII would show the toughness needed to be a lead back. Then He runs with authority vs OU and ASU and is rewarded by being passed by Cam? Does this make sense to anyone else? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VCDomer 75 Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 I wasn't sure GAIII would show the toughness needed to be a lead back. Then He runs with authority vs OU and ASU and is rewarded by being passed by Cam? Does this make sense to anyone else? Nothing regarding the use of our RBS or the running game scheme makes sense to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughes4Heisman 0 Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 I'm right with you man. I thought the play that killed him was the short third down play against ASU when he tried to bounce it outside instead of hitting the hole that was there. I still think he should be getting more reps because he had some very solid runs against USC......but Cam had the hot hand at that point but the 2nd half he didnt do anything and GAIII did have a good 2nd half. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OklahomaIrish 0 Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 Against ASU he was given the ball on 3rd and one because Cam was briefly injured. He danced and retreated costing us the first down that Cam would have made. It could have cost us dearly. Coaches trust Cam to do the right thing and protect the ball. Edited to show that I posted this at the same time as the above post. Great minds think alike, but I'm a Cam man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irishguy773 0 Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 I wasn't sure GAIII would show the toughness needed to be a lead back. Then He runs with authority vs OU and ASU and is rewarded by being passed by Cam? Does this make sense to anyone else? We don't have A lead back here. However, both Cam and George have been rewarded by dominating carries between them, while Amir and Tarean have lost their carries for the most part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el senor domer 0 Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 Nothing regarding the use of our RBS or the running game scheme makes sense to me. BAHAHAHAHA so very true!! all in all CAM is the much safer choice to be handling RB duties! IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VCDomer 75 Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 BAHAHAHAHA so very true!! all in all CAM is the much safer choice to be handling RB duties! IMO I admit that initially I thought using CAM was ridiculous. I have been pleasantly surprised by his effort and output so far. Besides... he's a hottie. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indyirishdad 0 Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 I admit that initially I thought using CAM was ridiculous. I have been pleasantly surprised by his effort and output so far. Besides... he's a hottie. lol Good post. Let's all be honest. Cam may not have the top end speed like GAIII and Amir but the kid is football fast. He hits the hole, runs low, and RARELY fumbles. At some point we just need to acknowledge he is not only the best option, but pretty damn good. He has the perfect ATTITUDE and HEART for the position. Simply put, the kid is nasty. I am still patiently waiting for some Cam love BI... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockets Revenge 0 Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 Good post. Let's all be honest. Cam may not have the top end speed like GAIII and Amir but the kid is football fast. He hits the hole, runs low, and RARELY fumbles. At some point we just need to acknowledge he is not only the best option, but pretty damn good. He has the perfect ATTITUDE and HEART for the position. Simply put, the kid is nasty. I am still patiently waiting for some Cam love BI... Yeah. let's all be honest. How many fumbles has Cam lost this year? GAIII? It is the ole risk vs reward argument. Cam appears to have less risk but GAIII has a much greater reward. Cam isn't runing away from anyone and isn't going to break one from >40 yards and take it to the house. Do you want the offense to be safe and methodical or explosive. You have to take a little risk for the bigger reward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indyirishdad 0 Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 Yeah. let's all be honest. How many fumbles has Cam lost this year? GAIII? It is the ole risk vs reward argument. Cam appears to have less risk but GAIII has a much greater reward. Cam isn't runing away from anyone and isn't going to break one from >40 yards and take it to the house. Do you want the offense to be safe and methodical or explosive. You have to take a little risk for the bigger reward. Yeah, I guess you missed the Arizona State game and his (2) long runs. Also, both RB's currently have (2) TD's. Where is the reward with George??? I don't have a problem with GAIII. I simply like Cam better. I like his tough running style and infectious attitude. The fact of the matter is Cam currently has 17 more carries than GAIII so I suppose we are safe to assume CBK agrees? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davislove 0 Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 I wasn't sure GAIII would show the toughness needed to be a lead back. Then He runs with authority vs OU and ASU and is rewarded by being passed by Cam? Does this make sense to anyone else? Cam Had a great first half against usc and then they go with GA to start the second half. I don't get it either. Reminds me of how right after cierre wood rushed for 190+ yards against purdue he was replaced by jonas gray as the top back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockets Revenge 0 Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 Yeah, I guess you missed the Arizona State game and his (2) long runs. Also, both RB's currently have (2) TD's. Where is the reward with George??? I don't have a problem with GAIII. I simply like Cam better. I like his tough running style and infectious attitude. The fact of the matter is Cam currently has 17 more carries than GAIII so I suppose we are safe to assume CBK agrees? Cam's long run against ASU was 29 yards. GAIII has an 80-yarder against OU. The reward with GAIII is the threat that he can break one everytime he touches the ball. Cam's 2 TD's were short punch-in's. Even though Cam has 17 more carries GAIII still has more yards and averages 5.7 ypc vs Cam 4.3 ypc. We don't know how many of Cam's carries were a result of Tommy changing the play when Cam happened to be in teh game. GAIII has more PT so we know what CBK really thinks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piratey 6 Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 We should start comparing Cam to Toby Gerhart because they are both white Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NDBadaBing 0 Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 There are very few bell cow's remaining in the running back world. The important take away from the USC game is Cam and George combined for 132 yards on 26 carries, and that is good production against a quality opponent. And had our QB situation not unfolded the way it did, I think it would have been even better because Tommy was forcing USC to honor the pass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nd1baby 0 Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 Reminds me of how right after cierre wood rushed for 190+ yards against purdue he was replaced by jonas gray as the top back. Well, now we can take the educated guess that he got caught with a "cigar" or at least a "cigarette". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piratey 6 Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 There are very few bell cow's remaining in the running back world. The important take away from the USC game is Cam and George combined for 132 yards on 26 carries, and that is good production against a quality opponent. And had our QB situation not unfolded the way it did, I think it would have been even better because Tommy was forcing USC to honor the pass Andrew Hendrix only had 2 fewer carries than GAIII. There are over a 100 players that average more attempts per carry than any on ND RB. (I can't check for sure but I bet the number is at 120-130 players) Every single time an Irish RB has seen ANY success whatsoever, it has been when they got extended action without being swapped. Kelly and Martin have handled this absolutely dreadfully, I don't care who they pick, pick someone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indyirishdad 0 Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 Cam's long run against ASU was 29 yards. GAIII has an 80-yarder against OU. The reward with GAIII is the threat that he can break one everytime he touches the ball. Cam's 2 TD's were short punch-in's. Even though Cam has 17 more carries GAIII still has more yards and averages 5.7 ypc vs Cam 4.3 ypc. We don't know how many of Cam's carries were a result of Tommy changing the play when Cam happened to be in teh game. GAIII has more PT so we know what CBK really thinks. Let's just agree to disagree. Nevertheless, I don't think either one of us would take anything away from either RB. They're both pretty darn good. Right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockets Revenge 0 Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 Let's just agree to disagree. Nevertheless, I don't think either one of us would take anything away from either RB. They're both pretty darn good. Right? Agreed. But I would still rather have GAIII in there for more carries each game. Especially if ND runs the hurry up offense they ran agaisnt USC. A tired defense just increases the chance of GAIII breaking one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indyirishdad 0 Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 Andrew Hendrix only had 2 fewer carries than GAIII. There are over a 100 players that average more attempts per carry than any on ND RB. (I can't check for sure but I bet the number is at 120-130 players) Every single time an Irish RB has seen ANY success whatsoever, it has been when they got extended action without being swapped. Kelly and Martin have handled this absolutely dreadfully, I don't care who they pick, pick someone. Are you stating the running game has been dreadful this year as well? What is the problem with utilizing multiple RB's if all of them have talent? This is an entirely different argument you are waging now. There are plenty of teams in CFB who do the same thing. Why do we need to give ALL the carries to one RB? There are multiple advantages to doing what COACH has done. I'm sure you would do a much better job than Brian, but let's talk about a few reasons WHY he is doing the right thing. 1. Use all the talent to keep fresh legs on the field. 2. Use all the talent to ensure all of them are ready to play if one goes down. 3. Use all the talent to give the defense different looks. I don't know. I think I understand where you guys are coming from too. If it's not broken don't fix it, and if a guy is in a rhythm, let him roll. Thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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